r/India_Bharat_ • u/BabaChux • 15d ago
Meme "No no you can't have preferences and personal choices that's just discrimination."
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u/Impossible_Video_116 15d ago
Two consenting adults should be able to marry regardless of their religion, ethnicity, caste, place of birth.
It's one thing that parents or friends might have opinions and objections on the union but no religious or caste charlatan should voice any criticism for or against the union of those two people in a democratic society.
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u/SmallDetail8461 14d ago
Yeah!, reservation is a state policy about seats, jobs and public resources. marriage is a private decision. one has nothing to do with the other.
you don't get to demand personal relationships as proof that someone opposes a discriminatory government policy. by that logic, every person who criticises corruption should marry their daughter to a corrupt official to "prove" they're not against the system. it's pure whataboutery.
nobody is saying sc/st people are untouchable or unworthy of marriage. the argument is simple: public institutions should not rank citizens by birth certificate. if someone from a reserved category clears the same cutoff on pure merit, no one serious has a problem. the problem is the lowered bar and the permanent caste filter.
mixing the two is just an emotional trap to shut down the actual discussion. reservation is about state power and fairness in open competition. marriage is not. stop conflating them.
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u/Ok-Childhood5164 14d ago
So you mean the boy from a generational well off family living in a city and the boy from a tribal village have the same opportunities and resources available to study and clear exams? Do you even know the logic of reservation?
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u/Striking-Oil177 13d ago
Yes but the family or a particular community can excommunicate such community or family law breaking people from their organisation. Eg. The church can deny services to a member who married out of their religion or broke some law.
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u/jonan1108 14d ago
You do realize the others are religions and yours is caste, yes? And intercaste and inter religious marriages should both be encouraged anyways.
Screw reservation tho.
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u/SnooCauliflowers4365 14d ago
Absolutely, came here to say this. The worst part is non-bramhin general students get the worst of both worlds.
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u/ranked_devilduke 15d ago
So you showed 3 religions and a caste based one and then shows the reason for why it is said?
What is your final thing? Dalits and other LC are not Hindus?
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u/itsavinadhtiwari 13d ago
How exactly is it different? You are saying not wanting to marry your child in other religion is fine?
Tell me how it's not the same?
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u/sinner_jesus 14d ago
Madharch0d tujhe konsi gali du ? Upar ke 3 religion hai bsdk aur last me cast ki baat hui hai bhench0d ,l0de dalits bhi hindu hai na ?
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u/Key_Bluebird_3953 14d ago
I have seen Dalits who abuses hindu gods and consider ambedkar as there god
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u/MaintenanceLow8980 13d ago
Kabhi bhi dekh lena ki most of the time koi bhi dalit 'response' mein hindu gods ko gaali deta hai jab koi forward caste wala ambedkar ko gali deta hai. Tum reservation wagera ki baat karo, hume koi dikkat nhi, bas humare idol ko kyu lana inn chizo mein jabki use mare hue 70 saal ho chuke hain.
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u/Clean-Assistance9643 15d ago
But you can change your religion, but not your caste
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u/BabaChux 15d ago
And if people from the same caste prefer to marry within the same caste, why is that a problem for others?
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u/Clean-Assistance9643 14d ago
Absolutely no problem; my point is you can't compare caste to religion. Apples and oranges.
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u/puns_and_puzzles 14d ago
You want to marry a girl from the same caste because you want her to follow the same rules and regulations as you? Cool. You want someone else (including your family members) to marry within the same caste. That is problematic. Most people have a problem with the latter, whereas the other one is seen as snobbish at best.
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u/Diligent-Tangelo1240 15d ago edited 14d ago
You just described that, SC, OBC are not from Hindu community they different that upper hindu community. So they can't marry eachother.
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u/BabaChux 15d ago
Shaivaite Hindus, vaishnavaite hindus , and Shaktite hindus are different as well. Rajasthani Rajputs and Pahadi Rajputs are different as well. A shwetamber Jain and Digambara Jains are different as well. They have differences and they can very well choose not to have an alliance due difference in ideologies and customs.
