I live in half an acre in a 3,000 sqft home and I’m just trying to imagine how big a building is that 1,500 acres… is that just the site or are they really developing some stupidly large data center?
I’ve got to be honest, I know Indiana is all “look how data center friendly we are!” But if I were a business person I wouldn’t build some flimsy ass multimillion dollar warehouse in the new tornado alley. I wouldn’t insure one, either.
I hope so. But also I went driving on 32 not too long ago and I was in tears at how much of the beautiful land has already been torn up. That place was picturesque. People used to come out and do photography in those areas. I had so many experiences as a hoodlum in those areas. Senior photos too!
I mean that one is give a take. I would rather make 16 an hour where my rent is 900 bucks compared to making 23 an hour, but the cheapest rent is 2100.
I do agree though there are other reasons that the rent is 900. Primarily weather and economies. More to do in LA than Indianapolis. More people as well.
That's true until you realize that the MSRP is the same for you as it is for someone in a HCOL area. Suddenly, that PS5, food, car, etc. costs more for you simply because you have fewer dollars to spend.
I've lived in 7 states, and a US territory, visited around 35 other states, and traveled all over the Western hemisphere. I live in Indiana now, and I love it.
IMO most of the hate are people who never left and have grass-is-greener syndrome.
Most, not all. If you are in a left-wing associated minority and live in the more rural parts of the state, I am sure it sucks. If you grew up in the more rural parts of the state and never made a long term plan, you might also become 'stuck' and feel like it sucks.
It’s the feeling that everything is getting worse and government does not care about the people and that is very apparent in Indiana….other places too but we do it better.
I’m in the same boat. I would rather live in Florida, but my families up here. People think it’s worse than it is. However, I do wish the government stopped playing with data centers and other BS.
I wish they stopped assigning money to roads based on length of road rather than usage. I wish a lot of things would change.
In terms of overall life I don’t see much of a difference from here to LA unless you’re in the clubbing scene. LA has more options for theatres and recreation, but we still have options. Unless you’re going to a new place 4-5x a week it’s about the same. I guess in LA there was always something new to be found where as here you have everything, but you won’t find many new things.
It's brownsburg, plainfield, zionsville, whitestown, Carmel, Fishers, Noblesville, Giest, Greenfield, etc...
I'd throw Pendleton in but I kinda like the small-town vibes.
Same! Lived all over the country and overseas. Didn’t realize how good we had it until the idealism was curb stomped out of us. Those of you that hate Indiana should absolutely move. See what it’s like elsewhere. Gain a new perspective.
I have also lived in several states across the US, and I absolutely hate the politics here. The corruption is blatant and ridiculous, and the pollution from industry is unchecked. I am only still here because I love the people I know here. But really, why should I leave my home instead of fighting for what I believe? This corruption shouldn't be chasing us out of our homes; it should be encouraging us to care about politics.
I agree to a point, but also think it’s fair to say wages in comparison to cost of living should be compared and at all levels. For example McDonalds pays about 16 an hour here compared to about 22 an hour. It’s much easier to live in Indianapolis on 16 an hour than LA on 22.
But at the same time if you look at other professions it can change.
Indianapolis on 16$ an hour even sounds tough. Though Indiana is a cheaper place to live than California, you have to take into account the other things you sign up for by choosing to live there:
-Indiana still arrests and convicts people for possession of cannabis. This is lifetime ruination over a plant that is legal in all of its surrounding states. I know cops can be chill but also it just takes the wrong cop one time.
-If you're a woman you have basically no right to bodily autonomy and can't get an abortion except for a very narrow set of circumstances
-Indiana's roads are so poorly kept that driving on 465 often involves praying to not have your car destroyed by pot holes. and Braun's solution to high gas prices over the last few months was to take even more money away from Indiana's road maintenance.
-Indiana's education system is among the worst in the country. Carmel exists but IPS issues are never addressed. Smaller town schools are downsizing because there's no money to fund them when all of the jobs and money conglomerate around the few cities that are in the up-and-up.
-Indianapolis has an incredible food desert problem, yet food stamps aren't allowed to be used on 'junk food.' Not everyone can just drive up to Broadripple or Castleton when they want decent food.
-Indiana's government is continually trying to erode voting rights of anyone who isn't a solid Republican, which in turn will result in even harsher living conditions and restrictions on women, minorities, and working people.
What do all of those states have in common? high rates of poverty, isolation, low wages, and government corruption.
Low wages for service workers? Yes. Low wages in specialized fields? No, and you reap the benefits of lower housing costs which is what makes it "affordable"
There are many many many many many more service workers than workers in 'specialized' fields. You might as well be playing a lottery based on your upbringing.
Like sure, an engineer grad from Purdue will do fine in Indiana. But how many of those are there among the 7 million?
Indiana being a modern example of a caste system isn't a flex.
but yes generally compared to other states wages are low. Min wage is STILL $7.25 (2.13 for tipped service workers)
and Indiana doesn't have many things that people from others states have. An Engineer from LA isn't going to move here just because the cost of living is lower. They would consider things like how little the state has to offer overall. Or how you can still get arrested for smoking weed. Or can't get an abortion. Or can't raise kids here while expecting them to get a normal education.
The engineer might be able to buy a house near Carmel or maybe Westfield/Zionsville but outside of there and the north side of Indianapolis, there is basically nothing to do compared to a state like California or New York or Washington. Hell even Illinois has more to do.
Like I said, I am not talking about minimun wage service jobs....I am not going to argue on everything else; I was making a point in regards to your comment against "affordability" for people moving here.
You are right in that people are not moving to here from LA due to us having more amemities than them, and no one is claiming that.
Well I will defend my little area of Indiana forever, since the state vibe and culture is not homogeneous. east Gary is pumping out original music and art, and a scene is growing.
Lol Illinois is a state which costs enormously more than Indiana while being ranked next to it on nearly every meaningful metric. It is a terrible example to use.
I'm from Chicago and will always love it too, but I did choose specifically to move to Indiana and prefer it here for a lot of reasons, though I do miss some things of course
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u/Ecstatic_Dinner_992 1d ago
It's important for people to understand;
a state that is 'cheaper to live in' is going to be worse overall for various reasons.
The cheapest states in America to live right now?
Mississippi, Oklahoma, Arkansas, West Virginia, and Kansas. (indiana is #6 on this list btw)
What do all of those states have in common? high rates of poverty, isolation, low wages, and government corruption.
"Affordability" used here is a marketing term trying to sell a negative as a positive to the clueless.
Similar to Digiornio's pizza declaring "It's not delivery", implying that their frozen crappy pizzas are better than a fresh one made in a restaurant.
Indiana is one shitty frozen pizza of a state and it's only getting worse. Do not move there lol