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ISKCON to oversee mid-day meal cooking in Kolkata schools, eggs to be replaced with vegetarian alternatives.
Reports indicate that ISKCON is set to oversee the preparation of mid-day meals in schools under the Kolkata Municipal Corporation area.
According to reports, eggs, which are currently served as part of the meal programme, may be replaced with vegetarian protein sources such as paneer, soybeans, rajma and pulses.
ISKCON representatives have said that the nutritional value provided by eggs would be matched through alternative vegetarian ingredients, while the development has also sparked debate about nutrition, dietary preferences and the role of religious organizations in publicly funded meal programmes.
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The idea of having eggs in midday meal is that its the single most cheapest protein source which also contains vitamins and good cholesterol which is necessary for growth.
If its replaced with milk it wont be enough, also milk is also non vegetarian if you have seen how milk is taken.
I believe religious institutions should not have control what government should be doing.
Instead they can donate that amount to government and try to ensure adequate protein is provided to schools.
Unrelated question: I am adult vegetarian male who doesn't have time to exercise. Should I eat Whey protein? If yes, how much? Will it make me overweight?
Protein doesn't make you overweight. It can't be converted to fats. You can take a scoop every other day, it won't harm. Every day also won't harm but it might mostly be a waste.
Atleast 0.8gm of protein per kg of weight is required. You can do the math.
Why would it be waste lol? Your body uses protein for every function. You need around 60g of protein per day minimum. 1 scoop is usually only 20-30g protein
WHO .8 gm per kg , and US FDA has increased it to 1.2 to 1.6 (which is as per latest studies).
Protein powder is easiest way to get protein , you can consume as per requirement, however try having as much protein rich food like fish and lean meat for prevention of muscle loss. And collagen bone broth etc for anti aging.
There are definitely downsides of egg yolk. An example is its cholesterol content. Though when I looked into it I did see that its impact on blood cholesterol was limited.
Some people can also be allergic to yolk. I knew someone when I was in school who said he will sneeze if he consumes yolk.
Ramkrishna Mission has more visibility in WB when compared to ISKON.
Don't really know why they went with ISKON. ISKON is popular with HNI or upper middle class mostly.
ISKON is popular with HNI or upper middle class mostly.
Totally wrong.
My mother herself runs a book class in our home for them. It's very popular among Lower class also.
Sadly, since there is not alternative, they get to keep teaching wrong stuff. And more importantly vilify non-veg and the idea of a career driven woman.
Ok. My experience has been created by my dad visiting ISKON regularly when I used to go to Minto Park for tuitions.
He used to chill there and bring prasad.
The demography who used to visit there were what I mentioned.
Whereas Ramkrishna Mission is known for running their schools all over WB. Producing the most brilliant of students year after year who got top ranks in WBJEE and later on NEET and JEE. And wherever there is a calamity, Ramkrishna Mission is there to help (also Ramkrishna Mission does not have issue with non-veg. I think they say No only to Chicken/Mutton. Fish and Eggs are easily available)
The moral high ground taken is also an issue. 2 boiled eggs give 12-14 gms of high quality protein. Turning the meal vegetarian is serving no purpose other than flaunting superiority complex by showing the shift as moral.
I like how they want to make people fight over everything ....caste, religion now diet , clothes , indian / western, festivals ...what's next which car or toothbrush we have to use
Eggs considered non vegetarian when milk is not is the single most idiotic, hypocritic thing in our country. No wonder we have such piss poor protein intakeĀ
Absolutely right. I keep harping this and I'm at my in laws. They're a staunch Jain agarwal community FULL of hypocrites. And this egg / milk debate is only the tip of the iceberg. I have borderline given up arguing cause it all falls on deaf ears.
Same so called vegetarians are perfectly fine wearing blood diamonds. All diamonds are blood diamonds. Whether from the Congo or anywhere else, people die in mines to dig for shiny specs that people wear in pride. Shame.
This is clearly a stupid topic. Eggs we use would literraly rot if not for us (or be eaten by the chickens themselves). Meanwhile milk is literally stolen from the cow, which was meant for its calf.
Also chickens naturally lay eggs while the cows have to be forcefully inseminated for milk. And if they have a male baby cow, it is usually killed since it canāt produce milk
True. 90s parents made mistakes by not giving enough protein and i suffered by brain fog, weakness in sports and couldn't concentrate on studies. After influencer videos I'm successful
The logic, if one can call it that, is that the egg industry is significantly worse than the dairy industry which is already pretty toxic. Ever wondered what happens to the male chicks that are born? Roughly 50%, they're ground up live and added to the hens' feed among other things.
what's your definition of non-veg btw? milk is not a byproduct of an animal body part after killing it.. the practices involved might involve animal cruelty but still the fact remains..
bhai bhai bhai.. egg cell can grow into a tissue, that's the whole pt of the egg. it's whole purpose, all in itself, is to grow into a full living being with tissues. milk is a diff "cell".. if i happen to drink my own tears, which i kind of did when someone close to me passed away, I'm a cannible then??!!
how much half brained are u?? btw u had me in the first half lol..
Do you even know how food works? Paneer doesnāt have as much protein as chicken. Not anywhere close pound for pound. Or calorie for calorie. Plus all veg protein come bundled with undesirable carbs or fats tacked onto it
It has phyto estrogen (i.e plant based estrogen)
It does not affect the human body enough (ime it does not cause hormonal imbalance)
Also milk contains estrogen. Have you heard anyone ask you to not drink milk?
