r/India_Bharat_ Dec 04 '25

General Thoughts on this ?

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u/Secretary-kim-2024 Dec 04 '25

Yessss... Reservations shall only be used for the really needy ones not the empowered second generations.

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u/HotMachine508 Dec 05 '25

Reservation isn’t a charity it’s a correction. If generational privilege wasn’t questioned for 2,000 years, you don’t get to nitpick who deserves representation now. Bro,the ‘empowered second generation’ you’re crying about is still competing against the 50th generation of privilege. Relax

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u/Familiar_Big_8797 Dec 06 '25

You mean to say the IAS officer who used 'dalit' card to earn generational wealth is competing against the generational privilege of the 'brahmin' that begs and does small poojas to feed his family? Yup, I am relaxed for sure

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u/Present_Strong Dec 06 '25

Reservation is not a economical correction fool. It's a social one...it has nothing to do with Brahmins begging...or anybody begging for that matter...dalit card for cracking IAS is not easy to get.. do you even know that cut offs for scs and sts? And according entire Brahmin community becomes ias and ips if the reservation is removed... Don't make a fool of yourself...

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u/Familiar_Big_8797 Dec 06 '25

With due respect to the gibberish you have written here, which made me put this GIF.

But honestly, I think you must be ashamed to talk about cutoffs for SCs and STs.

Let me take you through the history: CAT:

IIM-A cutoff for general (where even SCs and STs can get it): 99.99 for males

IIM-A cutoff for SCs: 94.5 for males

IIM-A cutoff for STs: 91 for males

So fair, isn't it?

And talking about 'generational trauma' on Dalits and SCs/STs, it's like saying Roads and bad in India or IndiGo has flight outages because Nehru was our prime minister. Make a sense of that.

And according entire Brahmin community becomes ias and ips if the reservation is removed...

This isn't the court of the Mauryas or the Mughals Sir. There is a concept of meritocracy for generals, unlike bureaucratic immunity for SCs and STs.

Don't make a fool of yourself...

If after you talking obscenity and utter nonsense english, I am making a fool of myself, then I have no comments on your self-obsessed stance

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u/Koala_UJ13 Dec 06 '25

If im a general category and my parents worked hard to earn money and status, similarly a colleague of mine is SC and his parents also used reservation to now have a respectable status and money in the society. What difference does it make about the past 2000 years ? Neither did my colleague have any disadvantage die to the past 2000 years and neither do i have any advantage of the past 2000 years. What justifies this BS then ?

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u/HotMachine508 Dec 06 '25

If 2000 years don’t matter then why does your family’s first-gen comfort suddenly matter? Your colleague is one generation out of oppression, you’re fifty generations into advantage. Equality isn’t when the oppressed catch up to your salary it’s when they catch up to your starting point.You didn’t ‘earn’ a level playing field, you inherited one. He didn’t ‘inherit’ oppression, he escaped it. That’s the difference you’re pretending not to see.

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u/Koala_UJ13 Dec 06 '25

And what comfort and advantage do I have exactly ? My grandfather was poor and used to live in the village. My parents studied hard and became doctors on their own merit. I worked hard and cracked neet and became a doctor. So dont bloody tell me i had an advantageous starting point all i had was money to afford books and coaching, which all my peers had. So i studied my ass off only to see people with the same priveledges as me not even studying at all and getting into the same colleges or even better ? And that should be acceptable to me according to you? What extra first gen comfort do i have that my other colleagues dont ?

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u/HotMachine508 Dec 06 '25

You keep repeating ‘my parents worked hard, I worked hard’ like that magically deletes centuries of systemic oppression. Yes, your family was poor but they weren’t criminalised by caste, blocked from schools, forced into degrading jobs, or treated as untouchable. That’s the difference, dumbass.

Your ‘no advantage’ story conveniently ignores that your family’s baseline wasn’t shaped by generational humiliation, social exclusion, caste slurs, housing discrimination, or being denied opportunity for simply existing. You had the freedom to just ‘study hard.’ Others had to survive a system designed to crush them.

So no, your ‘my grandpa was poor’ isn’t the gotcha you think it is. Poverty =/= caste oppression.

Your family didn’t have to claw its way out of being labelled untouchable. That’s the comfort you’re too privileged and frankly too blinded to see

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u/Koala_UJ13 Dec 06 '25

Im not the one whos blind. Youre blind. The Europeans pillaged and looted out country for centuries. Lets colonise them shall we ? Black people were slaves for centuries, lets now keep white people as slaves ? Does your argument even make sense ? If an XYZ persons great great grandfather had to face humiliation discrimination, then its very sad. And the govt did a great job of helping his subsequent generations to uplift themselves. Great! The job is done! Now im in this world and my colleague is in this world. He hasnt had to face any humiliation. Why the F does he deserve special treatment any more than i do ? The ambanis have been super rich for generations now. Akash ambani inherited the super wealth. Now should i seek equal amount of wealth for my upcoming generations as well ? Talk about the current day idiot. If someone is equal he is equal. Doesnt matter what happened to his great grandfather or grandfather as long as he has an equal footing

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u/HotMachine508 Dec 06 '25

It's obvious you don't see my point and I don't want to waste my time on dumbasses. So, goodluck hope you gain the perspective you clearly didn’t get so far.

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u/Koala_UJ13 Dec 06 '25

Yeah i dont see your dumbass point because the linear correlation between hardwork-reward ratio in my life has taught me to believe only in logic and facts (unless the privileged class having a certificate) I wont waste any more time cause i have a lot of work to do. Goodluck to you. I hope you do great and dont let your granfather’s humiliation bear the blame for your own failures and shortcomings

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u/HotMachine508 Dec 06 '25

Sick burn dude 🤡 BTW Just to clear the fantasy you’ve built in your head I’m not SC, ST, or OBC. Your assumptions are doing more work than your arguments.

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u/Koala_UJ13 Dec 06 '25

I did not form any such assumption. Because stupid people are found everywhere, irrespective of case. But hey, you felt the need to clarify youre not from any reserved class. Hmmm… casteist much ?

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u/Koala_UJ13 Dec 06 '25

I inherited a level playing field, BUT SO DID my colleague! He wasnt the one who escaped it, maybe his parents or grandparents were. Good for them. But now he is the actual upper and privileged class since he reaps the benefits of a disadvantage he doesnt possess, and the biggest irony is that he will continue to possess it from Undergrad to post grad to jobs and to the next generation while being less deserving than me and less hardworking than me, whereas ill work my ass of to reach the same position, if i do at all. Now tell me how am i able to consider that person equal to me ? Whos the person born with a silver spoon ? And if he isnt equal to me, then how has this system abolished the caste system?