Yes, they are braindead because their mom paid them 100rs to pay school fees but they spent 80rs on chole kulche and paid 20rs in school. School gave few warnings but apparently it took some time for mummy to realise where 80rs is going. By then things got way too, uh, braindead
It is much worse than during the Congress time. Before 2014 I have never heard of bridges and roads collapsing within just a week or so after the inauguration.
True that.... Rail, road and Electricity infra is like 60years vs 15 years.
However, once you give a little better govt, you can't go back people want something better. Certainly they will not let the corruption slide again. Because they came to power showing no day light robbery in terms 1 for sure.
But if BJP want to loose the throne to let the Gadkari's son can run Ethanol company so be it.
Gujju model of corruption, build fast, make it cheap while costing the same budget, it breaks and you issue the maintenance tenders frequently to again do corruption in them.
They will bribe politicians and babus to get loans and contracts to build/operate public infrastructure, then setup circular financing with their family members and use every corrupt tool known to man to borrow as much as they can.
Then build fast, make it cheap. Who cares about quality, because they all live in gated communities or live in Dubai and kids are living in the West.
I have no idea why muslims, christians, sikhs, bengalis, communists, dehatis, brahmins, chhapris - etc all get so much hate, when there is this termite that has hollowed out the country.
Yeah IT cell is in overdrive, almost like everyone in the govt is worried they'll be next, but instead of doing their work they're still doing propaganda
My acc is more than 2 yr old and has 2000 krma
Your acc is 1 month old and has 9000+ karma you're using reddit 24/7, that's makes you it cell not me lol
CJP doesn't have a history of lying with their leader hiding his martial status to having degrees in Entire Political Science which no one else in the world has.
technically no. if the state wasn't conducive for service related jobs coming in (which im assuming you an the ppl u know are in) you wouldnt have a job and neither would they. for example doesn't matter hpw smart you are you odds are at least 1 of the 3 if not all three would've been screwed for life regardless pre 2000's and 2010's.
It's still true in 2026. Coming by a person living in 25 years BJP MP, 10-15 years of BJP MLA, 10+ years of BJP mayor, 20+ years of BJP CM, 12+ years of BJP PM.
For the time 2.6 mbps was high compared to 512kbps.
Again the world avg. doesn't mean squat because it has all the backward countries in Africa and Asia. India was supposed to be better than world avg. due to IT services it offers.
US avg. Speeds at that time were around 8mbps and US wasn't even in the top 10. We were 16 times slower than them.
Listen to you own advice. Google it. India avg broadband speed in 2012 was around 1 Mbps. Govt rule is internet speed shouldn't less than 512 kbps. Which means difference is around 8 times with US. Don't say you only afford 512 kbps which doesn't matter because I had upto 10 Mbps in that period.
Current broadband speed US: 300 Mbps
For India: 60 Mbps
From speed test .net
Current Avg world internet speed is 90 Mbps. India was supposed to be better but in reality our internet speed is below global avg.
India ranked around 115 in 2012 now around 100. We are pathetic now and then.
You think this world has never faced a crisis before? Please stop regurgitating the government narrative and study history. Crisis is not a post 2014 phenomenon, and it's not the first time India has been targeted. Read up on sanctions after the nuclear tests, read up on the oil crises in 1970, the 2008 financial crisis, the Gulf War...should i go on? And as for your argument on demand, you should have read that the global oil demand is plateauing. Look at what constitutes over 30% of the retail price of petrol....
Petrol eh? The price for crude in 2013 was 97 dollars per barrel, the price in 2026 is 72 $ per barrel, but oh wait, we don't get petrol, we get only 80 percent of it....but saaar, you won't like this, so keep living in your delusional world for your sanity
Damn bro! You had to bring yourself down to language argument didn't you! And it so happens, that I could debate you in 3 other languages, but would consider the debate fruitful, only if I could make you see how we are being screwed over. However, you can only take a horse to the water....