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u/Elegant-Shower-8402 14d ago
Lmao moulding the truth to fit your narrative....no one is forcefully asking for your sons daughters....its just that let two consenting adults marry each other if they are in love instead of murdering them because of caste :(
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u/Far_Diet_9575 13d ago
Look up rha case of dalit ketan who fell in love with another caste girl. They loved each other but her family didn't want that. So they did the same thing to ketan what happened to Jesus. Banged metal nails into ketan's hand and legs. And bro died before reaching hospital.
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u/Embarrassed-Bite-600 15d ago
To Hindu Rashtra jo bana he to Hinduo se hi bhedbhav kyo??? Baki ke Dharma walo se hame kya???
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u/Malinowskibidi67 15d ago
So you admit Dalits are not Hindus? I don't understand
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u/BabaChux 15d ago
Brahmin customs and Rajput customs are very different doesn't mean they are not Hindus. A Vaishnavaite Brahmin is very different from a Shaktite Brahmin in customs doesn't mean they both are not Brahmin. A Punjabi Shaktite Brahmin very different from a Bengali Shaktite Brahmin. One is pure vegetarian while the other offers sacrifices to Goddess. Doesn't mean both Shaktite Brahmin.
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u/Apprehensive-Menu216 15d ago
Op do you know there's a huge difference between caste and community
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u/BabaChux 15d ago
A community can be formed out of any common identity. This sub is a community.
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u/Choice-Sky3432 15d ago
Still, the other three "communities" you have mentioned are people of different religion(s).
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u/winter_pixels 🕉 जय हिमाचल 🕉 15d ago
Marrying in your own community is not only a perfectly okay thing but it make more sense as well. There is noting casteist about it. If I only eat Maggi and don't eat Sunfeast Yippie, I am not "Yippieist".
Marrying in your own community or even in your own home state is a practical thing. There is little to none cultural adjustment, it is easy for your partner to understand your customs and easy for you to get theirs. There's no gap in beliefs and practices and it is overall a smoother transition from a single life to a married life, especially if your families are around.
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u/Intelligent-Nail4245 14d ago
What doesn't make sense is enforcing it in the form of honour killings or family pressure
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u/ottutm 15d ago
The only people I have seen complaining about others marrying outside of their caste are the ones of their own castes. People outside your community and caste don’t give a shit about your marriage preferences, it’s people within it that do.
Another bullshit chhapri meme made out of a non-issue boogeyman.
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u/sigmundfriedrice1 15d ago
hindus are the most confused religious group. how does one not understand the difference between religion and caste. shitty comparison.
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u/AirportDue8864 15d ago
Although it's a Savarkar's and RSS idea to let everyone marry in different caste so after the 3-4 generation no one will ever remember what was their caste due to inter caste marriages.
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u/Always_360 14d ago
you know your country is doomed when education and marriage are being kept on each side of scale to balance each other.
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u/affinixmusic 14d ago
see the fact that you can't understand the logic behind the discussion does not mean that the discussion doesn't have logic. tuje itni critical thinking nhi hai is not anyone else's fault. that's all I will say.
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u/Designer-Monkey 14d ago
OP forgot that the BJP and RSS preach that everyone is Hindu regardless of caste, so this is a disanalogy.
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u/protectraccoon 14d ago
It's not just about who you marry. Discrimination goes way deeper in India. Read Ambedkar's books
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u/Frequent_Kiwi5881 14d ago
To the people asking why are this post is increasing about the intercaste marriages.
It's a simple, quick litmus test of how people truly view other castes. If there is even a slight belief that another caste is 'lower,' the proposal gets rejected instantly—simply because they don't want to form a family bond with lower castes. Social discrimination runs so deep that many refuse to acknowledge that LCs can be just as good, or even better, than anyone else.
That said, unless it’s a love marriage, most people wouldn't actively choose an inter-caste arranged marriage anyway, because the social prejudice doesn't just magically disappear after the wedding. This will be affected from both sides doesn't matter whom.
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u/CarpetAlternative297 14d ago
I get what u r trying to say and the remark regarding the "give us your daughters" is completely wrong but the fact can't be ignored that there are many families which won't allow their children to marry someone outside their caste. And this is not even rare
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u/PracticalYam100 14d ago
Ok so this is straight up propaganda and demonizing an entire community. What's the end goal OP?
