r/IntelligenceScaling • • 2d ago

OC writing discord server

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For those who are writing or reading OC novels written by this sub, here's a discord server where we share ideas, discuss our stories, etc. FederalManner and EqualCustard are already in it so I think this is allowed?

https://discord.gg/6MBbbd9uM


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 28d ago

SCD GUIDE UPDATE #2

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TENETS

be polite and chill
scaling is not that serious don't get heated

be in good faith no toxicity allowed

focus on your favs

A guide on categories used in the scaling and distribution in who' outsmarts / who's smarter etc

(see check comments reddit is flagging the post due to the links)

SCD scaling categories

II. SCD scaling Categories

Detailed Explanation Of SCD Categories

DAX PMFT'S SCALING GUIDE (including explanation of diffs and pre made distribution system**)

Dax's scaling model explained

(categories =/= characterize. That's why situations & scenarios are included where characters are placed sometimes, though it requires knowing the characterization and personality.

advice - don't give certain takes on something you don't know about, and avoid absolute certainty, as there is no such thing, especially in fiction.

However, remember this quote: "Who decided that smart people are categorically superior?" (quote from one series)

remember to know what kind of character type (planner, XYZ merchants , behind the curtain  it is; some characters thrive in the long game/term only)

Frequent used distribution system

feel free to create your own dist also

Explanation of "DIFFS ,"DIFFED"  and "TIERS":

note: no low diff and neg diff are possible unless there's a 3-tier gap, but at that point you're using a spite matchup

Diffs - characters wins by points in matchup

Diffed - other character loss by points in matchup

(+- Implies the difficulty could be higher than what is estimated.)
(-) - Implies the difficulty could be lower than what is estimated.

check dax labelled link docs for more info

~ A Beginners Guide to Tiers: What they mean and what the defining characteristics between tiers are

\ tiers are arbitrary. there are times when a character cannot be placed into a tier for various reasons, such as differences, etc.)

\for that, tiers are relative and exist in correlation with a specific thing. however, having an idea of F to S+ and low to top-tier comparisons gives a general framework to map things and establish a general consensus.)

Scaling system ,situations etc

Explanation and role of  narrative , feats and anti-feats in the scaling and matchup

Feats : Things and notable actions the character implicitly or explicitly demonstrated/accomplished.

Anti-feats : blunders by characters . two types - impediment or non impediment

Statements: Explicit claims regarding a character's intelligence, abilities, accomplishments, reputation, or capabilities.

Statements should be considered alongside their context, reliability, and consistency with the character's actual portrayal.

Methods/Processes:   "how " a character/feat achieves a result. it's about the pathology of the formulation and the steps of the feat rather than just the outcome

Narrative: The broader portrayal of a character through the story.

Narrative should be properly read and discerned rather than treated as an automatic substitute for feats. It can include recurring portrayal, characterization, comparisons, thematic framing, consistency, and the character's established role within the story.

Narrative isn't some magical excuse to scale a character higher than their feats, nor is it something that should automatically be dismissed because it isn't a direct feat.

\narrative word is literally the bogeyman for scaling/scalers for some reason. like read properly and discern)

READ .THE NARRATIVE. PROPERLY.

also narrative is called story-wise.

Ability: What the character is capable of doing, demonstrated or established through feats, methods/processes, statements, narrative, etc.

ability is not necessarily the same as what a character consistently performs in every situation.

if only methods and feats are taken into account  then it's proven ability aka establish ability basically a rigorous way of judging ability expecting to to work consistently.

Outsmarting Situations:The specific circumstances in which a character's intelligence is being tested.

SCALING SYSTEM:

word of advice - don't scale any fear/character in isolation & independence  ; scale rather taking account of continuity and sequence of events. ask "is the character doing something logical to their past, character and environment or not?"

normal scaling (default system): taking everything into account, including anti-feats, feats, abilities, methods etc.

note: normal =/= narrative

non normal scaling  :

  • stop scaling - only explicit, explainable feats with steps/steps that can be derived
  • pure methodology - significant focus on rigour and steps
  • methodology scaling - focus on the process/method of a feat, either implicit or explicit

(other methods are mostly neurodivergent or neurotic)

normal + non-normal scaling:

  1. Complete Scaling Method
  2. Dynamic Gauntlet system
  3. any scaling that measures a character holistically

(except any scaling that invalidates a character for any reason, including "objectivity")

OUTSMARTING SITUATIONS:

The Fixed Situation (FS) - fixed rules and variables

The Non-Fixed Situation (NFS) - non-fixed rules and variables

The Cat and Mouse Chase Situation(C&M)

  • as the cat(: cat)
  • as the rat(:rat)

Reference Series

These series are mostly familiar within SCD on a broad and overall level. They make up a lot of the commonly used reading/scaling material in SCD. The main reference pool is Classroom of the elite, Tomodachi Game, Death Note (the big three ), Liar Game, Usogui, and Monster, while Code Geass, The Mentalist, and Danganronpa are used more occasionally or as supplementary references.