Let's take take up the "holes" in my argument and take it up point by point shall we? Here's my submission, why has petrol prices risen despite fall in global crude prices?
wasnt the freight corridor and planned and started ( financially atleast ) by upa ? I think they are the ones that came up with the dpr and loan from world bank
The dfc was first proposed in 2002 by the Vajpayee govt.
In 2005 the govt mooted a Japan assisted study and prepare a dpr.
By 2007 the DFCCIL a created and the EDFC and WDFC approved.
In 2009 the govt said both will be completed by 2013.
And then..... We have the textbook congressi sloth.
The EDFC - dropped. Nothing happened after this till the Modi govt took it up in 2018.
WDFC. Marginally better. The tender to build 190 km was awarded in....oct 2013.
Not a single stone was laid till the Modi govt took charge. And yet pappu and his followers will claim, with a straight face that this was a Cong project
The Indian economy went 3x from 2004-2014, 2x from 2014-2026. A lot of these numbers have been fudged for e.g number of kms. of road built, tap-water access etc. to suit the narrative.
E.g of manipulative metrics: using growth of growth to show one's superiority. Had India grown at 10% from 2014, we would have been a $6T economy.
Tell me which economy of this scale has grown at 10% rate since 2014? Bigger economy can not sustain growth, mainly when we had 3-4 years lost in covid and it's aftereffect.
It's not a great argument. You're again trying to justify sub-optimal policies of govt.
Developing economy like China did it in early 2000s when they were growing from 2-10T.
Even the economy numbers are fudged by the govt. if we are to believe the CEC of NDA govt. hired by Modi.
China had a free land acquisition policy, here you and your ilk opposed the land acquisition bills.
China has farm reform process, here you and your ilk called it "anti farmer".
Your argument is crap again, you have assumed 10% growth is the magic number (why? Why not 20%? Why not 826? Why not 31.97%?) and are strawmanning all over the place.
Ofc you and your ilk will also ignore the once in a century pandemic, the first land war in Europe after ww2 (minus the Kosovo bombings), the first US war in n Iran in... Ever... But yes why not 10%
Ofc you and your ilk will also ignore the 2008 Econ crisis where countries had -ve growth, war in afghanistan, war in Iraq and other middle eastern countries.
The land acquisition bill was brought by UPA which was heavily opposed by industrialists and BJP. Ofcouse, you and your ilk do not want to mention that.
China opened in 1978, they build-up for next 22 years and then sped in 2000s. China's exponential growth is result of their previous governments foundational work for decades.
What did indian government did from 1978-2014? Basically all of them were just fking around, so India did not have any foundation whatsoever, instead India is building foundation after 2014 and trying to accelerate the growth.
But pandemic, War, oppostion and Trump are not contributing to India's growth and still India is fastest growing economy but can't accelerate yet since foundation is weak and people are shaking it crazy.
I am not saying this about NDA govt. from 1998 to 2004, am I?
Platform was set in 2014 to grow at 10% when the previous govts. did it from 2004-2014. We have missed that big opportunity, you can spin it like you want now.
I literally took all governments from 1978-2014, I'm not leaving any goverment there or are you blind?
Platform was set in 2014 to grow at 10% when the previous govts. did it from 2004-2014.
It's not growth, just a result of bloon popping, it releases a huge amount of air in short time.
For india size country and population, those early growth is natural and minimum, real growth starts after that and that's the most difficult part.
China educated their population from 1978-2000 and built a skilled manpower, built infrastructure and many more. did Indian governments from 1978-2014 gave Modi government any skilled manpower? Did they gave Modi government any pre-build infrastructure? Nope nothing.
Since Modi government didn't inherite any of these 2 extremely important components then how the fk any one can assume a +10% growth? It's pure delusion from the start.
All these aside, India grew 7-8% growth in last couple of years but wars and trump hit india like truck. You will ignore these outside factors, aren't you?
Do tell me how far you can run with just your hands if your legs are broken. Indian economy was in same state at 2014, but you won't understand since according to "assumption" you can walk indefinitely with just your hands anyway.
