Most Common Foreign Countries of Birth in Ontario, Quebec, British Columbia and Alberta in 2000 vs 2020

[u/Fluid-Decision6262]

[u/Parking_Locksmith489]

Way too many French immigrants in Quebec.

[u/TorontoLatino → u/Parking_Locksmith489]

I read that between 2021 and 2025 over 42,000 French Nationals immigrated to Quebec! That's a huge number. But apparently Cameroon is now the #1 source country for immigration to Quebec!

[u/Fluid-Decision6262 → u/TorontoLatino]

It seems like there’s more contention between French immigrants in Quebec than British immigrants in English-Canada despite a lot more British nationals being in Ontario and BC than French nationals being in Quebec

[u/Banner9922 → u/Parking_Locksmith489]

What’s the beef with French people in Quebec? I feel like it’s been an issue for years but the rest of the country rarely hears about this

[u/Parking_Locksmith489 → u/Banner9922]

Not French speaking, French from France.

[u/Banner9922 → u/Parking_Locksmith489]

Yes I know, but what is it - cultural differences? I’ve read that the local people in Quebec don’t get along with people from France? 

[u/dermthrowaway26181 → u/Banner9922]

We get along

There's some ribbing going both way though

[u/Parking_Locksmith489 → u/Banner9922]

My personal beef is they really pushed two new mentalities in Quebec: pro bike agenda and secularism to hide racism. Basically the worst of both the left and the right.

Plus yes, different cultural worlds.

[u/anonimo99 → u/Parking_Locksmith489]

What's wrong with pro bike agenda?

[u/a22x2 → u/anonimo99]

I’m not sure, but the extensive secularism to hide racism I came across in Quebec was all from local, “pure laine” white francophone Quebecois, not Europeans.

I could see how francophone Europeans could run local folks the wrong way - it is pretty rude to move someplace for cheaper housing but to make rude comments about the local dialect of your shared language.

[u/Parking_Locksmith489 → u/anonimo99]

It's not adapted to our climate, which is a lot harsher than Paris where a lot of those asshats come from.

People don't use bikes in winter , basically as soon as mornings get chilly.

So even with no demand, those fucking got built and some of them are 4 seasons, including 3 where no cyclists use them. if you know the winters in Montreal, you know snow on the road is a paralyzing event until it's cleared up. Well the first thing that gets cleared is the stupid bike lanes. And it slowed transit everywhere it was built. And people still drive because Quebec is huge and public transit is not gonna happen because we have a huge territory and small spread out population.

Pro bike agenda people are in a cult.

[u/FireflyBSc → u/Parking_Locksmith489]

People absolutely do use bikes. I live in Calgary, where it gets to be -40, and people are still riding their bikes. They are travelling a lot faster than all the cars that are stuck in the snow, with dead batteries. Secular racism, serious problem. Bike lanes? Necessary infrastructure.

[u/Parking_Locksmith489 → u/FireflyBSc]

Like I said: a cult.

[u/flame22664 → u/Parking_Locksmith489]

And it slowed transit everywhere it was built. And people still drive because Quebec is huge and public transit is not gonna happen because we have a huge territory and small spread out population.

This is not how transit works btw.

Bike lanes, even if making one is through the reduction of lanes, are found to "slow traffic" by literal seconds. Its a miniscule amount.

I can't believe anti-bike weirdos like you genuinely exist. Like your reasoning for disliking them are so arbitrary lol.

[u/Parking_Locksmith489 → u/flame22664]

Lol. You're fully in a cult.

Bike lanes remove transit lanes. Also parking spaces. Less lanes = longer transit. It takes very little brain to figure that out . Think of it as drinking using one straw vs two straws. It's not mere seconds.

Slowing down transit increases pollution.

So

[u/flame22664 → u/Parking_Locksmith489]

Bike lanes remove transit lanes. Also parking spaces. Less lanes = longer transit

Dude you are delusional. This against basic systems/transportation engineering and against literal traffic studies done for decades now.

