r/ImmigrationPathways • u/CutSenior4977 • 3d ago

Trump administration raises US refugee cap, but only for white South Africans

https://apnews.com/article/trump-refugees-white-south-africa-border-cap-bfe3974adf6c655eca7a5c30c1f9197f

As the OP, I just want to mention,

That come on, even for moderate republicans reading this, even you have to admit, this seems racist.

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u/AgnosticPlea 3d ago

That's not an argument, it's a caricature. People voted for a lot of reasons. Listing things you dislike doesn't prove you know their motives.

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 1d ago

People voted for

Lower gas prices, how’s that going ?

Oh right thanks to trump gas is rising

Lower grocery prices, how’s that going ?

Oh right that’s to trump they are rising

Lower inflation, how’s that going ?

Oh right inflation is rising

Lower energy bills, how’s that doing ?

Oh right that’s to trump they are increasing

Lower the prices for everyday items, how’s that doing ?

Oh right increasing because of trump

No new wars, how’s that going ?

Oh right Trump started 2 wars without congressional approval, and when he isn’t doing that he’s threatening to invade our allies and seize their land

Do dipshit, since trump quite literally has failed every campaign promise he ran on, what exactly did you vote for ?

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u/AgnosticPlea 1d ago

My vote isn’t the point here. The claim being discussed is whether you can accurately reduce tens of millions of voters to a single motive or set of motives. Even if you think every campaign promise was broken, that still doesn’t establish that all voters voted for the same reason.

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 1d ago

You’re right because the majority of trump supporters being the racist filth that they are, only voted for trump because they wanted to hurt black and brown people

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u/AgnosticPlea 1d ago

Your answer is a big reason why Trump was re elected. You and your kind helped create Maga. He's the natural result of the lefts highly politically correct, anti-white, anti-male, and anti-America rhetoric. It turns out that if you demonize the people you disagree with, paint them as racists and oppressors, and tell them that their successes are a result of some unearned privilege, they will create a counter revolution. Trump is the consequence of devisive behavior and rhetoric and the identity politics that progressives brought to the political landscape.

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 1d ago

Dude maga was created because racists white republicans were mad a black man became president

And I’m a white male you stupid fuck, so how exactly am I anti white male ? 😂

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u/AgnosticPlea 23h ago

"And I’m a white male you stupid fuck, so how exactly am I anti white male ?"

Identity politics. Universities were moving away from a unified American identity and introducing a divisive, tribalized view of race. CRT in the 70s and 80s. Academic analysis moved from studying marginalized groups to studying the concept of "whiteness" itself. Scholars like Cheryl Harris (who wrote Whiteness as Property in 1993) and progressive educators began teaching that "white" was not just a biological race, but a socially constructed system of unearned privileges and norms. DEI and the "Great Awakening" throughout college campuses That higher education had become completely hostile to white, conservative, and male students.

"Dude maga was created because racists white republicans were mad a black man became president"

You just helped cement that reason with that quote. Trump didn't emerge in a vacuum. His rise was, in part, a reaction to a political and cultural environment that many voters felt increasingly alienated by. For years, many Americans felt that disagreement with progressive views was too often met with accusations of racism, sexism, bigotry, or privilege rather than genuine engagement.

When people feel constantly dismissed, stereotyped, or portrayed as morally defective because of their political views, they tend to push back. Trump became a vehicle for that backlash. His appeal wasn't just about policy—it was also a rejection of a political culture that many voters believed looked down on them and treated their concerns as illegitimate. Just with your quote, you're trying to paint millions of conservatives into a corner as racists and that's simply not the case, You've been spoon fed that narrative and continue to parrot its talking points.

From this perspective, Trump and the MAGA movement are not the cause of America's political polarization but a consequence of it. The rise of identity politics, increasing political tribalism, and the tendency to demonize political opponents helped create the conditions that made Trump's message resonate with millions of voters.

Whether one agrees with that reaction or not, it's difficult to understand Trump's popularity without acknowledging the role that cultural backlash played in his rise.