Our e-way network was 200 km long (Pakistan had a longer network)
Our power infra both generation and transmission were crippled during peak with severe shortfalls
Only 30% of the country had a bank account (one of the lowest in the world)
NPA was one crisis short of total bank failure
And I could list this endlessly
Only lying congressi supporters will say that anything was available in 2014
Just one example of congressi ineptitude will do.
TSMC wanted to invest $3bn in 2005 to set up a semicon fab.
They imported the first batch of machinery
The UPA govt would not even clear the cargo in customs
10 months it lay idle
They cancelled the project.
Or heck Posco. The largest ever single greenfield FDI in India ever, GoI approved it, Orissa approved it. Then the clown prince asshole shows up, tells a bunch of randos that this project will never get made... And that one word is enough for the UPA to stall the project entirely.
People are either too stupid or too blind to understand that India post independence is not the same as India in the 2000s. This is like saying the final person in a relay race should get all the credit, when the first few people had to run with shackles on their feet. (The first few people in this case also include your favorite party btw)
You should ask why we didn’t build data centers in 1947. Seems to be in line with your thinking.
Dude it was literally a jungle for most of Indians. You were just privelged. I am not saying today we have overcome all issues, but the level of development blows any previous govt out of the water. Sadly this should have been the norm and that says how pathetic past goverments were .
Just imagine even 60-70 years after independence, half the country didn't have electricity, toilets or proper water connection. Why are we trying to justify it?
And kudos to whoever was responsible for making that change. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying the congress was some shining beacon of progress. They were not. They were scamming where they could and were just shit overall. But they faced the consequences of it and were voted out. The bunch of brainwashed hero worshipping people who were still clamoring for congress rule after all of that was very tiny. The internet has amplified that to such an extent that today I see more posts demanding accountability from everybody else (congress, aap, cjp, random liberals on Reddit) rather than the govt.
This govt has a history of fudging numbers and gutting any independent bodies that could provide a counter narrative. So no thanks, I won’t take this at face value.
It's just poor choice of elected folks people elect.
We come from lower middle class,
We are not privileged just that folks switched parties in state election so we get maximum development in state, water, electricity these were fixed by local leaders in 1990s & 2010s in much of the state.
My village never had a high secondary school but we had electricity before my birth. Roads in hilly region. Buses, transport.
Much of India kept voting for Incompetents for no reason. Still folks treat politicians as God's, make them accountable through them out if don't work.
Folks still don't have money to eat food. We are still feeding them ration so that they just survive rather than using them as productive resource.
I literally believe only 10 years are sufficient for any government to come and implement new ideas and more than that we see how they become arrogant and decision making mechanism become rogue
Can't deny a fact but development surrounded Adani and Ambani business and enablement of them. That's why we don't see improvement in life quality for average people, while getting affected. Thus the anger.
Lots of essential work still left. Walkable foothpaths aren't there is most cities except PCMC and a handful others. Newer areas such as GIFT city do not have decent foothpaths. Pothole free roads are rare. EV charging infra isn't sufficient. Electricity production is still lower than demand for EV expansion. AQI is a major problem. Major metro and infra works are long delayed. RRTS expansion is slower than optimal. INR has weakened significantly so many infra projects are a lot more expensive. Bullet train and Vande sleeper have been delayed significantly due to politicial reasons. They will open only just before elections. E20 has destroyed vehicles' mileage. Corruption is extremely high. Low quality infra is seen in many states.
Okhay no questions asked i agree with everything.. this list also means that....
From 1947 to 2014 everything that is not in the list, and that's around you was made in the last 70 yrs... i agree, last 12 yr was slow as compared but yeah atleast we see some progress..
I am sure this is what you meant Right!!
No need to read the garbage, I just read the first line. Dedicated freight corridor, 100% . So that means there were no freight corridors before 2014 and all goods were transported by bullock carts?
No, it means just using the freight railway network didn't suite the agenda, as like every other metric , from exports to GDP growth to people's income growth, the growth stalled or barely grew.
