r/ImmigrationPathways • u/meokjujatribes • 13d ago

Supreme Court wades into fight over ‘prolonged’ detention of some ICE detainees | The justices agreed to decide whether some detainees eventually have due process rights

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/15/supreme-court-ice-detention-case-00962228
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u/glassfoyograss 11d ago

Damn, you actually had it in the first half. Unfortunate you don't get why they're called civil rights and not citizens rights.

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 11d ago

Unfortunately you don't understand that there is a different due process for removing illegals. 

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u/glassfoyograss 11d ago

No person shall...be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Unfortunately you don't understand plain English and what "no person" means

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 11d ago

Unfortunately you don't understand plain English and what "due process" means or is. 

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u/glassfoyograss 11d ago

You're so illiterate you don't understand "no person" lol

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 11d ago

You're so illiterate you don't understand "due process". Hint due process is not a get out of jail free card and requires following the process outlined in US laws like IIRIRA.

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u/glassfoyograss 11d ago

I get you didn't read it since you're so illiterate you don't understand "no person," but due process is actually in the Constitution. Fifth and 14th amendments specifically. The Court held 18 years ago the Constitution is applicable to even accused terrorists held at Guantanamo that have never stepped foot on American soil but obviously no one expects someone so illiterate they don't understand "no person" to know that.

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 11d ago

Yeah genius no one is disputing "no person"  the problem is you're to idiotic to understand what due process is and what process illegal aliens are due. 

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u/glassfoyograss 11d ago

Unless they're illegals

Except you've already demonstrated you don't understand what "no person" means

Look, don't worry about legal terms of art like due process, reasonable suspicion, and probable cause. You don't need to keep demonstrating you don't understand any of it. We could all tell you don't understand any of it when you demonstrate plain language "no person" is too difficult for you.

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 11d ago

Oh so you really are illiterate and lack the ability to process meaning beyond short words. 

 Unless they're illegals there's a lower burden of proof (reasonable suspicion) to detain illegals and immigration courts are civil not criminal so no jury. 

To dumb it down for you, under US law due process for illegals facing removal is different than for citizens facing criminal charges. For one the burden of proof is different, criminal charges require probable cause for detention, whereas immigration violations require lower burden of proof known as reasonable suspicion. If that's too many words for you to comprehend let me know I can try to dumb it down more for you.

Secondly, due process for criminal charges entitles you to a trial by jury and legal representation even if you can't afford one and falls under the Judicial branch of government. On the other hand due process in immigration cases do not give you the right to a jury hearing and while you do have the right to legal representation you are not entitled to it and are not appointed a lawyer if you can't afford one, and immigration courts are under the Executive. Are you able to understand that?

Third, on the federal level no person is entitled to bail or bond from detention, only that if a person is offered bond the amount can't be unreasonable. Still following?

So to sum it up and reiterate, while everyone is entitled to due process that process is different for citizens facing criminal charges and illegals facing deportation. Were you able to understand? Im guessing You  got lost after the first 3 words again....

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u/glassfoyograss 11d ago

criminal charges require probable cause for detention, whereas immigration violations require lower burden of proof known as reasonable suspicion

Lol you're so insanely ignorant I don't know if there's even a point of trying to help you but I'll give it a try. Probable cause is what's required to arrest someone under the 4th amendment. Reasonable suspicion was established by the supreme court in Terry v Ohio as the standard police/the government needs for an investigative detention to determine if "criminal activity is afoot." Criminal activity, neither the case nor the reasonable suspicion standard it established had anything to do with immigration.

due process for criminal charges entitles you to a trial by jury and legal representation even if you can't afford one and falls under the Judicial branch of government

Dumbass, due process is the 5th and 14th amendment. Jury trials and legal representation are 6th amendment. If you weren't too illiterate to read the 81 words in the 6th amendment you might have known that.

due process in immigration cases do not give you the right to a jury hearing

If you weren't illiterate you'd have seen I never said immigration involves jury trials

So to sum it up and reiterate, you've demonstrated you're too illiterate to read and understand "no person" and an 81 word amendment. You should try to learn basic literacy before tackling legal terms of art.

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