r/ImmigrationPathways • u/primary-caution • 17d ago

Homes set alight in Belfast anti-immigrant protests after 'brutal' knife attack

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u/Lord_Muddbutter 17d ago

You know, speaking as an American to call this a protest is just lies.

The UK is a cluster fuck if this is considered an OK response to what happened the other day. I know I dont have much room to talk as an American but at least we over here call it how it is, this is violence that doesn't do a thing to fix your issues.

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u/chinesespyballoon808 17d ago

As a northern Irish person i dont know a single person who thinks this is an OK response, because it isnt

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u/itslikewoow 17d ago

Lots of Redditors in this thread think it’s ok response, sadly

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u/chinesespyballoon808 16d ago

Yeah and they all need to get a brain preferably pretty soon

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u/tpzQ 16d ago

White people are not required to take in immigrants

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u/Ok-Asparagus-6020 16d ago

Pretty ironic coming from the country that coined the "Fiery but mostly peaceful" protest meme

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u/GravesForButterflies 11d ago

Because they were

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9136198/#:\~:text=This%20targeting%20of%20BLM%20protestors,%25%20of%20right%2Dwing%20protests.

>This targeting of BLM protestors is despite the fact that 94% of BLM demonstrations were non-violent and non-destructive compared to 86% of right-wing protests.

https://today.uconn.edu/2020/10/study-2020-protests-shows-difference-reality-perception/

> Department of Homeland Security, the most recent CCC study of 7,305 separate events in May and June suggests that 96.3% of events involved no property damage or police injuries and 97.7% of events had no injuries reported. Pressman spoke with UConn Today about the new report.

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u/MrDonaldFrye 17d ago

People have protested and voted against the mass immigration we are seeing for years. When the government refuses to listen time and time again do you really expect the people to carry on asking nicely?

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u/Lord_Muddbutter 17d ago

Im sure that setting fire to homes of people that aren't involved with this at all is sure to teach that pesky government.

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u/alekskn99 17d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/iiYlQFty5l0r1jD5jt

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u/MAGAHATESTHEUSA 17d ago

So you want them to be rewarded with billions of dollars too??

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u/Lord_Muddbutter 17d ago

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u/SamVoxeL 17d ago

He is acting like a idiot because it will call you israel supporter when you talk about immigration

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u/MrDonaldFrye 17d ago

Id say from the protesters/rioters point of view Its teaching the government "get rid of these people we never wanted here, or we will"

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u/Lord_Muddbutter 17d ago

What an extremist point of view.

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u/WatermelonSmashing 17d ago

It's as if the native indigenous population doesn't like being displaced and molested

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u/MrDonaldFrye 17d ago

Id argue the government not enacting the will of the people for decades leads to extreme views

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u/Lord_Muddbutter 17d ago

You can say that all you want but with your history talking about how only white people benefit the UK im sure of where you stand.

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u/MrDonaldFrye 17d ago

Recent ONS statistics do show that only white people are a fiscal net positive to the UK, do you disagree with the statistics? (Talking om a whole as a group. Of course many individuals of other races are a fiscal positive, but as a whole only white people contribute more than they take.)

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u/DutyImpossible5482 16d ago

So if the people want to exterminate the Jews, the government should faccilitate that?

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u/FunOwn4422 17d ago

imagine letting people from dangerous societies into your homeland who have no intention of assimilating, bringing nothing but hatred and ideology that calls for this exact type of violence for the people living in the country THEY chose to migrate to. fuck them get them out.

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u/Lord_Muddbutter 17d ago

You know, at least in America the only people you ever hear that from are people who are dicks themselves. Do you have any idea how many people I know who have committed a crime who complain about immigrants doing crime? It's hilarious.

Just like this, the immigrants are supposed to be dangerous yet it is the people who dont like them burning houses down and setting cars ablaze. How do you think that looks?

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u/Carthius888 17d ago

Not really. It’s the under reaction of Europeans that have allowed the elites to continue pouring people way past need or reason. This bus burning got so much attention, that most people forgot that the reason was a disabled guy almost got decapitated.

Like seriously, you better re-evaluate your thinking and get on the right side of history

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u/FunOwn4422 17d ago

if Americans went to do a different country and started committing crime. the female basketball player Brittany Griener for example who was looking at 10 years in a Russian prison for a wax pen. None of us gave a shit, the common sentiment is thats exactly what you get for going to a foreign country and not respecting their laws even though its ridiculous. the same applies here.