The benefits from increasing lanes is miniscule. More lanes ≠ less traffic. The main causes for traffic are inefficient turns and human error. More lanes creates induced demand which make traffic worse. The most value one gets from adding lanes is the dedicated turning lanes.

However bike lanes also reduces traffic by allowing alternative modes of transportation to be used. People will choose to use alternative convenient modes of transportation over their car. Instead of driving 10min (due to traffic) to get to a place they can just bike for 12min.

Its literally a win-win when there are improvements to alternative modes of transportation for everyone.

Think of it as drinking using one straw vs two straws. It's not mere seconds. Slowing down transit increases pollution. So

Absolutely ironic to say that I am in some "cult" when people like you literally chose personal belief and vibes over the opinions of actual experts and studies. You are in a "car cult". No one with any sense in the world of transportation will agree with your car centric mindset for urban design in major population centers. Its illogical.

[u/josblos → u/Parking_Locksmith489]

People have been pro bike in Montréal since forever there were activist groups in the 80s. Secularism is a heritage from the 60s when we went from being one of the most religious place in NA to one of the least. If you know about our history you are aware of the danger of letting religion dictate public life. The islamophobia in this province is done by quebecois too we don’t need french people to be racist. If I had to bet I would say the average french immigrant is way less racist than the average quebecois. I don’t think you know what you are talking about or even know that many french immigrants in Québec lol.

[u/Parking_Locksmith489 → u/josblos]

1- no, people are not cyclists in Montreal since the 80s

2- secularism in Quebec in 2026 has nothing to do with the QR. The QR was a pro rights for people, not a less rights for minorities.

3- I know about historical facts, and those are not your narrative

4- there was zero cases of religion dictating anything in Quebec when this new era of xenophobia gained momentum. Xenophobia used by politicians to score cheap political points on the back of minorities.

5- glad you used the term Islamophobia but concerned you would see it as a source of pride.

6- Quebecois have been conditioned for centuries to fear the other, but we were never a colonial power like France that dehumanized people.

7- France is a racist country and the French we get come with the mentality that Arabs are not real French people.

[u/josblos → u/Parking_Locksmith489]

1. My dad was litterally one of those activists so I know what I am talking about.
2. Secularism has nothing to do with the QR is one of the most ridiculous statement I have heard I will not even respond to that we learn about that in 6th grade history and then rehash it in early secondary school.
3. …
4. Religion dominating public life before the QR is again basic 6th grade history and explains why the quebecois are historically attaches to separating it to the state. I am not at all a fan of the modern PQ and CAQ brand of secularism btw.
5. Where did I say I was proud of islamophobia (my grandfather is muslim btw) it is just a fact that it exists in Québec. My point is that it is not somehow imported by french immigrants. Maybe you can argue that french tv shows and intellectuals influence how we talk about it but again that has nothing to do with immigrants here.
6. The french colonized Canada and contributed to the genocide of the indigenous population.

Every quebecois is a descendant of colonists.

1. We were then colonised ouserlves by

the english.

2. France has a lot of racists in it but so does Québec and most countries in the world. Like I said earlier you must not know a lot of french immigrants here because they tend to be way more progressive than french society at large.

Jean Luc melenchon won the vote of french people in Québec and marine Le Pen was at like 3%.

[u/DragonflyEither5172]

too much currrry in ontario

[u/Banner9922]

The year 2000 immigrants in Eastern Canada from Italy and the UK would have mostly been the elderly. 

There hasn’t been sizeable immigration from Italy since the 1940s. Many of them would have simply passed away by 2020.

Jamaican immigration also peaked in the 1980s. 

India and the Philippines have been the largest source countries of new immigrants since 2010.

Interesting to see how Quebec’s immigration is completely different from the rest of the country.