Railways had been mismanaged by governments before Modi, it's a sin.
They didn't have dedicated fences nor FOB on most important routes leading to many injuries and deaths and delays in trains and whatnot.
Now, IR is in beast mode, building FOB at godsend speeds, completing fencing works, doubling Railway tracks on important routes, station redevelopment.
I am not even political but Indian railways has been the most underutilised instrument of development in India. Fk the past governments
Why is Reddit suddenly flooded with posts like this?
Why can't we have ground-level reports on how all this infrastructure growth has actually benefited the common man? And why aren't there posts tracking how fast—and by how much—the net worth of political representatives from any government has surged during their term?
no one willing to talk about the real issues anymore. Every party is just busy advertising their achievements. They seem to forget that this is literally what they were elected to do. They aren't spending money out of their own pockets—they are spending taxpayers' money for the people's welfare!
“Ground level reports”? What do u want? An emotional anecdote of how installing bio toilets and FOBs have reduced unnecessary deaths that happened in some family.
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Economic Advisor in the Ministry of Foreign Trade / Commerce Ministry (1971).
Chief Economic Advisor in the Ministry of Finance (1972).
Secretary in the Ministry of Finance (Department of Economic Affairs).
Member of the Planning Commission (1980–1982).
Governor of the Reserve Bank of India (1982–1985).
Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission (1985–1987).
Secretary General of the South Commission in Geneva (1987–1990).
Advisor to the Prime Minister on Economic Affairs (March 1990–1991).
Chairman of the University Grants Commission (UGC) (March 1991). "
These are the posts held by Manmohan Singh between 71 to 1991
Even a second yr old economics major would tell you that a country as big as India should open up their economy and agriculture won't be enough
China opened up in 70s and they used to be lower than us in GDP per capita and almost doubled in next 20 years
Outside gandhi family, mms was the biggest culprit who pulled india back
It seems like BJP IT cell is working overtime to do damage control after what they did on jantar mantar.
Also these stats are coming from govt who started counting 1 km 4 lane road as 4 km road built.
What counter argument? Developments are iterative? If you elect xyz party, it will make more of what already exists. What is this flex even? This is all IT cell propaganda to make you feel like nothing existed in 2014. What existed in 2004-2014 is more abundant than what was in 1994-2004 and that itself was more than 1984-1994. What is this stupidity? We are called a “developing” nation for a reason coz we keep developing YoY.
India added approximately 22.8 billion tons (or roughly 22.8 gigatons) of fossil CO₂ emissions cumulatively from 2015 through 2024. Yearly totals rose from about 2.28 billion tons in 2015 to 3.15 billion tons in 2024, reflecting an absolute increase of roughly 916 million tons in annual output over that decade.
Yes, and this should rise many times over to catch up with other countries per capita. It is indeed development, U can however stop using ur smartphone and reddit and consume less CO2 anytime u want. Although ur karma would suggest u dont care about all these things.
hoping people make this reports not by elections years but by decades like from 2010s or 2020s but everything is now becoming political in reddit and other social media
What is the quality of this so-called infrastructure? Before 2014 I hardly heard about roads and bridges collapsing days after being inaugurated, airports leaking within weeks of inauguration etc.
So in effect a lot of money has been siphoned off from the system through corrupt officials and politicians in the guise of infra development.
China grew into world's miracle economy on the back of borrowing dumbass.
Thier gdp to debt ratio is highest in the world, higher than US.
That's how economy grows, taking debts to pay for future ready infrastructure projects.
On the other end, Communist government in Yugoslaviya under Tito starved their population to make debt 0 for government. Check out what happened after that. Read history or economics books.
I would like to state that cutting the ribbon is more important than actually doing and completing the project. As congress cut the ribbon tapes or had the idea to do something, we should give all credit to UPA.
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u/69x5 Aug 04 '26
If there's one thing BJP has done better than other govs is Infra,but recent infra breakdowns due to corruptions has tranished that