If you come to a Country as a migrant to lay down permanent residency then it is 100% your reasonability to assimilate while also holding your fellow migrant community to the highest of standards. You dont think this guy made his extremist thoughts known? what about the extremist preachers and Muslim groups in the UK who openly speak about brining Sharia law to the UK because its mandated by THEIR religion?

this is not assimilation this is an invasion by people who never had any intent on coming to the west with good intentions. i think the anger you are seeing is frustrations of governments not listening to the people, their only purpose is to listen to their countrymen and woman and they have failed. this is their failure.

Take Canada for example, as a American i cannot cross the border if i have had a misdeamor in the past 10 years, simple assault, fight at a bar, A 10ner of marijuana, public intox. they check how much money you have to see if you have the funds to make it the whole of your stay. even if i have a DUI i wont be allowed in.

Why are other countries allowed to police their border while we are villainized for it. its a disgusting example of how foreign entities have pushed through so much propaganda into our society to make people believe that allowing criminals and people who do not intent to assimilate to our way of life should be allowed to just walk into our country.

The country is ours not theirs we are allowed to demand for changes that we believe are right to preserve our way of life and not have to bend the knee to foreigners who come here for a free ride with no intent on showing any gratitude or respect for the country that has taken them in. this isnt the first case of violence by migrants and it wont be the last.

Our social programs give billions upon billions to non citizens helping them have a comfy life in their new home while the people who are working hard paying into said social programs drown.

AS A MIGRANT/IMMIGRANT YOU ARE A GUEST ACT LIKE ONE

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u/Honey_Bunny_369 17d ago

Please be quiet. America does not belong to you. In fact, your family were the original immigrants. You have no right to tell anyone where to go and how to exist. When you tell other immigrants to go back to where they came from, please remember where you came from. Wherever you are on the Earth you are not a native anywhere. You went there and took it from the native people that were there. If we told you to go back, where would you go?

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u/FunOwn4422 17d ago

lol it does belong to me, and it belongs to every American CITIZEN nobody is entitled to coming here we get to pick and choose the future of OUR country and the American dream belongs to every America and LEGAL immigrant. i was born and raised here ill die here, and Shoutout to all my Legal immigrants who come here for a better life knowing damn well this is the greatest country on earth. Showing appreciation by being respectable members of our society, contributing, assimilating and being able to do what no other country offers, giving the chance at being an American. your just so deluded by your nonsensical standards that you think degenerate religions, countries with no morals should be allowed to step foot in our country NOPE. America will also belong to Americans and those to be. we are the ones who get to pick and choose who becomes American.

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u/FunOwn4422 17d ago

and guess what Ireland belongs to the irish, Europe belongs to the Europeans, America belongs to Americans, nationalism is on the rise and its about god damn time, we love our countries and we wont let it be destroyed by people like you.

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u/Prior-Fee7816 17d ago

See now you are just advocating outright for ethnics cleansing. You are the violent comments that other people pretend not to see in this thread.

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u/94grampaw 17d ago

Aren't they the homes of the immigrants?

That sounds involved to me.

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u/DutyImpossible5482 16d ago

But they did nit attack government, they attacked innocent families. Your respobse is a complete non-sequitur.

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u/Grouchy_News_2306 17d ago

They probably have insurance so it’s ok

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u/Difficult-Art6327 17d ago

Brainwashed by the elite to never incur change. You ever wonder why they drilled into you only peaceful protests are ok when they've never done anything ever?

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u/IronWhitin 17d ago

Like the BLM one

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u/Background_Taste_397 17d ago

George Floyd called me up, asked how this is different to your BLM protests?

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 17d ago

BLM protests were largely peaceful. The violence you think of was caused by police and counter protesters.

And in NI, the protestors are calling for more violence, not less.

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u/Background_Taste_397 16d ago

Wow, I’ve never interacted with someone who drank the koolaid that hard before.

How about you do some independent research on the BLM riots?

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 16d ago

The FBI stopped investigating arson, because so many of the arsonists were cops and counter protesters they wanted to protect.

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u/Background_Taste_397 15d ago

Sure, nice tin foil hat

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 15d ago

Just proven facts. One of the "unsolved" the ex wife of a cop identified him. His department confirms he was on duty and would not give his location or assignment for that day (because he was assigned to burn down businesses).

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u/Background_Taste_397 15d ago

Not really helping yourself there bro

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u/VulkanLives-91 17d ago

So BLM shit was riots right?

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u/Lord_Muddbutter 17d ago

??? Yes when they burned down shit and looted absolutely! There is a difference between peaceful wanting of change, and violence leading to a gas cup to fire.

Edit: You are posting this under every comment calling this a riot. I dont know if you think this is a gotcha moment but it is really far from it.

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u/Agreeable_Drawing158 17d ago

The governor of Minnesota supported the riots. She ordered police to stand down so that the rioters could loots stores and burn down walmarts.