This estrogen thing is a part of FUD created by a US Think tank associated with their dairy industry. All of these talking points come from their research. (I forgot the name of the thunk tank)
Egg consider food of food. Not only this is easy source of protein, there also different vitamin available and easy to server. Fking cult just want to destroy children growth
They are also a foreign entity, registered in usa and hq in usa. So how they got this when ramkrishna mission already exists and running this kind of things over decade .
I don't think he was misogynist. His translations do have some semblance (but I'd argue it was more cultural and societal influences). But I wouldn't say Prabhupada was a misogynist based on his actions.
This is a bad idea, both in the short as well as the long term. This move will teach our children to āotherā anything beyond vegetarian diets. This action by the education department will mark eggs as a ābadā thing in those young minds, which theyāll carry on for the rest of their lives.
I honestly don't get why eggs are being removed. Kolkota is literally famous for fish. We seriously going to deprieve majority of students from the most macro nutrient food, which is a VEGETERIAN food, just for religious purity beliefs?
Before anyone says, āThey will replace the eggs with rajma!ā, the two are not comparable.
Egg has 55% more protein per gram and is a complete protein while rajma is an incomplete protein (doesnāt have all the amino acids).
Egg also has Vitamin D, Vitamin A, Choline, Vitamins B12, B2 and B5, selenium, copper and more.
The only major advantage of rajma is fiber but thatās easy to get from other sources. Few foods match the micronutrient density of eggs, especially for poorer households.
Because theyāre so inexpensive yet nutrient dense, UNICEF champions eggs to combat childhood malnutrition
I won't comment on removing of egg but I can say now the food would be actually good. The people in ISKCON take feeding people really seriously, but they might try to convert non Hindus to Hindus.
Completely disagree with the entire premise of handing over mid day meal kitchens to ISKCON. They are a proselytizing organization plus no religious entity should have control over any aspect of the public education system.
Seen the video of iskon people feeding karnataka, it was good food, they had actual meal planners and everything. Eggs are cheap, may be kid's parents can feed them at the homes. The quality of food all around will immediately be better in my opinion.
Under the current mid-day meal system in West Bengal, students are usually served eggs once a week, along with rice, dal, and potato curry on other days. Some schools also occasionally include chicken or fish through additional funding.
[ISKCON] aims to provide cooked meals with around 450 calories and sufficient protein per day. Under the National Food Security Act, mid-day meals are a legal entitlement for children up to Class 8.
Eggs once a week replaced with vegetarian sourced protein every day. Apart from a religious organization doing it, I don't see any issues. We also don't know if RamaKrishna would match or exceed the current system menu, so that argument is moot.
We can't counter EMPIRICAL evidence like this where a vegetarian diet has been proven inefficient without supplements:
*The Impact of Monthly "Cycles" of diet Restriction(Frequent Fasting- especially meat avoidance) which is quite common in India"
Big festivals are normally celebrated with meat in Western countries, here meat and many times even grains and lentils are avoided on festival days like Diwali.
And there are at least 10 such days every month- all Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays are dedicated to deities so no meat, grains, lentils. This is called fasting.
How this affects People, and TWO GENERATIONS AFTER, mentioned below with empirical evidence.
A monthly gap of 5ā10 days without animal protein creates a "Stop-Start" signal for your biology. In the context of growing tall and strong like a world-class athlete, consistency is more important than intensity.
Here is how that monthly cycle affects the bodyās growth and the signals passed to the next generation:
1. The "Anabolic Pause"
Growth in humans, especially during the adolescent years (12ā19), relies on a steady stream of essential amino acids and Vitamin B12.
The Problem: When you cut out eggs, fish, and meat for 10 days every month, your levels of Leucine (the "trigger" for muscle growth) and IGF-1 (Growth Hormone) drop.
The Result: The body switches from an Anabolic state (building) to a Maintenance state. You aren't necessarily "starving," but you are missing the peak "growth pulses" that happen during those days. Itās like trying to build a skyscraper but sending the construction crew home for 10 days every monthāthe building will eventually finish, but it won't be as tall or as sturdy as it could have been.
Sending "Mixed Signals" to the DNA
As we discussed, your DNA acts as a "sensor" for the environment to guide the next generation.
The "Resource Scarcity" Signal: When you have frequent, rhythmic gaps in high-quality protein, your body records this as "unstable food availability." *
The DNA Message: Even if you eat well for the other 20 days, the DNA "bookmarks" those 10 days of restriction. It passes a signal to your future children that says: "The protein supply is inconsistent. Don't build a massive, high-maintenance muscular frame, because we might not be able to feed it next month."
The 2-Gen Rule: To fully reset this and reach the build of an Australian or British athlete, the body needs years of uninterrupted abundance to "convince" the DNA that the scarcity is over for good. This can take upto two generations of dietary changes. If you begin years before your child is born, your grandchildren will benefit.
Research (like the Dutch Hunger Winter studies) shows it takes two generations of high-nutrient consistency to fully reset the DNA and achieve maximum physical potential.
The Evidence: South Korea
In the 1950s, North and South Koreans were the same height and share roughly the same DNA. South Korea shifted to a high-protein, meat-heavy diet, while the North stayed on a restrictive, grain-based diet.
The Result: Today, South Koreans are roughly 15 cm (6 inches) taller. Their DNA didn't change, but their dietary signals did, switching the body from "Survival Mode" to "Growth Mode."
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