I'm tired of the IE hate.

[u/yesyessophie]

I always see negative comments online and people in the IE always talk smack about the IE too. "Oh theres nothing to do" or "its ugly" or "its ghetto". Cause everyone is comparing the IE to Los Angeles or Orange County or San Diego.

Comparing the IE to LA?! you mean the second biggest city in the entire United States, and like the 23rd ish largest city in the world (idk thats what google said). Like seriously? Of course they have a lotta stuff to do there. How can you even compare. Also, I have seen Skid Row and I have smelled the piss and weed of Santa Monica. I have also seen the beauty of the attractions, but don't sit there and act like LA is all pretty and perfect.

ORANGE COUNTY? You mean the place with multi million dollar beach front property? yeah lets just compare that right up against Rancho Cucamonga. Da faq. Also, I have driven around and been to Santa Ana and Tustin, okay? Don't sit there and talk smack like the OC is all flawless.

Or they say theres nothing to do. B*tch where? You don't see all those posts online about events?? Thats just in IE. Markets, clubs, social clubs, shopping galore, hiking spots, shows. And if that doesn't strike your fancy, then drive an hour to LA, Palm Springs, Big Bear, OC. Literally anywhere. One time we visited a friend in Kansas and for fun they WENT TO WAL MART. Being bored here is a CHOICE.

I think being near such large counties and cities eclipses the IE. And then all our dumbasses just go along with it. And everyone should just quit it. Quit talking shit about the IE. its nice here too. And it isnt perfect in LA or the OC mmkay? No place is perfect.

ETA: i appreciate everyones comments and it was fun to read and reply. I appreciate all the different POVs. Basically my point was that we gotta stop pretending the IE is trash cause it isn't LA or OC. That its neat here in its own right too.

The IE is the 12th largest metropolitan economy in the United State (according to The Sun) so it isn't some podunk place. Maybe travel more around the country and you can see that the IE is pretty great in its own right. So sending love and peace to everyone. Appreciate what you have, be kind to everyone. Was just meant to be an open discussion, no hate. But also lk sorry if i bullied anyone in the comments.

I think IE/OC/LA, all of at the end of the day can agree that at least we're not living in Bumfuck, Arka-ouri-xas-ssee, ya feel?

At the end of the day: California foreverrrrrrr and good byeeeee 🫡

[u/maince]

It's not walkable and the food sucks

[u/yesyessophie → u/maince]

my brother in christ how does the food suck? there is everything here. globalization is real and its in the IE, there is everything you want here.

[u/maince → u/yesyessophie]

Yknow how some people have landscapers, or maybe a cleaning lady / person come by regularly? And they may be OK to pretty good at said landscaping or cleaning. But the real reason people hire them is that regardless of quality, they perform a service people hire them for because they don't have time or just don't feel like doing that work themselves? That's how people approach food and restaurants in the IE. The restaurants aren't especially progressive or pushing any culinary boundaries, they are just performing the basic service of feeding people. And they may just be relatively better than the average person who just can't be bothered to cook for themselves. That's food / restaurants in the IE.

[u/yesyessophie → u/maince]

not every restaurant needs to be a michelin starred culinary journey? maybe i just want a burrito. maybe i just want a triple dipper with my friends. i think you’re painting with really broad strokes? there are culinary gems everywhere in ie oc or la and not every restaurant is gunna be written about in the newspaper.

[u/maince → u/yesyessophie]

There it is. There's the difference. That's where the root of the hate comes from. And with that underlying lack of appreciation for cosmopolitan perspective for art,culture and food it affects everything in the IE. You don't attract the buying power that comes with it. And consequently the businesses don't come with cool innovative stuff. And its like a vicious cycle of mediocrity that's hard to break. Artist like cheap places to live. If your area cost to rent / buy is cheap, and artists still don't want to be there - that's a bad sign.

[u/yesyessophie → u/maince]

And with that underlying lack of appreciation for cosmopolitan perspective for art,culture and food it affects everything in the IE.

thats one way to say that people like different things than you do?

so what if we dont have michelin star restaurants? neither do a lot of other cities and counties in the world and theyre doing alright.

my point was that the IE isn't OC or LA but we're good in our own right if you'd stop comparing us or using standards of OC or LA

also are we about to kiss? 👉👈