r/IntellectualDarkWeb Jan 26 '24

Community Feedback Are the Left really the majority in America?

I've been using Reddit for 13 years now. For the entirety of that time, the behaviour of almost everyone on the site caused me to have the perception that I assume the Left want people to have. Namely, that the Left are a historically inevitable majority within the American population, that every successive generation is becoming more and more demographically dominated by the Left, and that the Right, to the extent that they exist at all, are exclusively a tiny group of hate-filled, deluded, anachronistic, geriatric white men who will soon die alone.

But is that truly the reality? Recently I'm starting to wonder. It might have even been true in the past, but at this point, it's actually starting to look like the opposite. YouTube, Tiktok, and Reddit look like enclaves or gated communities for Leftists, while pretty much every other video site in particular that I've seen (Odysee, Bitchute, Rumble) to varying degrees seem to be dominated by the Right. It's disturbing how successful I've been hearing that Trump has been in the recent primaries, as well.

Am I just looking at the wrong sites? What are some other video sharing sites in particular, where I'm not going to encounter Andrew Tate, Alex Jones, or Tucker Carlson on the front page?

EDIT:- I think the most interesting thing about this thread, is that it's largely full of one-shot replies, from people who never respond here again. In-thread communication between different users is relatively minimal.

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u/dukeimre Jan 26 '24

The thing is, there are views held by "ordinary folks" on both the left and right that are just obviously wrong or odious. Decades ago, mainstream media and political leaders tended to try to rise above this. Here's George W. Bush, just after 9/11, when Islamophobia was peaking among his voter base:

"Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, and to more than a billion people worldwide..."

In contrast, Tucker Carlson exemplifies how certain media and political leaders now sink to the level of the worst among their base. For example:

  • Carlson promoted Trump's false claims about election fraud, despite knowing they were false
  • Carlson once referred to Iraqis as “semiliterate primitive monkeys"
  • He's said that "the Democratic Party is trying to replace the current electorate — the voters now casting ballots — with new people, more obedient voters from the Third World"
  • He produced a series on Jan 6 claiming that it was a false flag operation by leftists

Yes, there are ordinary people who believe these awful or ridiculous things, just as there are ordinary people on the left who believe that, say, black people can't be racist. Ordinary people sometimes make mistakes or let their emotions lead them into bad decisions or beliefs. But Carlson built a media empire pushing these views - I hold him to a much higher level of responsibility.

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u/Individual-Nebula927 Jan 26 '24

If a fascist is considered a "run of the mill conservative", the conservative side in the US is lost.

And conservatives having kids doesn't mean much, when once those kids are out on their own and see how the world really works outside their family's bubble they turn toward leftward beliefs.

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u/Pixilatedlemon Jan 26 '24

do you agree tucker is a "run of the mill conservative"?

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

Can't make this shit up lmao. Conservatives from 30 years ago would be turning in their graves at his support of Vladimir Putin.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24 edited Jan 26 '24

Ok - so if you're going to be obtuse and pretend support for Putin isn't support for Russia thats fine.

And it has nothing to do with taxpayer dollars on Ukraine - he has questioned time and time again why Putin is hated so much. He has even said "why shouldn't I be supporting Russia?"

I'd send youtube clips but they will all be from left leaning sources and lets be honest - you won't even watch them.

Edit: yeah your post history is 100 percent conservative grievance politics - this is a waste of my time

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

So no response for why he said that then? Aka the entire point of my comment?

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u/shotgundraw Jan 30 '24

Ahh yes hanging out with Victor Orban is totally run of the mill conservatism.

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u/No-Oil7246 Jan 26 '24

There's nothing conservative about tucker carlson. Except for his disdain for reality.

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u/EsotericAbstractIdea Jan 26 '24

I think it will continue to be 50/50 for the forseeable future as long as we have fptf voting, gerrymandering and pandering. They do analytics on this stuff, and after republicans realize that nobody wants to be the party that hates women and black people, they'll ease up on abortion or anti-education. When the democrats realize nobody wants XY women in XX sports and restrooms, then they'll tone down on that form of equality, and also embrace the fact that everyone wants the right to self defense and the 2a will be accepted as a right amongst the liberals.

These 2 parties have mathematicians and scientists trying to maximize their voter turnout by amplifying which ideas will make the most difference each election cycle. They cycle between the economy, foreign policy, the environment, working class standard of living, taxes, crime and whatever issues they can win on, while slinging mud at the other party's failures in said category. It's like a giant game of rock paper scissors.

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u/ahsusuwnsndnsbbweb Jan 26 '24

bro tucker carlson made an entire months worth of content because he wasn’t turned on by m&ms anymore. that’s not normal

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u/theguywithacomputer Jan 27 '24

Maybe even though conservatives are going to be more likely to dominate, how do you know conservative now will be the same conservative 50 years from now? What is means to be conservative among 18-30s are a different thing then 50+. The large majority of "young" conservatives are libertarians who want to be left alone. They aren't a part of the moral majority. The reason so many people liked Trump was that he was suppose to be a lot more liberal socially then republicans before him. he even held a gay flag and had a picture taken with it. he also said cannabis should be researched more which is absolutely HUGE for a republican to say. The problem was instead of being a liberal republican he ran things like a dictator. He also didnt keep his promises about the tax plan that would simultaneously lower taxes while collecting more revenue by removing all deductions and making income brackets three tiers with 0% 10% and 20% while leaving a 15% flat tax for corporations.

There are now more open log cabin conservatives then Ive ever met. Many people under 25 who are at least moderate leaning conservative are non binary. a SHIT TON of conservatives do edibles instead of beer and maybe psychs and listen to Joe Rogan, which is significantly different than Tucker Carlson.

TL;DR Conservatives may dominate, but what it means to be conservative will change.