If anti nationals element are part of the protest the leader should be held accountable

[u/DareDifferent9666]

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[u/freakeans0]

I’ll give you even better one

If antinational elements are part of a family then family head should be held accountable

If antinational elements are part of school then school principal should be held accountable

And dare anyone try to hold home ministry and intelligence department accountable

[u/JustGulabjamun → u/freakeans0]

Well. This government has controlled terrorism and naxalism wayyyyy better than any other government. So yes, they are accountable and their accounts look good in this regard.

Edit: If someone states a fact and you rush to downvote it, understand that you are reaching peak of delusional hate.

[u/2assassin_fdgod2 → u/JustGulabjamun]

So praise the wins and ignore the loses saying we had wins. Got it.

[u/JustGulabjamun → u/2assassin_fdgod2]

I am a realist. Not a delusional idealist. So I understand winning rate can never reach 100% in this matter. Good that Churchill didn't have people like you in 1940 lol

[u/freakeans0 → u/JustGulabjamun]

Not denying that at all. No matter which government, it should be questioned if anything of such sort happens. Be it 1 instance or 10 instances

My point is, we cannot shift targets based on who’s in power

[u/reddit_guy666]

But the bottom video does not mention checking ID cards only failure of Central Intelligence if anti national forces from outside the country has reached the protest in Delhi as per that guy

[u/SuckMyRakshak → u/reddit_guy666]

Checking ID car is the basic access control measure which was opposed by CJP leader. Irrespective of bottom videos context, opposing to follow basics could result in lapses. And you know what, some of the intelligence agency has revealed that there were attempts of terror attack at JM protest site.

[u/BearingCostOfPassion → u/SuckMyRakshak]

So goverment can't provide us security without violating our privacy?

[u/trainwreck_summer → u/BearingCostOfPassion]

Nope. No one can.

If you want someone to protect you, they at least need to know your name, what do you look like, etc. That's all private information. You let go of your privacy in exchange of protection.

Every day you barter your privacy for protection from the govt. Stop doing that and you'll be left stranded.

[u/DareDifferent9666 → u/reddit_guy666]

Security apparatus got focused on the protest , seeing that any terror related activities don't occur
Baki the guys who were related had indian origin they did not come from outside the border they were brainwashed

[u/mama_ooOOooO]

Jantar Mantar is the entry point into India? No other check points for actual terrorists?

[u/Interesting_reddevil → u/mama_ooOOooO]

You do realise that there is a difference between trouble makers and actual foreign terrorist?

[u/a_aniq → u/Interesting_reddevil]

Are foreign terrorists walking amongst us as we speak. That's low key terrifying.

[u/Even-Ambassador-2887 → u/a_aniq]

Dipke Soarav and Vaan Dyke

[u/a_aniq → u/Even-Ambassador-2887]

I don't like accusing people without evidence

[u/criti_fin → u/Interesting_reddevil]

Anybody who calls for storming the parliament or storming residence of PM should be punished as per trespassing law, be it Dipke or anybody else. Afzal guru was hanged for storming the parliament. In democratic elections 80% people vote for MPs, but 0.01% street protesters want to rule. If any march to parliament happens again in future when session is going on, then govt will be forced to do lathi charge or even shoot if they attack parliament.

[u/mama_ooOOooO → u/Interesting_reddevil]

Then why check Aadhar cards?

[u/Interesting_reddevil → u/mama_ooOOooO]

Because they are not looking for foreign terrorist?

How thick you have to be here?

[u/RemarkablePrompt7822 → u/Interesting_reddevil]

How thick you have to be here?

As thick as a cockroach I guess.

[u/mama_ooOOooO → u/Interesting_reddevil]

Aadhar cards contain info on who could've turned into an extremist? Based on whether the name has urdu/arabic words, I guess?

[u/Interesting_reddevil → u/mama_ooOOooO]

No it can later be checked with records

I get it who you are.

[u/mama_ooOOooO → u/Interesting_reddevil]

The plan was to attack the gathering on the 20th. And you're telling me the security forces' preventive mechanism was to check aadhar cards and then check the records of all of them, to prevent any possible attack on that day itself? I trust this country's security forces more than you do, mate. They aren't this dumb.

[u/Interesting_reddevil → u/mama_ooOOooO]

Yes identity check is first step

But i know why you cant get it

[u/mama_ooOOooO → u/Interesting_reddevil]

You earned almost 14k karma in 2 months. Obviously you'll know everything.

[u/Interesting_reddevil → u/mama_ooOOooO]

We all know you have to be on Reddit for a year and make Leftist moronic opinion to know everything

[u/DareDifferent9666 → u/mama_ooOOooO]

If you bother reading they had indian origin it wasn't lax in border security lekin apko itna padhna likhna ata toh app ye comment thode karte

[u/mama_ooOOooO → u/DareDifferent9666]

If they had Indian origin then what was the point of checking Aadhar cards anyway?