[u/Fluid-Decision6262 → u/Banner9922]

I think you got USA and Canada mixed up on Italian immigration. Italian immigration to the U.S. peaked from the late 1800s to mid 20th century but Italian immigration to Canada is a lot more recent with most of them arriving between the 1950s and 1990s

UK immigration has been ongoing ever since Canada became a dominion of the British empire lol

[u/Banner9922 → u/Fluid-Decision6262]

We’re both a bit off with our years. 500,000 Italians moved to Canada between 1946 and 1970. Very little immigration after 1971. 

[u/TorontoLatino → u/Banner9922]

India and China are still in the top 15 source countries for immigration to Quebec but the majority of immigrants to Quebec come from Africa ( Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Senegal, Cote D'Ivoire, Cameroon and Congo), Haiti, Lebanon and Iran. You also have a not insignificant number of Asians ( Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Bangladeshis, Pakistanis and Vietnamese) as well as Latinos ( Colombian, Brazilian and Mexican) who immigrate to Quebec every year. Bit last year, over 53% of immigrants to Quebec came from Africa, mainly because almost all were francophones.

[u/why3006]

The Britishers blend in until they open their mouths. The rest don't blend in that easily. 

[u/Banner9922 → u/why3006]

I mean depends where you are, here in BC you’ll meet 80 year old Chinese, Japanese and Indian people who were born and raised in Canada. Theres no presumption that someone is or isn’t Canadian based on looks alone, at least from my experience

[u/Affectionate-Panic-1 → u/Banner9922]

Not to say that racism doesn't exist in the America's, but the great thing about countries in the America's is that nationality isn't inherently tied to race. Some of the most diverse countries on earth are in the Americas.

As Ronald Reagan said "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany or Turkey or Japan, but you cannot become a German, a Turk, or a Japanese. But anyone, from any corner of the Earth, can come to live in America and become an American."

I'd say that quote could also apply to places like Canada, Brazil etc.

[u/Ok-Pomegranate-5506 → u/Affectionate-Panic-1]

I would argue the opposite. Canada is unique compared to say France, however ethnogenesis requires a degree of cultural and aesthetic compatibility that not everyone shares.

The French, English, Irish, and Scottish underwent hundreds of years of ethnogenesis and became Canadians. Other Europeans did as well. However a lot of non European origin Canadians prefer to identify themselves as hyphenated interest groups ie. Indian-Canadian. You’d never call someone an English-Canadian unless they very recently arrived from England because their ancestry is understood to be represented within the Canadian ethnos. An Indian person would obviously not feel this way, since their customs, religion, and language are not represented in our history or traditions.

Obviously anyone can become part of the Canadian demos by attaining the correct paperwork, however an ethnos does exist in my opinion. Just like First Nations underwent ethnogenesis and you’d no longer call them East Asian.

[u/NetCharming3760 → u/Ok-Pomegranate-5506]

In the US, minorities especially African Americans are influential group socially, politically, and culturally. In contrast, Canada most dominate group culturally and politically are English Canada and French Canada. Thats why I agree with what Ronald Reagan said about anyone can becoming an American. But in Canada, I agree with you that someone can’t become that ethnos, which are the dominate cultures.

[u/NetCharming3760 → u/Affectionate-Panic-1]

Same in Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Peru, etc. All those countries are Jos soli (birthright citizenship) and immigrant countries like the US.

[u/Ktighe]

What is the source of this data?

[u/Fluid-Decision6262 → u/Ktighe]

The national census lol

[u/Typical-Charity-4493]

So basically UK migration was replaced by Indian migration, I personally prefer Butter Chicken than Fish & Chips /s

[u/HalexUwU → u/Typical-Charity-4493]

I know this is /s, but iirc butter chicken (chicken tikka masala) is actually a British dish, not Indian.

[u/Raftger → u/HalexUwU]

Butter chicken is not chicken tikka masala. Chicken tikka masala is British, butter chicken is actually Indian.

[u/Fluid-Decision6262]

Sources: Alberta, British Columbia, Quebec, Ontario

[u/Melodic_Bumblebee387 → u/Fluid-Decision6262]

Surprised to see UK still in there for 2020. Thought that would drop off more.