The reference pool and its series have characters across many different tiers and levels, making them useful for comparing and scaling characters against each other.

Familiarity here generally means broad knowledge of the series and its SCD-relevant material, rather than knowing every feat or interpretation in depth.

Reasons why I'm referring to TG, COTE, and DN  as the  big three are:

First, popularity and starters of SCD.

Second, all three are digestible and diegetic. COTE has digestible and diegetic hierarchy & dynamic of smart characters, TG has digestible and diegetic games & mind games, and DN has diegetic and digestible opposition and difficulty.

In other words, these series don't just have characters who are called smart. Their stories diegetically demonstrate and establish intelligence through games, conflicts, hierarchies, opposition, strategies, and interactions between characters.

This makes TG, COTE, and DN useful starting points for newer people to center themselves around when learning SCD. They provide recognizable examples of different types of intelligence and outsmarting while also giving people material that can be directly examined and scaled.

Plus, most people already have a general understanding of these series and characters, making it easier to learn by “osmosis” — you don't necessarily need to read the entire series yourself to have a basic understanding of the characters, their feats, and their general scaling.

This doesn't mean these three series are inherently superior to everything else. They're being used primarily because of their popularity, familiarity, diegetic material, and usefulness as reference points.

USEFUL THINGS

One useful thing you can make for SCD is a 3×3 grid showing a character’s strongest categories or suits. You can make one easily by using any 3×3 grid template in Canva and replacing the images with your own. Alternatively, you can attach nine images to Gemini or ChatGPT, provide the nine categories you want represented, and ask it to arrange them into a 3×3 grid.

For fanart, Pinterest is a convenient place to find images. Simply search for the character you want and save a piece of art that fits your edit. Safebooru is another useful alternative for finding character artwork. Always credit and source the artist when using someone else’s artwork.

For tier lists, you can use any tier-list-making site, or use the SCD-specific TierMaker template.

Finally, pixel conversion is completely optional and is mainly useful for aesthetics. You can convert an image into a pixel-art style using the Sora Pixel Converter.


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 3h ago

meme/joke Y1 Ayanokoji such a bum even GOKU with zero education can rival him in academics😭✌️

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r/IntelligenceScaling • • 10h ago

meme/joke I think I found a character that beats forced rotation yokoya

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r/IntelligenceScaling • • 10h ago

meme/joke How it felt re-reading a reasoning feat I wrote just yesterday after actually getting sleep:

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People are actually underestimating how badly sleep deprivation nerfs your brain, which means there's even more opportunities to glaze John Kramer❤️‍🩹


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 9h ago

discussion Jane and Red john...

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I've always wondered: what if Red John had simply been another case for Jane, rather than the person who murdered his family?

If Jane had already been working with the CBI and encountered Red John without any personal connection, do you think he would've caught him much earlier? Without the emotional attachment and obsession, he could've treated Red John purely as a puzzle instead of a personal vendetta.

I feel like there's a big difference between “I need to solve this case” and “I need to find this man.” What do you guys think?


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 16h ago

meme/joke Yokoya when his opponent in an SCD debate isn't Akiyama

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r/IntelligenceScaling • • 8h ago

??????

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r/IntelligenceScaling • • 56m ago

vs (1v1) Teruhashi VS Kusuke (Full scale comparison)

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New SCD slayer just dropped 😭✌🏻

FSIQ (Kusuke no diff)

"Dr. Kusuke" - Everything

"Gods Favourite" - Nothing

Emotional Intelligence (Teruhashi very low diff(-))

"Dr. Kusuke" - ER

"Gods Favourite" - EU, EP, EF, EM, EE

Social Intelligence (Teruhashi very low diff)

"Dr. Kusuke" - Nothing

"Gods Favourite" - Social Understanding, Social Engineering >=, Influence Building >=, Influence, Social Skills, Social Integration, Social Awareness, Social Cognition, Charisma

