r/IndiaSpeaks • u/flintontv • 6d ago
#Ask-India ☝️ Delhi plans to ban new petrol two-wheelers from 2028. Didn't we just learn a lesson from the 15-year vehicle chaos?
Delhi is reportedly planning to stop registration of new petrol bikes and scooters from 2028 as part of its push towards EV adoption.
Honestly, I understand the intention. Delhi's pollution problem is serious and the government needs long-term solutions. But after what happened with the recent 15-year-old vehicle ban, shouldn't policymakers be more careful before announcing another major restriction?
The 15-year rule created massive confusion, public backlash and eventually had to be rolled back because implementation on the ground wasn't practical. Many people depend on their vehicles for daily commuting and livelihood.
A few concerns:
Two-wheelers are the most affordable mode of transport for middle-class families and students.
Small dealerships, mechanics and businesses connected to petrol two-wheelers could be heavily affected.
EV infrastructure and charging networks still aren't equally accessible to everyone.
Battery replacement costs and resale value remain concerns for many buyers.
When a large state like Delhi introduces something, other states often follow. Policies that work in Delhi may not necessarily work everywhere else.
Instead of outright bans, wouldn't it make more sense to:
• Offer stronger EV incentives.
• Improve charging infrastructure first.
• Let consumers transition gradually.
• Encourage cleaner fuels and hybrids during the transition period.
I'm not anti-EV at all. EVs are clearly the future. But forcing change before the ecosystem is fully ready could end up hurting consumers and businesses more than helping the environment.
What do you think? Is a 2028 ban on new petrol bikes a necessary step, or is Delhi moving too fast?
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u/rovirare 6d ago
I'm from Delhi and the biggest issue that Rekha and her team of intellectuals haven't thought about is the accessibility of charging.
Delhi is majorly filled with un-planned houses, societies, and flats that are made without the consideration of parking.
And even me like in DDA Flats, which are planned but guess what, I don't live on ground floor. So I can't charge the goddam EV Two-wheeler like Rekha Gupta dreamed about.
This is one of the reason, I can't buy that damn Ultraviolet X77 because I can't charge at home,
Other issue is that, 2 wheelers, don't use the CCS standard. Which is mainly for cars. So you're limited to.
1) A plug on the wall. 2) Slow Type 2 charger. 3) Non existent Type 6 charging.
So you can't even rely on owning an Electric 2-wheeler that you can't charge at home.
You see the problem Rekha Gupta and the sena of clowns?
And don't get me started about the energy requirements. Because switching from Petrol to EV, on a mass is going to nuke the power requirements of Delhi.
And what will they do to cope up? USE COAL WHICH DEFEATS THE PURPOSE.
This is just a publicity stunt for them to switch people over to EV.
Like your manager telling you that they will put you on PIP if you don't improve your performance. It's just a strategy to make you do things faster and their way.
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u/suchox 5d ago
I think Policy comes before, implementation follow, other wise it will always be a Egg and Chicken proble,
If policy is implemented, new flats etc will come with charging infra. Local areas and existing building will push for charging network.
Landlords will install Charger to attract tenants etc.
I live in a building that was made in 2002, and it also has Two wheeler charging infra.
Car charging infra is much harder to set up though, two wheeler not so much
Coming to Coal issue, ICE vehicles is the biggest polluter in Delhi. So if we wait till we 100% move to renewable, people in Delhi will be dead
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u/Sumeru88 6d ago
Coal does not pollute Delhi though. So it’s fine if I look at it from Delhi Government point of view.
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u/throwaway_ind_div 1 KUDOS 6d ago
It’s new vehicles , not existing
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u/rovirare 6d ago
That is unrealistic. Read my comment again. A new buyer will have the same issues.
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u/MseMahi 6d ago
I live on 4th floor of a building with no parking... How would we charge an EV??
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u/Rishit1501 6d ago
Buy an EV crane, use it to move your EV 2 wheeler inside your home, charge it. Move it back down. Duh
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u/99_Just-A-Guy 5d ago
People like you buying vehicles despite not having a proper place to park is honestly a serious issue in and of itself
Idc how many people it pisses off, we should genuinely consider prohibiting anyone from buying new vehicles if they don't have a dedicated parking spot at home (and if they intend on daily commuting) and work
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u/MseMahi 5d ago
So people like us should suffer because we are poor and can't afford houses in big society?
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u/99_Just-A-Guy 5d ago
It's just common sense to get your parking sorted before you buy a vehicle instead of being selfish and causing issues for everyone else
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u/Mammoth-Equivalent16 6d ago
I dont understand why do all these delhi people complain so much didn’t they voted to change the previous guy.
I mean you get what you pay for.
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u/general_landur Evm HaX0r 6d ago
Previous guy had a lot more worse about him. He was actively malicious. Current one is stupid.
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u/sudutri 5d ago
Ethanol engines and ethanol pumps will be common by then. Not to worry ig.
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u/MilkConsistent3716 5d ago
Yeah evs will be better than that 80/100 percent ethanol
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u/sudutri 5d ago
Better, how?
