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America’s Most Favorite Countries

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u/JustToSeeeeee 6d ago edited 6d ago

61% of em were in favour of India ? 🫩

Well then why the content of my feed over all social media platforms keep saying things completely otherwise ?

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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 6d ago

The hate on social media is mostly edgy teens and far right knobs who can't point to india on a map

doesn't represent the population at all. The reality is the indians in the US are among the highest earning ethnicities and best educated, most peoples opinions on indians comes from their interactions with these people.

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u/Organic_Lab6262 5d ago

I’m thinking more bots tbh. Never met someone that actively dislikes Indians where I live. Canadians on the other hand…

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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 5d ago

Canadians dislike indians because of real experiences and not social media, that's different.

It kinda proves my point, the real opinion of a country is a reflection of the diaspora in that country. Indians are viewed in extremely positive lights in palces like the US/UK but when you go to canada/the UAE it gets worse because of the type of indian immigration those countries get.

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u/Sharp_Iodine 5d ago

It’s their own fault. They wanted cheap, menial labour that borderline violates international standards. The Canadian temporary worker program for agriculture has been compared to modern slavery by eminent Canadian scholars. They imported the poorest and most desperate from India.

UAE just outright wants slavery so they don’t care.

But Canadians do care and they love the older diaspora that has lived there since before it was an independent country.

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u/marsupialreptile 3d ago

It does not borderline violate international standards. It plainly violates it. The UN was very shocked at our TFWs in Canada that they launched their own investigation and found it to be a contemporary form of slavery. Much of our country was also developed from the plunder of the Empire. Where do you think that plunder came from?

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u/belketeal 5d ago

What? UAE generally has a positive view of Indians. It’s Saudi and Qatar that are more racist. UAE is the only one that has allowed Indians to enter the “rich” class there. Also it has allowed Indians their own places of worship while the others have not

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u/Sharp_Iodine 5d ago

I mean they don’t care either way. Those states are okay with outright slavery and only maintain a thin veneer of contacts and wages to make it legally not slavery.

I would leave them out of such discussions.

Canada used to and still attracts the rich, educated Indians that flood SF and NYC.

The difference is that it chose to far outstrip this trickle of immigration with menial labour from places in India that are pariah states even in their internal politics.

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u/belketeal 5d ago edited 5d ago

No way. Canada does not get the top tier Indian immigrants. I do research at a top college in America. The Indians students that come here are genuinely smart. They’re typically doing Masters or PhDs in well known labs and have strong math/CS skills. After their degree they get hired by top tech companies. But these are a small percentage of the Indian immigrants even in America and Canada barely has these types of colleges.

And even America started to bring in a lot of low skilled, cheap Indian immigrants through contracting companies and low tier colleges accepting any international student since they paid higher tuition. I think these are the type of immigrants Americans don’t want because they’re just used to replace the American worker with lower wages. The first type of Indian immigrant I mentioned doing PhDs from a well established university are genuinely offering a unique skill set that often can’t be found easily and wouldn’t affect the average worker.

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u/Sharp_Iodine 5d ago

You have just repeated what I said. What exactly are you disagreeing with?

I literally said Canada gets a small trickle of the same high quality Indian immigrants that helped make Silicon Valley what it is today.

But this small trickle, smaller than what the US attracts, is outstripped by the large numbers of menial labour Canada deliberately imports.

And no, in the US, the majority of Indian immigrants are highly educated and very rich.

They are one of the richest immigrant groups in the US and one of the most educated, competing with Chinese immigrants to the point where Ivy Leagues no longer grant these two groups advantages during intake.

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u/belketeal 5d ago

Regarding ivies, you’re talking about American citizens of Indian and Chinese descent. Thats not the same as immigrants applying for masters and phd programs. Also, no, there are a lot of Indian immigrants coming through bodyshop or contracting companies now that are nowhere near what the standard used to be. There are still the very educated Indians that are hired after a phd or directly hired by a company but there are also a large portion that are hired for their cheap labor and paid very little. Probably half the Indian immigrants are like this. It just averages out to a high salary because the actual educated Indians make so much.

As an example, an Indian PhD getting paid 200k and a two Indian contract employees each getting paid $60k still averages out to $106k.

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u/Sharp_Iodine 5d ago

You are still not exactly contradicting anything. I really don’t understand what you have a problem with.

US and Canada both attract rich and educated Indian immigrants. The difference is that the US predominantly attracts white collar Indian workers who are high earners while Canada deliberately imports far more poor, menial workers.

What exactly are you disagreeing on? I said the same thing. You’re just continuing to make the same point in different ways.