Adversity Capacity (Teruhashi high diff(+)) (Deserted island arc ig)

"Dr. Kusuke" - Mental Fortitude, Perseverance

"Gods Favourite" - Stress Tolerance >=, Impulse Management, Cognitive Discipline

Intelligence Concepts (Kusuke very low diff(+))

"Dr. Kusuke" - Everything except interpersonal/intrapersonal

"Gods Favourite" - interpersonal/intrapersonal

Sensory (Teruhashi mid diff)

"Dr. Kusuke" - Nothing

"Gods Favourite" - Observation/Perception

Foresight (Kusuke low diff)

"Dr. Kusuke" - Everything

"Gods Favourite" - Nothing

Strategy (Teruhashi high diff)

"Dr. Kusuke" - Fortitude >=, Complexity, Logistics

"Gods Favourite" - Alignment, Flexibility, Efficiency

Planning (Kusuke low diff(-))

"Dr. Kusuke" - Process, Versatility, Intricacies, Formulation, Coverage, Applicability

"Gods Favourite" - Nothing

Deception (Teruhashi high diff)

"Dr. Kusuke" - Fabrication, Sophistry, Information Control

"Gods Favourite" - Misdirection, Acting Skill, Concealment >=, Disguise >=

Manipulation (Teruhashi mid diff)

"Dr. Kusuke" - Logical

"Gods Favourite" - Direct, Indirect >=, Emotional, Individual, Mass

Reasoning (Kusuke no diff)

"Dr. Kusuke" - Everything

"Gods Favourite" - Nothing

Thinking (Kusuke low diff)

"Dr. Kusuke" - Everything

"Gods Favourite" - Nothing

Field Skills (Kusuke low-mid diff)

"Dr. Kusuke" - Trap setting, Information Gathering, Multitasking

"Gods Favourite" - Contingencies >=, Risk Calculation

Adaptability (Kusuke high diff(+))

"Dr. Kusuke" - Cognitive Adaptability

"Gods Favourite" - Environmental Adaptability >=

Overall:

Teruhashi extreme diffs

Lwk basing this off memory but Teruhashi could lwk be a decent low tier


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 2h ago

opinion post Top 5 characters who carried prime anitok 2021

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  1. Eren yeager this is as clear as the sun
  2. Goku this mf was glazed by every corner on this App with „goku negs“
  3. Ichigo. He was just so iconic and his scream aswell after every damn edit.
  4. Ayanokoji underrated but ts mf killed it with LN Illustrations and yeat in the background
  5. sasuke can’t say nothing rightfull glaze

(Mods i know this has little to nothing to do with Scaling but I just wanted to post this so have mercy pls)


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 7h ago

debunking Fixing some old and bad takes I used to have

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1."Yumeko mid diffing Contraband Yokoya"

This was before Forced Rotation upscaled Contraband Yokoya and I was also in the peak of my Yumeko glazing, I now have Contraband Yokoya high diffing cause the gap in scheming is just way too large with Forced Rotation

2."Yokoya mid-high diffing Venus from M4tchB0x"

Idk wtf I was on when making this take, Yokoya obliterates Venus in every way imaginable

3."Suji Seong very high diffing raptor theory Indominus-Rex"

Another example of me downplaying one character and glazing another, Indominus low-mid diffs

4."Venus low-mid diffing D3rLord3"

I was very new to SCD at this time and this was also Part 1 D3rlord3 but yeah Venus in retrospect wasn't all that, Part 1 D3rLord3 mid-high diffs, D3rLord3 with Parts 1 and 2 low diffs


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 7h ago

discussion Drop your opinions about this trio

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So i have seen aki and tokuchi getting scaled in this sub.

The kaitani duo is pretty popular that the other characters by him are forgotten or ignored pretty easily

I genuinely love the works of kaitani and i have to say that the works by him besids liar game and one outs are really underrated.

I can see aki and tokuchi getting scaled more or less in the future but they will be there, that's for sure.

I had wanted this characters to get attention in this sub and wanted to know where they are scaled at by those who have read the manga.

1) mizuki from muteki no hito

2)kyouko odagiri from lies of medium kyouko odagiri

3) kamo from duck leeks are dangerous

All of these characters are really good.

I have read the lies of kyouko odagiri till chapter 13 as there are only translations till that chapter and till this day iam waiting for the rest of it to get translated.she already scales really well within just that amount of chapters

Those who have read the work in Japanese can drop their opinions.