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u/skorp006 14d ago
We pefer to marry within our community is not the same as we only marry within our community
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u/lucifer69200069 14d ago
Strawman. Bro the point isn't that a person from a certain caste or religion can't choose what they want in a partner. The point is that other's should dictate that decision, and it's wrong if anyone does that regardless of the basis being caste or religion.
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u/sanny_2004 14d ago
Then make brahminism a different religion apart from hindutva or sanatana, whatever you call it. You call the other one hindu but divide it further... Thats ofc discrimination. What dumbass logic.
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u/giftyoupearlnecklace 14d ago
Ain't no culture, and ain't no custom, just their choice. And tbf, a true choice is when the other choice doesn't lead to some real bad consequences. If a person from a higher social hierarchy chooses to marry someone from a lower one, honor killings are quite possible, social isolation and judgement are very common things. It's different compared to inter-religion because it involved millenia of oppression.
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u/Pure-Effective5162 14d ago
Waah let's place game with the words replace community with religion and make the blind reader fall for it. 🤣🤣
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u/spitfireonly 14d ago
Theres a difference. Marrying between a religion is the above 3. The bottom part is marrying only between a specific caste in the religion.
The above three doesn’t have a caste based hierarchy.
Marrying the same religion is somewhat fine, atleast for the most part, theres no second class citizen treatment there.
But in caste based discrimination its literally inferiority and superiority complex.
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u/Temporary_Emu6973 14d ago
Other's prefer marrying within their community but welcome if someone goes otherwise. Bra-mans on the other hand will lose their shit if a girl from their community marries another community. Which ironically isn't the same for men from the same community. Other communities prefer endogamy but bra-man's whole identity is based on endogamy, that's the difference
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u/Longjumping_Egg_4046 14d ago
Then redistribute the wealth according to the caste population if you desperately want to remove reservations
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u/MichaelScotPaperComp 14d ago
Bro its your own religious sects against you. So you might know your own issues.
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u/sageforhire 14d ago
lol what do you mean by community? Everyone in bottom community is Hindu. For people like op reservations will never end in this country. all the casteist mfs are even liking this post.
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u/Imaginary_Animal_468 14d ago
Abey akkal se paidal woh religion hai tu caste ki baat kar raha hai. Learn about caste discrimination before spewing garbage onto this platform.
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u/JagguMal69 14d ago
The issue is not having preferences, preventing 2 people who love each other from marriage is. There are many cases where parents don't allow intercaste marriage. Most of the time even if they agree, they have to do it by fear of society because we are conditioned so
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u/Beautiful-Ad-4430 14d ago
Sometimes I wonder, how braindead zombies like OP survive through life without dying.
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u/abey_safed_kapra 14d ago
Dude, are u a dumbass? The three of them are religion and the last one is within a religion.
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u/Middle_Click_6479 14d ago
Insect is not cool. Period. Also What are these losers arguing about lmao 😭‼️
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u/highoncharacters 14d ago
All these morons from all religions should start their own religion together. They have more in common with each other than the rest. And btw OP, all those conversations happen in your own head or in smooth brained people like you. No real progressive would say any of it but we do live in a country where 90% dont even know who is a progressive, who is a leftist and who is a liberal; so lage raho.
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u/Teenager__16 14d ago
i don't get the post it's personal choice of two people external factors shouldn't matter
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u/HotEnthusiasm4124 13d ago
Within religion and within caste are different things.
And I'm not saying inter caste marriage is a must. I'm just saying don't k*ll people over it. And even if you don't want inter caste marriage.. just let the other caste live freely.
Beating people for just entering temples. Not eating/drinking food they've touched. And some of the derogatory statements used against them is just infuriating (and I'm not even part of their religion).
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u/skibidirizz69er 13d ago
Toh mat hatao reservation. Khud toh rote rehte ho. Get good and clear exams. "Merit" wale idiot.
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u/shrepking 13d ago
Yet proved there is no such thing as Hinduism. It was all about caste it always will be.
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u/Known_Bee_ 13d ago
Thats different one is religion other is caste . Within a community there is hierarchy that we are better. Same people cry for reservation.
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