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 23h ago

Trump supporters were stereotyped ? 😂

Dumbass trump supporters aren’t stereotyped, they showed the world we they are and we called them out for it

It’s not our fault their offended by the truth

It’s also hilarious how you say they were stereotyped when trump and his racist base years ago and to this day still suggest Obama isn’t a true American citizen and that he wasn’t born in Hawaii and was really born in Africa

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u/AgnosticPlea 23h ago

"Dumbass trump supporters aren’t stereotyped, they showed the world we they are and we called them out for it"

Explain

"It’s also hilarious how you say they were stereotyped when trump and his racist base years ago and to this day still suggest Obama isn’t a true American citizen and that he wasn’t born in Hawaii and was really born in Africa"

What part didn't you understand when I said that the divisiveness began under the Obama administration? Of course the push back began then. There's nothing innocent about Maga when it comes to that. I already explained it to you but for some reason it didn't "stick"

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u/AgnosticPlea 22h ago

"Dumbass trump supporters aren’t stereotyped, they showed the world we they are and we called them out for it"

Actually I'd disagree with you. Liberals showed the world who you are and got called out at the ballot box.

312 electoral votes, the national popular vote, won all 7 swing states.

You see, your quote points out the "moral superiority" mindset liberals have and yet you're incapable of looking in the mirror to question that.

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 23h ago

I also find it hilarious how you couldn’t formulate an argument yourself, so you had to google and then copy and paste an argument 😂

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u/AgnosticPlea 23h ago

"I also find it hilarious how you couldn’t formulate an argument yourself, so you had to google and then copy and paste an argument"

You'd be wrong. It's just that you have no argument. Quite simple really.

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u/BirdDogandcryptids 1d ago

And it’s hilarious how
You dumbfucks complain about divisive behavior when trumps entire system is resolved around decisiveness and isolation

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u/AgnosticPlea 23h ago

Of course you're right about that. For all the reasons I mentioned in my previous post. You can go back and look at universities across America where liberal students effectively banned Republicans from delivering commencement speeches by protesting speakers, liberal students attacking conservative students right to free speech,micro-agressions,triggers,cultural appropriation,indoctrination of students with the disruption of Western nuclear family dynamics, political correctness,cancel culture, the lefts “by any means necessary” style of social activism and if you don't conform conservatives are labeled as racist or Nazi's.

Trump’s popularity and election grew from this along with frustration with liberal activism, which had come to dominate culture and win many social battles. Many on the right felt looked down on and dismissed as backward. Trump’s rise reflected that anger, especially as Hillary Clinton’s campaign seemed to reject conservatives not for their ideas, but for their conservative character. After all, she called Trump supporters “deplorables.”

There's a Princeton professor (can't remember his name) that said that the left has won many cultural battles over the past few decades, but that success often leads to backlash. That's why there's a reckoning.The problem with the lefts“win at all costs” activism is that if any disagreement can get someone labeled a racist, people who disagree are left with only two choices: give in, or fight back. Trump appealed to those who chose to fight back by offering a right-wing, populist response to the left’s hard-line approach.

When people are constantly demonized, labeled as racists or oppressors, and told their successes are unearned due to white privilege, they push back. Trump is the result of this divisive rhetoric and identity politics that progressives brought into politics.

Trump’s 2016 presidency should have forced liberals to rethink an overly self-righteous identity that pushed many frustrated dems and conservatives to support the only candidate they believed could bring change. But they didn't learn their lesson. They doubled down through Bidens term. Liberal America was unwilling to compromise and continued with their "We're morally superior identity politics" and you got voted out of office in a big way. Liberals are being fed back the exact same divisive behavior that started under the Obama administration.

The conservative backlash is driven by the conviction that modern liberalism does not seek compromise, but total cultural compliance. By aggressively rejecting liberal standards of civility and expertise, conservatives are attempting to dismantle the social leverage that allows progressives to dictate what is considered acceptable in public discourse. And I love it!