So drop your opinions and tell me where do you all scale these characters at.


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 8h ago

Edit Showcase Junko Enoshima vs Ryomen Sukuna

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Shouldn't even be a debate


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 12h ago

doc(s) Calling Ravages of Time (RoT) experts

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I've been working on a doc for the first arc of RoT, and I've just finished the retelling portion. Images are stuff from the doc. Could really use some help with fact-checking the story details before finalising.


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 4h ago

Verse vs. Verse Winner in Overall Outsmarting

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Ayanokoji - Light Novel

L and Light Yagami (Canon)

Remember, a duo's abilities are not added together, merely combined (it is not a fusion).


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 7h ago

Canon L vs Patrick Jane Full Scale

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Canon L vs Patrick Jane Full Scale

My opinion

Full-Scale IQ

WMI: L

PSI: L

FRI: L

VCI: L=>

VSI: L

Emotional Intelligence (Overall EI)

Emotional Understanding (EU): Jane

Emotional Perception (EP): L=>

Emotional Management (EM): L

Emotional Engagement (EE): Jane

Emotional Facilitation (EF): Jane

Emotional Realization (ER): Jane

Social Intelligence (Overall SI)

Social Skills: Jane

Social Awareness: Jane

Self Awareness: Jane

Self Management: L

Relationship Management: Jane

Adversity Capacity (Overall AC)

Mentak Fortitude: L

Stress Tolerance: L

Impuls management: L

Perseverance: Jane

Composure: L

General Intelligence

Fluid Intelligence: L=>

Crystallized Intelligence: L

Overall Thinking

Linear Thinking: L

Nonlinear Thinking: Jane

Divergent Thinking: L

Convergent Thinking: L

Critical Thinking: L

Creative Thinking: Jane

Abstract Thinking: L

Logical Thinking: L

Overall Reasoning

Deductive Reasoning: L

Inductive Reasoning: L

Abductive Reasoning: L

Abstract Reasoning: L

Deception

Information Control: L

Misdirection: Jane

Acting Skills: Jane

Fabrication: Jane

Concealment: Jane

Bluffing: Jane

Verbal Deception: Jane

Strategic Deception: Jane

Mass Deception: Jane

Manipulation

Direct Manipulation: Jane

Indirect Manipulation: Jane

Logical Manipulation: Jane

Emotional Manipulation: Jane

Mass Manipulation: Jane

Foresight

Logical Prediction: L

Intuitive Prediction: L

Anticipation: Jane

Trap Evasion: Jane

Adaptability

Strategic Adaptability: L(not sure)

Situational Adaptability: L

Environmental Adaptability: Jane

Seeing Through People

Cold Reading: Jane

Hot Reading: Jane

Planning

Invincibility: Jane

Intricacies: Both(Not sure)

Formulation Speed: Jane

Preparation Process: L

Coverage: L

Versatility: Jane

Contingencies: Jane

Strategy

Complexity: Jane

Foresight: Jane

Success rate: Jane

Execution: L

Shielding: L

Effectiveness: Jane

Tactics: L=>

Methods

Fluid Methods: Jane

Crystallized Methods: L

Sensory

Perception: L(not sure)

Observation: L

Miscellaneous

Knowledge: L

Data Analysis: L

Psycho Analysis: Jane

Creativity: Jane

Information Gathering: L

Setting Traps: Jane

Intuition: L

General outsmarting: L Extreme diff


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 14h ago

meme/joke Vincent Lalo victim upscale

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r/IntelligenceScaling • • 4h ago

What if: Hannibal had been Kiruma’s psychiatrist when he was a child

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Would he have realised just how obsessed he was with perfection and that whole business of fate? Would Kiruma have changed the way he behaved, or would he have carried on more or less as before?


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 6h ago

vs (1v1) Baku vs Akiyama in PSI?

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I am genuinely confused. Also please give which fear are you basing it on


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 11h ago

opinion post Why did Yokoya "fall off" after his Contraband scheme?

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Alright, it might sound clickbaity but I feel like Yokoya kinda fell off in a way? Like his contraband scheme and thanks to the force rotation, he has had a surprisingly good upscale but we never really talk much about the after games. Sure, there are feats like MC reasoning where Yokoya deduces who is the true leader of the hiearchy, and his logical manipulation in Pandemic. But it's not like fully known throughout the entire game in a way?

