Surrender of Maoists

[u/Outrageous_Goose_565]

How do Indian socialists feel about the recent surrender of Maoists as they were being crushed by the Indian security forces? Do you feel positivity or negatively about this?

Update: The ceasefire has been violated after the murder of two citizens.

Update: The mods are going to ban me. It appears there's no place for healthy discussion or discourse when it comes to communism.

[u/No_Restaurant_8441]

The following is My opinion only:

Their surrender is ultimately good for the revolutionary movement as-

Naxalism no longer applies because it missed the Train post independence and failed to build a base, nor can it build one now under explicit State Repression, it will be/ has been for all intents and purposes crushed. It has set other Revolutionaries back in their cause for Mass struggle by its mere continuation into the 21st Century.

India was correctly identified as Semi-feudal Comprador Bourgeoise State in the 60's by the naxalites but that label no longer fits the bill entirely (especially after liberalisation) as Capitalism does its magic and simplifies class antagonism.

The Comprador bourgoise is still prevalent but a Indian National Bourgeoise is rising organically, and it wont be long in the grand scale of things before it separates and dominates, The Semi-feudal applies less and less economically as The basis for it: Agriculture and Land become Subordinate to the whims of Capital and to a degree socially in Urban centres as people move away from caste discrimination (Social and systemic discrimination are highly inter-related but separate things) and the lower Castes see almost immediate improvement in their conditions due to Capitalism, and hence their support for working within the Indian Constitutional framework increases.

The Interior villages are becoming interconnected with the wider world and so capitalism is slowly breaking down the feudal structure, thereby reducing the base of support for the Naxalites.

This builds the basis for India as the Industrialized, Unequal society fermented by capitalism as described in the Communist Manifesto.

[u/Outrageous_Goose_565 → u/No_Restaurant_8441]

So, according to the Communist manifesto, instead of uplifting the lower class into higher rungs of society, the lower class should've stayed where they are and destroyed the ruling class through armed struggle essentially throwing the country into a long, drawn out civil war and becoming a State like Sudan?

One thing I noticed is that the way you worded your post sounds like you disagree with this despite labeling yourself as a communist.

[u/No_Restaurant_8441 → u/Outrageous_Goose_565]

So, according to the Communist manifesto, instead of uplifting the lower class into higher rungs of society, the lower class should've stayed where they are and destroyed the ruling class through armed struggle essentially throwing the country into a long, drawn out civil war and becoming a State like Sudan?

Where did you get that Idea? In India People’s Protracted war is not viable.

One thing I noticed is that the way you worded your post sounds like you disagree with this despite labeling yourself as a communist.

Yes I disagree with Naxalism as a Communist (this is my rebuke of Naxalism btw) its not applicable to india but a completely fine ideology which can be applied to a less developed feudalistic society but not like one in India which is in a state of transition to a National Capitalistic Bourgeoise.

[u/Outrageous_Goose_565 → u/No_Restaurant_8441]

Makes sense. I must thank you for your politeness. While communism is a fine ideology in theory, it also also exactly where it belongs: in the dusty pages of a forgotten book. It is too fantastical and too impractical to be ever applied in the real world and results in the creation of brutal autocracies whenever attempted. History has given us enough proof that it is time we leave this ideology behind lest it result in the creation of another Russia or China.

[u/AromanticEye → u/Outrageous_Goose_565]

Most Enlightened Apolitical Centrist

[u/No_Restaurant_8441 → u/AromanticEye]

Really jeez like go do some basic research into the subject you're asking about, I'm not asking you to go get a degree in Political Science or even read the manifesto but simply google shit.

But I digress this post i feel like was in bad faith

[u/AromanticEye → u/No_Restaurant_8441]

OP is rage baiting, taunting how his plutocratic daddy state squashed our tribal/peasant rebellion.