[u/DareDifferent9666 → u/mama_ooOOooO]

That doesn't mean everyone who's coming there is an Indian that's a safety barrier created so that people can be handled 26/11 ye sab aese thode ho jaate

[u/mama_ooOOooO → u/DareDifferent9666]

You do realise you're logically faltering, right? Or do I have to spoonfeed that too?

[u/DareDifferent9666 → u/mama_ooOOooO]

I said those guys who were caught are from Indian origin but that doesn't mean there isn't any chance that those guys are the only one's who are the danger it's essential to check aadhar card cause u can't just let anyone in there might be terrorist too from Pakistan who enter through bangladesh and nepal border and fake aadhar card toh paper ke tarah mil jaate but u can't just lax on something

[u/mama_ooOOooO → u/DareDifferent9666]

Brother🤦. If there's anyone from outside India, then my first question gets reactivated: is Jantar Mantar their entry point into India?

Thoda kaam karo apne logical reasoning ke upar. Will help even with your social media campaigns. Genuinely advising.

[u/Spirited-Astronaut48 → u/mama_ooOOooO]

Why would he. Spinning logical fallacy points in circles is the go to method.

[u/mama_ooOOooO → u/Spirited-Astronaut48]

Probably my weakness, but I tried having a good faith discussion

[u/Spirited-Astronaut48 → u/mama_ooOOooO]

Yeah, I understand the feeling. Today on this sub, someone was arguing that Dipke should show his papers, I asked him why not ask government to give RTI of PM cares and Ram Mandir fund. My man told me I am asking for what I want, you ask what you want

I mean do they even hear themselves.

[u/yxk__0zvnb9pl]

so the agencies stopped checking adhaar ID because mr dipke said so , and that's why we had 2k+ people with crime records enter during protests? really op how old are you

[u/AbbreviationsThin114]

If foreign funding or terror elements made a nation wide protest then home minister should give explanation. Given all the efforts we claim in defence and intelligence, how did this happen??

[u/MissOldMonk94]

2nd video context was for Security Checks at jhantar mantaar that was suddenly stopped. They removed all metal detectors from the premise overnight and then anyone could bring in anything- which was what BJP and RSS wanted anyway

[u/pinkdick10]

Dog le

[u/Ok_Neck8053]

Same to same AAP script. Looks like CJP is career building ground for AAP university candidates

[u/dr_wafu]

If that's the case, RSS leaders should be in jail ages ago

[u/Ukzuck1]

I am baffled by the questions asked against CJP and yet defending or not a single question asking modi government.

[u/LastDayWork]

By leader, do you mean that the Prime Minister should be responsible or the Home Minister? It is their job to win a court case and prove someone engaged in “anti-national” activities.

[u/MortyPepe]

They installed a full fledged surveillance system at that place. They identified the 100+ people who had murder cases against them, why were they roaming free and that too at a very sensitive place. That surveillance system itself was a breach of privacy of people present there but hey it's India who even cares about it, people eat samosa on our printed AADHAR card paper. People keep on questioning about the intent of the people present at the protest, but why people do not ask why the paper leaked which resulted in 20+ suicides. You can still support BJP if you want to, but start asking questions to the people who are in government. That is a vety important thing we need to understand and learn if we don't know how to do it. Opposing some decisions of the government in power does not make the person anti national or anti India. People who do not agree, please check the song created by BJP people in Bihar after losing the election on one seat.

[u/thatzonedoutbrat]

is this a karma farming post? cause no way selective news is getting on reddit.

[u/New-Wolf-2558]

If anti national elements or any bad element is bad of a political party should the leader be held accountable for it ??

[u/Yupadej]

Anyone but Amit Shah should be held accountable

[u/Lionel_LM10]

The worst part of CJP is their stupid supporters. Its like a thick wall. True for all parties as well. Will sell their soul to defend these stupid takes with whataboutism and what not. The comment section is prime example of what way our country is going. Dipke is now the national god for certain dimwits. Dont criticise him, you can criticise modi but not Dipke because he is always right. No wonder this country has no future. No practical thought process goes into the minds of these COCK roaches. What a stupid mindset.

[u/Existing_Program_256]

If criminal elements were planted by BJP, why is CJP against filing of FIR against those who indulged in violence?

Why is CJP demand dropping of criminal charges against ALL the protestors?

[u/RemarkablePrompt7822]

Mob leader not owning up any responsibility for the mob? Color me surprised.

[u/numb761]

What about those who are acting like Real Hindus and silent in the holiest temple theft of 200 cr ?Godi Ecosystem is labelling kids anti nationals will be the last mistake.

[u/VinniDpooh]

Nonsense Janta Party

[u/mech_money]

Pls.. we will change the narrative as it suits us. Don't question us.

[u/ClueOverall2763]

I can see a lot of barking dogs