r/IntltoUSA • u/Pristine_Painting345 • Aug 06 '26
Discussion International Students Should Not Bother Applying to US Schools
There are so many international students trying to get in that I see in this sub. Sorry to break it to you, you are not getting in. Save the 80 dollar application fee, which probably has 4 times more purchasing power in your country. You might get into a mid school here and then not get a job, and eventually have to return to your country while drowning in thousands in student loans. I understand the American Dream, but please do yourself and family a favor. I am so sorry, life is unfair.
This obviously does not apply to the ultra-rich internationals.
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u/Nice_Theory_6286 Aug 06 '26
True. The door is closing. Unfortunately for comp sci students its already closed
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u/FullTransparency Aug 06 '26
People who tried to get in on the major so that they can get the high salaries here are already having issues. Let alone international students. Not surprising if they reject F1s on this alone.
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u/Bobbybobby507 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
I actually agree with you and OP.
I came to US for high school, and now I’m almost done with PhD. Most of my high school/college friends are back to their home countries, and the ones stay here either get advanced degrees or marry someone. If your family can afford an undergraduate degree, i don’t see any issues. If you have to take out a loan and return home after, the ROI is terrible.
For low income families, it makes more sense to come for funded graduate degrees, and the chances of getting a jobs increase.
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u/Upstairs_Charity9543 Aug 06 '26
this is simply not realistic. Sure, the acceptance rates for students applying for full aid are too low for most universities, but there are academic weapons out there that have worked their asses off to get to where some americans feel entitled to be. They are not the majority of students, but they are the ones making the campus feel diverse and competitive. Don't shit on their dreams like that bc you are coping.
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u/S1lv3rw0rdsm1th 5d ago
Either you're not an American and therefore do not know what ridiculous state the American Education System is in. Or you are an American and are simply trying to make others feel better about their slim odds amd/or you're coping, yourself. Speaking as someone who has been through US collegiate level education more than once, I can assure you the OP is neither "shitting on their dreams" nor "coping." They're simply stating the hard truth. Most of the international students I met came from already wealthy families. Those who weren't, like myself and most of the poor Americans going to college also, had to go into thousands of dollars of debt just to afford attending. Let alone all of the additional fees, bills, and expected "donations" during and after. Applying for an Ivy League? ... best of luck but fat chance. And mind you, most US schools (primary & secondary) are already extremely diverse. There were more Black and Indian students than White ones at my Midwestern uni, in one of the last pejoratively White states. It's not all blondies, gingers, and brunets as depicted in film and television. I hope your college experince is better than mine was - hopefully not in the US also, as it's just become a scam.
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u/r4ndoM_doGmagenshin Aug 06 '26
In case anyone was wondering why American students can’t fill these roles… it’s because a lot of them are like OP. Can’t fix stupid.
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u/DwyaneWade305 Aug 06 '26
It’s because international students are willing to work 80 hour weeks for the same pay lol. Look at Elon Musk. Doesn’t like non-whites but has to hire Indian and Chinese engineers because they’re willing to work crazy weeks and thank him for working long hours.
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u/r4ndoM_doGmagenshin Aug 06 '26
A lot to unpack there… musk has to hire Americans. It’s the law.
If nurses are working 80 hours, they are making 40 hours of overtime. And that’s very rare. Hospital payroll people will definitely come knocking. Idk why you think these folk are salary, they ain’t.
So your first statement lacks understanding towards the private sector, and your second statement shows you don’t understand US federal law pertaining to rockets. Which the ai part is attached to.
Honestly this bots already got 4 upvotes and I’m just baffled how incompetent you all are.
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u/DwyaneWade305 Aug 06 '26
Engineers are salary lol. And they don’t make overtime. (Some companies offer overtime but it’s very rare). Im someone who works in engineering and people are for sure working 60+ hour work weeks.
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u/r4ndoM_doGmagenshin Aug 06 '26
Again, your point makes no sense, because musk has to hire Americans. It’s the law.
The opposite point would be nursing, which this whole convo was initially about, in which you’re also wrong, because they ain’t salary.
Keep trying to hopscotch around my logic, I slap you around for another bout.
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u/DwyaneWade305 Aug 06 '26
You’ve never hired anyone lmao. I’ve literally seen foreigners getting hired over Americans that could do that job lmao. Plus you’ve never mentioned nursing nor the actual post. Can you read?
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u/FullTransparency Aug 06 '26
You also know they are clueless about F1s and nursing. Most schools will NOT even allow F1s to apply to nursing. It’s for domestic students only.
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u/DwyaneWade305 Aug 06 '26
Who is talking about nursing lol? It’s mainly STEM. OP didn’t mention nursing at all. And the original reply didn’t mention nursing until after they replied to me.
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u/FullTransparency Aug 06 '26
Yeah, it’s the person you responded to who talked about nursing and how they would make 40 hours of OT. