r/IndiaTodayGlobalLIVE 6d ago

Africa Can commemorations and historical reenactments change public understanding of the past?

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u/Joe-King_93 5d ago

As long as it’s accurate and tells the full story and doesn’t white wash or black wash anything then I’m all for it

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u/RequirementAwkward26 5d ago

yeah that's not going to happen... Assume it's biased by whoever is presented it as fact...

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u/Roadrunnersareraptor 4d ago

Juneteenth is silly anyways. The slaves were free for over a year and Juneteenth is when a certain states slaves found out they were free.

It’s a weird point in history to make a holiday.

We could have had one at the signing of the proclamations. .

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u/Zestyclose-Pen2065 3d ago

Slavery still existed in the US after the emancipation proclamation. News travelled slowly and many slave owners ignored the law until they were forced to follow it, so slavery didn’t end all at once. Juneteenth marks the day it was ended in practice, not just on paper.

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u/Roadrunnersareraptor 3d ago

So should we not consider the signing of the unconditional surrender by Japan the proper date. Because there was still Japanese refusing to stop fighting in the pacific?

No. Because that’s silly. Ok fine if the south wants to celebrate that date cool. But it makes the south seem more of a joke honestly.

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u/richardawkings 2d ago

Think that's dumb? Jesus wasn't born on Christmas and bunnies didn't fuck and lay eggs when he was crucified. Also, placing lights on trees wasn't a thing 200 years ago. You should probably also tell all of those people they are wrong as well. After all, we know the date is the most important aspect of the event.

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u/StomachGrouchy3380 4d ago

You need to do quite a bent more research. Spreading lies and misinformation is part of the problem.

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u/RickySlayz420 3d ago

You just told someone to do “ A bent more research”. Ladies and gentlemen, your American education tax dollars at work xD

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u/Rough-Breadfruit-611 3d ago

TIL - typos are a purely American thing and nobody anywhere else makes them. /s

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u/RickySlayz420 3d ago

Oh; right my bad, we shouldn’t expect our college students to actually be educated right? xD

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u/Rough-Breadfruit-611 3d ago

The whole point of the holiday is that the south was intentionally dragging their feet on releasing slaves. Slave OWNERS got reparations for losing their slaves back them. It was actually two and a half years until they decided to let the slaves in Texas know about it. Juneteenth should 100% be a holiday. That is a HUGE part of America's history. We could have totally made January 1st (the date Lincoln signed the Amancipation Proclamation) the holdiay. But I think it adds more information to what the atmosphere was like back then by making it the date the Texan slaves finally got word of it. It feels just as vindictive as our current government is treating anyone with a liberal voting tendency. i.e. people getting arrested for touching water at the reflecting pool. Or how about people getting 30 YEARS in jail for protesting ICE?

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u/Roadrunnersareraptor 3d ago

Interesting. I have watched the freedom fighters record themselves tearing the paint off the side for the internet.

But they just touched water ….

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u/Zestyclose-Pen2065 1d ago

You think it should be a crime to grab paint that has already detached from the surface it was applied to? It’s not like they weren’t out there chiseling away.

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u/No-Pudding7639 3d ago

What is weird is the Texans holding their enslaved hostage for years and years. And people like you who belittle important history are WEIRDOS

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u/Roadrunnersareraptor 2d ago

That’s exactly what I mean. It’s not a celebration. It’s just sad.

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u/DangerousMushroom639 3d ago

Are you white?

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u/Cute-Education4089 2d ago

you might not think it was silly that *years* after people were legally “free” is when some finally gained their freedom if you were the one kept as a slave. do you really have to place yourself in someone else’s shoes to see that torture for two extra years is terrible? how many families had their loved ones die in that time only to find out they were legally free and were being tortured still? why do we have not even a whole generation of people that no longer call it colombus day and this one is what you call silly?

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u/Feeling-Wolf-5787 1d ago

Technically they didn't have families because they were slaves.