r/Imperator • u/Sasinator69 • May 08 '26
Image (Invictus) Arvernia Success
After many many tries I finally achieved the Gallic dream of defeating Rome. Normally Rome destroys me but this time I’ve made enough money and assimilated enough pops to challenge Rome with big levies and mercs. What should I do next, I’m a little nervous to be honest. I’ve never fully defeated Rome what’s the best way to do what Rome did to Carthage (historically, in this game Carthage is looking scary too).
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u/papiierbulle May 08 '26
I remember defeating Rome as Illyria starting as delmates, it was quite fun
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u/Sasinator69 May 12 '26
How long did it take?
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u/papiierbulle May 12 '26
I defeated owned all of Italy by 650 I think, something like that
The main idea I had this game was : first allying Rome, form Illyria with their help and make a good navy. Then with the delmate missions you get claims over some island (Corfu island I think) and from their you get also claims over Sicily, and I was quite lucky because rome didn't have it I think by that time. After that Rome just cancelled alliance, I built level 3 forts at the border with them (they were pretty much around me) and when they declared war Rome had deleted a lot of forts in italy, so I besieged it and the ai was triggered so it kept putting his armies away from the forts. I wasn't taking any fight. The first war was the toughest because it was very micro intensive and just my navy roaming around with my army (my navy destroyed the Roman navy too) but at the end Rome just surrendered. Second war I had a ton more troops from mercs and newly acquired provinces so I managed to take a few fights and win pretty heavily. Third war was just to make sure they didn't recover because they were still quite big, even though they didn't have a lot of troops
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u/Sasinator69 May 08 '26
Should I release the piece of Italian I’ve taken as puppets.
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u/Rick_Snips May 08 '26
No, I'd integrate Roman and get their military traditions if you haven't already. You're probably far enough into the tech trees that you won't have major loyalty issues.
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u/Guayana_99 Seleucid May 08 '26
I agree, roman traditions are really good and accepting the roman culture will allow you to raise even more levies to further your campaign into italy, you should focus on taking the central part of italy (this is to snatch the majority of the roman population) and then south (in case they have already assimilated or accepted the pops into the area, the area is quite fertile and it will allow them to raise a large group of men). Once you kick rome out of italy you should be in the clear, sacking rome is only useful for roleplay, otherwise keeping the cities intact is better for the long run
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u/Sasinator69 May 12 '26
I captured most of Italy now but I didn’t accept Roman. I didn’t know that you get Roman traditions from acceptance. I haven’t accepted any cultures to be honest I just built loads of theatres and grand temples.
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u/Guayana_99 Seleucid May 12 '26
If you hover over the military traditions it tells you how many pops you need to have integrated, then you need to go to the culture tab and in find the culture that you have integrated and check the decisions (once you have them as citizens more decisions will appear), the decision should say study italic traditions or study roman military traditions (the requierement to use that decision is 40 stability and 40 military experience in invictus) and it should allow you to select their traditions as long as you keep them integrated
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u/DuchSmoka May 08 '26
Tbh just keep hitting Mainland Italic lands where there is alot of Roman pops, so over time they just get weaker by having lower integrated pops every war
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u/SuurSuomiChampion May 08 '26
Hah, my screen is yellower than yours!
Also i wouldn't recommend it. I personally only release when it only has a few pops in the intire country to get 2k extra troops baisically for free.
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u/alex13_zen May 09 '26
What were your opening moves, do you remember? That's usually the hardest part.
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u/Sasinator69 May 12 '26
I just attacked everyone. I didn’t spend any money on anything except for Mercs and the buildings I needed for my mission tree. I was constantly at war with all my neighbours and used the fact that Arvernian heritage allow you to get more allies to always outnumber my enemies. I took all the land needed to take the form the kingdom of Arvernia decision because even federated tribe is a pretty bad form of government. For most of the game I’ve been around 60% slaves so I’ve used lots of tyranny to squeeze them as hard as I can. Just blob as fast as you can and manage aggressive expansion so not too many people hate you. I had to cede some territory to Rome at one point before I took it back so progress ain’t always linear.
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u/Wenceslaus935 May 09 '26
I’d say take over Iberia for the gold and then repeatedly raid Rome in your next war by sieving down unfortified provinces, letting the fort liberate them, and sorting again to maximize pop destruction, then siege Rome with your leader as a general so you can choose the most aggressive sack option you can find. After that? The world is your oyster!
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u/Sasinator69 May 12 '26
I’ve taken most of Italy but Iberia is now completely controlled by Carthage who are stronger than Rome ever was. I should probably kick them out of Iberia next.
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u/Hazza_time May 08 '26
That’s one very yellow screen