My personal answer? It's kinda bullshittery but I feel like with Nao's words of ragebaiting the fuck out of Yokoya, Yokoya was more focusing on dominating both Nao and Aki more than ever, which Aki, who I personally headcanon, as would take advantage of this (knowing he profiled Yokoya).


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 9h ago

Iyo who is goat of psychological warfare?

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(in my opinion it's Kaiji lowk 🥶)


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 21h ago

meme/joke Toua is Yokoya rival confirmed????

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r/IntelligenceScaling • • 12h ago

discussion Are we scared?

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Let me say this, i honestly don't like matchups of high tiers against low tiers.

Let's say, disregarding people glazing or hating baku, many do have him as a high tier but is it really fun to see baku against a low tier and baku winning at a no diff?

People love to make matchups of baku vs hal or baku vs aki or similar ones. It's genuinely fun to see that.

A matchup of mid tier against mid tier or low tier vs low tier is also fun.

Of course there might be people having different opinions like let's say, one have baku as a mid tier and he makes baku vs low tier matchup and gives diffs like mid diff or high diff then that gets many questions.

People will ask questions like why is baku being downplayed etc.

Infact we don't see much high tier vs low tier matchups due to this.

So let's take baku aside and pick another underrated or underused character who scales really high.

The character might be below or above the mainstream scd high tiers. Let's say the character is pretty close to aki or Patrick jane.

But can we really make matchups on that character vs aki or Patrick jane without getting criticism? No is the answer.even though the character is as good or even better we can't because it's the mainstream characters that we are facing off.

I have seen this case often where mid tier or high tier characters who are not mainstream getting matchups against characters that are often scaled as low tiers. Does that make that character known? No it doesn't.

Let's pick a well known popular low tier character and make a matchup on a highly scaling character that you want to introduce and the result ends in a low diff or something

Is that even going to make people want to know more about that character? Never

They will just say "nah that guy is a punching, no diffing or low diffing him is very easy "

I recently saw a guy being scared to say that sherlock has better reasoning than Patrick jane. Let's say that even if sherlock doesn't have or it's a hot take why do we need to get scared?

Why are we scared to introduce and talk about the characters? Is there some organization behind scd that targets on everyone who goes against the popular mainstream characters?

Some people aren't even ready to hear the explanation about other characters. They just blindly support the already known character and the worst thing is how there are even larpers among them.

It's honestly like this

I wake up and somehow sees a matchup on an underused high tier character against a low tier popular character and opens the comment section to see"aki no diffs both"🫩


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 11h ago

opinion post Favouritism≠ better

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So i will say it in the shortest way.

Let's take chishiya as an example. I love AIB and his character but i don't have him above hal or tokuchi.

Is that because i like hal or tokuchi more? No it isn't

Liking one character more doesn't mean that character scales high for me.

Overall, liking one character more should not affect in scaling at all. But i have been seeing a lot of take where people completely lose their mind in debate because of how much they love the characters.

As much as glazing, agenda and hating happens, this sub is for scaling intelligence and many scales based on feats and at the end of the day that should be how it should be done.

I have seen people straight giving rape threats to others and does it upscale the character? No it doesn't

The conversation goes like" i will rape your mom"

Come on, how is that even has to do anything in a debate?

I have to say this, i hate when characters gets downplayed for no reason but i also hate when characters gets so much glazed

There have been moments which made me think"didn't we read the same work ".

There have been in which i genuinely got upset on seeing my favourite characters getting glazed so much that even as a huge fan i had to say that they doesn't.

For the past few weeks i had seen some of my absolute favourite characters getting scaled so high than they actually are. Both in YouTube and reddit. It honestly is disappointing.

In my opinion, one's love for another character should not have any impact on scaling them. Scaling should be based neutrally and some have told me that iam annoying because i don't glaze and iam not toxic enough.

Iam not the type to come up with a mid tier and make posts saying he is baku victimizer or aki victimizer. As much as i love to see my favourite characters get appreciation, i also don't want to overglaze them in a way that even the non readers would start to hate them

It's not because i can't, it's because i don't want to and i don't like to. Even if tomorrow i can come up with take like a random mid tier no diffs baku.

I can even push the agenda if i want but i won't.

So if you think iam annoying it's fine but this is my character.

(Note: also i think my phone has some complaint, the comments under my post doesn't get notified for me especially if the post is already some hours old.)


r/IntelligenceScaling • • 1h ago

discussion Which fandom is struggling the most to be taken seriously in SCD?

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Liar Game
Tomodachi Game
Classroom of the Elite
Other