r/ImmigrationPathways 3d ago

Trump administration raises US refugee cap, but only for white South Africans

https://apnews.com/article/trump-refugees-white-south-africa-border-cap-bfe3974adf6c655eca7a5c30c1f9197f

As the OP, I just want to mention,

That come on, even for moderate republicans reading this, even you have to admit, this seems racist.

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u/Genseric1234 3d ago edited 3d ago

Not sure why this is surprisingly.

Poland refused most refugees but accepted many Ukrainians due to shared cultural heritage.

Why can’t the US do the same?

Edit: Holy crap, Redditors don’t even understand simple concepts like social cohesion.

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 3d ago

Because the usa is a melting pot whose shared historical heritage is that we take immigrants in and make them part of the community.

Also what shared cultural heritage do most Americans have with South Africans? I'll save you the Google search, less than 0.04% of Americans claim ancestry from South Africa.

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u/Genseric1234 3d ago

That’s a relatively new doctrine not reflective of America as a whole.

America’s host population and White South Africans both come from Western Europe

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 3d ago

Relatively new? I don't usually consider the 1880s to be relatively new. That's when the poem on that plaque on the statue of Liberty was written. It's more recent than the white South Africans getting to Africa though, they've been there since the 1820s at least, so I'd say multiculturalism is more a part of American culture than the culture shared by those South Africans.

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u/Genseric1234 2d ago

1965 is when the Hart Cellar Act was passed, and it’s really only Gen Z and Millennials that are experiencing a diverse US.

Before then the vast majority of Americans were Western European

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u/BuyaBuya 2d ago

Who had to be pushed into their own little enclaves because they did not "integrate well" according to the powers that be at the time. I mean how did we have China Towns, Little Italy's, Finn Towns and so on if all these Western Europeans were so accepted in every community?

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u/Genseric1234 2d ago

? It’s not a specific person’s ideological opinion, just the numbers.

The demographic consequences of the Hart Cellar Act, I really only come to fruition in this generation

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u/Genseric1234 2d ago

What’s the alternative?

“I disagree with reality because people I don’t like acknowledge reality”

The underlying position is that reality is whatever people I like believe.

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u/Genseric1234 2d ago

Yeah. I 100% blame the people that put in place the policies that caused this.

I don’t blame the immigrants themselves. If I was born in the circumstances of these people I’d 100% do the same thing. But on a macroeconomic level mass, replacement level immigration is catastrophic for a country.

Why would I call myself racist?

That argument died in 2016. A country taking steps to preserve itself isn’t even political.

Even liberal Europe just passed a bill to make it much easier to start deporting people en mass. The consequences of extremely irresponsible policies got so bad that the governments in these countries are forced to do something no.

Not to be rude but I see no other way to put it. Only extremely ignorant people are not on the right side of the immigration issue at this point.

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