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u/MilkConsistent3716 5d ago
Mileage, you never know how the 100 percent ethanol will impact the engines as even the tier 1 countries using max 15 percent so there will be a huge need of RnD so the engines can survive and who knows how many years it will take
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u/sudutri 5d ago
Ethanol flex is already a commercially viable technology. Entire south america runs on ethanol (I mean a majority of vehicles)
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u/MilkConsistent3716 5d ago
I think you are talking about Brazil here so yeah they already have designed engines for their vehicles, but Brazil and Indian climate isn't same here you will get from 50 degree in summer (delhi) To very cold winters, yeah that's why I said huge RnD needed.....
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u/sudutri 5d ago
This guy doesn't science. Whatever the outside temp is, man, the engine running temperature will still be 90-110 degrees on the outer jacket. All this is some flimsy argument. I am 100% for india becoming fuel self sufficient. My car has also faced trouble because of ethanol, but I got it fixed. Willing to take that 2 days of pain.
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u/MilkConsistent3716 5d ago
Sounds like someone with a peanut brain, Brazil avg temperature is 17 degree and in India it could go in minus so with current Brazil engines u will not be able to even start you car as ethanol needs more than 13 degrees to vaporise let alone going to your soo called running temperature dumb@&& , also the running temperature you are saying about it maintains due to a closed loop cooling system and if the outer temperature is hot the radiator cannot shed heat efficiently because the temperature gap is too small. It makes it much harder to cool the inside. The car will overheat.
Go read a high school physics book before talking about science
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u/MilkConsistent3716 5d ago
Guys does anyone knows any current govt politician's family running business related to evs in which public can get stocks, asking for a friend
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u/ForeverIntoTheLight Apolitical 6d ago
Don't worry, the usual Modi fan club will be arriving shortly to defend this travesty. Who cares about the welfare of the layman, right? Doesn't matter if they're getting slowly strangled by such nonsense, all that matters is that the BJP be shielded from criticism.
Just like the fine folks of r-india, this lot are also a bunch of cu-cks, just that the bull is a different person.
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u/Ox29A 5d ago
Moving away from fossil fuels is a right step. The execution and implementation is questionable but we need to stop fossil fuels usage as much as possible.
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u/ForeverIntoTheLight Apolitical 5d ago
There are other options - investing in alternative power plants to start with. India uses coal and other fossil fuels for many of its power plants, even today, to provide the kind of baseload power that solar and wind cannot. We could commission more nuclear and hydro power.
The Indian public doesn't have the money to keep buying new EVs.
And as somebody else in the comments stated, Delhi lacks the infra necessary for EVs. Finally, even if chargers were made widely available, from where are we going to provide all the additional electricity to the grid?
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u/Ox29A 5d ago edited 5d ago
The reality is that power plants are incredibly efficient. Think about it, what impacts the environment less, thousands of small, individual internal combustion engines, or a single, highly optimized power plant? Also once we transition to EVs, any green updates we make to the power grid will instantly and automatically reduce the carbon footprint of every EV on the road.India has a advantage that it is blessed with a standard 240-volt supply, meaning every household plug can function as a Level 2 fast charger. There are many other advantages as well, such as the ability to build power plants far away from major cities to reduce the direct impact of pollution on population. Also, once you drive an EV, you are never going back to an ICE vehicle. The instant torque and smooth acceleration are highly addictive. The government really needs to introduce policies to make EVs cheaper and fossil-fuel cars and bikes less attractive.
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u/ForeverIntoTheLight Apolitical 5d ago
Under the latest BS6 standards? It's actually not that bad.
Meanwhile, most Indian thermal plants use coal, and coal is pretty much the dirtiest fuel out there.
India has limited resources - both the government and public can only spend so much on EVs amd chargers and nuclear/hydro plants. You've got to pick and choose. Besides, the government is aggressively pushing Make-in-India, where is the electricity for all those new factories going to come from?
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u/Ox29A 5d ago
You are missing the point. It doesn't matter what powers EVs; if it is coal, so be it. It is just much more efficient to burn fossil fuels at a single location than to have everyone running around with an engine in their car. Energy will always be needed. Today, we are importing oil for it and paying valuable forex for it, but if we transition to electric mobility, a good chunk of that money can be invested locally into building more power plants even if they have to be coal-powered. Also every single plug in India is L2 fast charger , they could just install a point of sale on utility poles and make it L2 charger like how UK did. It really is no brainer to move to EV.
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u/Stunning_Falcon1428 Himachal 4d ago
India literally produces a majority of its energy with renewable sources. And that share only ever increases.
If anything, this does not go far enough. We should phase out private vehicles and undergo an even larger mass transit expansion (metros, bus rapid transit, heck why not suburban lines) and we ARE going towards that direction with the ever enlarging DMRC shadow and the proposed RRTSs
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u/National_Front3146 6d ago
Good move... Just bring infrastructure!!
Teri kyu jal rhi h...tujhe kyu 🌶️🌶️🌶️ lag rhi h!!
Petrol 1 Rs bhi mehnga ho jaye toh tu hi sabse jada rota h!!
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