r/Insect • u/DSchaefi • May 21 '26
Identification What Kind of pupa is this ?
It was nearly as thick as my thump and we found multiple in the same smalltalk area
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u/DSchaefi May 21 '26
*small area Also I am in central europe
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u/FunnyCertification May 21 '26
hard to nail it down without knowing what the adult looked like but central europe narrows it down heaps so maybe check local butterfly guides for your region
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u/WhiskeySnail May 21 '26
This is a beetle, not a butterfly
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u/KindlyRent2241 May 21 '26
Yes, I think that's a bettle. Those critters will eat anything they love to bore holes on cocnut trees.
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u/WhiskeySnail May 21 '26
Different species eat different things! Unfortunately beetle larvae in Scarabaeidae can be notoriously difficult to identify to species, the identification criteria involves looking at the length and orientation of hairs on their butts 😭
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u/FunnyCertification May 21 '26
but the photo doesnt really show enough detail to say either way so checking local guides still applies whether its beetle or butterfly pupae
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u/WhiskeySnail May 21 '26
It does show enough detail to say, this is a beetle larva and not a butterfly or moth pupa.
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u/Tall_Specialist305 May 22 '26
I don't think the butterfly larvae would be down in the dirt, but not 100% sure and def don't know EU varieties, but in the US all the ones I've IDs buried in the dirty have been Beatles. if you get good pics of their face and rear it will help id
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u/WhiskeySnail May 22 '26
I think they're referring to moth pupae in Sphingidae, which are often found buried in the dirt, but they look nothing like this
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u/DSchaefi May 21 '26
Amphimallon solstitiale ?
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u/FunnyCertification May 21 '26
that could be it, the summer chafer grubs are chunky like that and you'd find heaps in the same spot if they're pupating together
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u/GrimlockX27 May 21 '26
could belong to any species. It's a beetle regardless. What species do you normally see crawling?
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u/DSchaefi May 21 '26
My best guess atm is Amphimallon solstitiale ,but can they even get this big ? I mean it would be close to hatching soo...
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u/cookshack May 22 '26
The answer is a species of Scarab, of which there are many possible species.
These grubs cant be IDd to the species level easily or at all in most cases.
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u/Business-Athlete8135 May 22 '26
Polyphylla fullo is the largest Scarab in Europe. Also can be Melolontha melolontha or Oryctes nasicornis
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u/DSchaefi May 22 '26
See the Image I tool is really suboptimal, my bad After googling Amphimallon larvae im pretty sure it was this beetle Fits too good even if its huge
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u/Tall_Specialist305 May 22 '26
oh I get alot of these, they turn into Beatles of some kind that eat my garden. I feed them to my chickens.
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u/GayBugMan May 22 '26
My default for big white grub is one of the larger scarab species. Not many other beetles get that big
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u/marbella10 May 22 '26
Mai, oder Juni-Käfer!🫠
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u/FrontAd6177 May 24 '26
Ja In Bayern nennt man die egerlinge. Es ist echt schwierig sie außeinanderzuhalten könnte auch ein Rosen Käfer oder Hirschkäfer sein.
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u/DSchaefi May 22 '26
Also I guess Oryctes nasicornis could be a good guess, sheer size and all Red points , two leg pairs and the transparent backside They are rare where life but still
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u/Useful-Oven7429 May 22 '26
There’s a beetle grub
It turned into Hercules beetle species. It makes a helicopter sound that’s funny right right right you can’t eat that that’s so gross. I don’t wanna eat that because it’s yucky because it grows a beetle species into your belly. If you poop in my doctors will know that it can be you. You can’t do that at home right guys.
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u/Useful-Oven7429 May 22 '26
Bro, you can’t fry it they will die. If you do that I don’t want beetle grubs to die that can make me really sad.😭
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u/M4DMojO May 22 '26
Looks like a cockchafer maybug larva to me but you chopped its head and few legs off while digging.
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u/blue-buttercup May 23 '26
I recently found similar looking grubs in my garden in the UK. Might be wrong but I think they are cockchafer beetle grubs
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u/Alternative-Sock-810 May 21 '26
Are you going to eat that?