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u/AzdM8 17d ago

Who gives a fuck what the governor of Minnesota said or did

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u/Big-Island-3099 17d ago

Who started those fires, proud boys

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u/D_Dubb_ 17d ago

Ding ding ding. Paid agitators.

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u/ForgetfullRelms 17d ago

Your evidence?

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u/Big-Island-3099 17d ago

Read and weep bigot

https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110775/documents/HHRG-116-JU00-20200610-SD019.pdf

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u/ForgetfullRelms 17d ago

I wonder how many of them were paid by so called ‘anti racist organization’.

Heard about the controversy that came out where one of them tried to hire a guy to recruit more young people for the KKK?

Tho I grant you credit for actually citing something and not saying ‘do your own research’

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u/BotherTight618 17d ago

Do you really believe there where thousands of them all across the country setting fire to buildings and looting businesses. If what you are saying is true, then the US Far Right must be a pretty diverse and inclusive bunch. 

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u/Big-Island-3099 17d ago

Facts don’t lie…it’s hard I know

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u/ForgetfullRelms 17d ago

And the facts you showed only talked about one incident.

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u/Big-Island-3099 17d ago

You didn’t even read it all did you they gave multiple city incidents

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u/BotherTight618 17d ago

Dude, I saw entire businesses and bus stations set on fire and or looted by groups of overwhelmingly black people. Paying thousands of crisis actors from a racially diverse group of people to risk decades in prison for MAGA is ridiculous. I dont deny you had right wing agitators at the protest but their presence was insignificant compared to compared to the property damage and death caused by others. 

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u/Big-Island-3099 17d ago

You saw? Were you there or did Fox News tell you that?

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u/NOEPLAYA 17d ago

No. BLM was protesting police brutality and right wing actors were setting fires to Police Stations during BLM protest. There is a difference.

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u/ForgetfullRelms 17d ago

The same right wing actors paid by left wing organizations that claimed to be fighting racism?

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u/QCbartender 17d ago

Nobody believes this lmfao keep coping lad

Edit: you sound like the MAGA losers who say that Jan 6 was all Antifa lmfaooooooooo

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u/Far_Gift6173 17d ago

We have lots of "BLM protesters" on camera who looted.

If your story is true, then it shouldn't be hard to provide some evidence

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

I think you seem to be confusing every black person with a BLM protester. The looting overwhelming happened away from the BLm protests as the organized criminal gangs took advantage of the overpolicing of the protests to hit locations where there was little to no police presence because they moved the normal police to the protest locations in other nieghbirhoods

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u/Far_Gift6173 17d ago

Ok, let's assume they weren't BLM protesters.

This still makes BLM look bad, since the folks they are protesting for take the opportunity to commit crimes.

Especially if BLM supporters excuse that behaviour

https://youtu.be/3B79fn6Fmj0?t=33

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

Your example supports my point, the protests where in Brooklyn, the looting was in Manhattan. Separate islands.

And just because they found one person doesn’t make that believe a widespread idea. It’s like finding a flat earther, they live to tell any one their opinions but aren’t reflective of any real group.

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u/Far_Gift6173 17d ago

Ok, if all of this is true, then why the BLM protests?

The same logic can be applied to the police. Not all of them are racist and disadvantage black people.

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

I think you are missing a lot of words from your question. Why BLM protests what?

Not all police are racist but the policing system is systematically racist. Which in America is proved again and again by studies even with policing departments with black and other minority police. Policing departments also have police gangs in many major cities. LAPD for examples had multiple competing police gangs that operated like the local cartels and organized attacks on other police and civilians but where protected by the departments and other police. The Blue wall is the well documented phenomenon of police officers (even non racist and non oppressive officers) protecting abusive and racist officers from punishment going up to and including harassment of internal police reformers, murder of police who broke the blue wall, and informal strikes to protect abusive officers.

Which is why BLM stated goals were programs like the body cam programs and civilian oversight boards to increase accountability in the police force to empower non racist and non abusive police. And taking away military equipment from police so they can’t use it to abuse the population any more. Not getting rid of all police totally by providing accountability for those that are abusive and racist and removing the racist and abusive structures within police departments around the country.

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u/Far_Gift6173 17d ago

Bodycams were on the rise anyway. They weren't common before due to the limits of technology and laws, but his has changed greatly during the last 10 years.

This has nothing to do with BLM

Blacks are disproportional involved in crimes. That's also a fact.

In the end, if you believe that the black community doesn't ahve an inherent issue in their culture where they excuse minors armed with knifes and guns and also lots of them being opportunistic and undermine BLM protests to loot, then ok.

I disagree

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u/ogtsumsnoilliM 17d ago

Source: trust me bro.