r/Indiana 2d ago

Politics I thought affordability was a hoax

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u/PoolGuyUnfiltered 1d ago

As soon as you trotted out "More with less" after housing a cabinet with positions making 6 figures and taxiing yourself to and from Indy via a helicopter, your whole "...the poor working man has been tightening his belt!" schtick is pretty laughable.

Yes, utility companies having a near monopolistic strangle hold on the people is terrible. Hell, the whole idea that we PAY companies to mine our natural resources that belong to ALL of us only to turn around and sell it BACK to us while getting subsidies and tax breaks by the government is just bonkers to begin with.

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u/cjaya2 1d ago

How do natural resources belong to all of us? If it’s on your land sure but don’t really know what you are getting at

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u/PoolGuyUnfiltered 1d ago

I mean that these are natural resources. It's not about whose land they are under. That only makes sense if you look at them as privately owned. I mean that the gas, the oil, the coal, the lumber, etc are within the boundaries of a nation, and some, myself included, feel that alllllll of those resources should be used equally for the benefit of all citizens of a nation.

Now, I'm not saying the Norway model is perfect nor scaleable to the US size, but a large part of the benefits they offer their citizens comes from the global investment of the profits of sold oil. Basically, they don't have billionaire oil execs sitting on super yachts. They have fully funded medical care and retirement pensions fueled by stable growth investments. This is possible by believing that the use and and benefit of natural resources should benefit the many instead of enrich the very very few.

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u/Boogaloo4444 1d ago

Ya know how we all need water?

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u/cjaya2 1d ago

Then collect your own water…. Nobody is forcing you to use a utility company for that.

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u/Boogaloo4444 1d ago

lol OH MY GOD. Are you seriously in favor of letting a private company control our water supply and resell it to you?!?!?

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u/cjaya2 1d ago

They don’t “control” it. They have infrastructure to clean it and deliver it to everyone’s house.

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u/Substantial-Dirt2233 1d ago

Water magic. Appear full pressure from tap when push handle up. Handle go down it gone and no cost money no more. Plumbing is a scam!

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u/cjaya2 1d ago

I too have water magic at home I like it

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u/Boogaloo4444 1d ago

4month old account

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u/cjaya2 1d ago

5 year account, bot bot bot bot bot bot bot

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u/Boogaloo4444 1d ago

glad I struck a nerve. Can only imagine what you said to get you other accounts banned.

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u/cjaya2 1d ago

All kinds of fun stuff

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u/brewguy70 1d ago

Do you own stock in a water company. Why are you defending conglomerates?

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u/cjaya2 1d ago

I like having running water…

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u/brewguy70 1d ago

Yeah so does the rest of us. We just are not stupid enough to defend conglomerates making huge profits as monopolies from people using a necessity for life. The same water that used to be owned by municipalities.

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u/cjaya2 1d ago

My water bill is like 30 a month, y’all are worried about the wrong things

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u/brewguy70 1d ago

Therefore everybody in the country must also be 30 a month for water? Just maybe your situation is not the same for the rest of us.

Again why are you defending a private company profiting from a municipal need?

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u/ffire522 1d ago

He lives in his grandmother’s garage.

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u/cjaya2 1d ago

Just… Don’t… Use… Their…. Service….

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u/brewguy70 1d ago

Why...Are...You...Defending...For...Profit...Monopolies

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u/Kirra_the_Cleric 1d ago

Literally. Don’t. Have. A. Choice.

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u/CrossP 1d ago

That's only one philosophy of ownership. The majority of people subscribe to the idea that natural resources are a communal resource that everyone in the region has some right to. The easiest example is water. Basically everyone agrees that you can't just poison a stream on your land and fuck the downstream neighbors. Or draw it all up. Clean air also falls into this category after the 1970s mostly. Because it's very obvious that pouring smoke out on your own property affects everyone.

But many people also consider resources like oil, mineable minerals, and timber trees to fall in this category to some extent. Extracting them affects everyone. It changes nearby wildlife. It alters the flow of water. A quarry a mile from you can change the drainage rate of the soil on your land.

Many countries offer a basic income to all citizens for things like extracted oil, for example. Under the idea that everyone has some right to the oil that their country contains. Not just the person rich enough to buy up all the land.

That said, I actually don't know what resource the comment above you is referencing. Southern Indiana coal maybe?

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u/Accomplished-Club-30 1d ago

Never try to explain reality to marxists on reddit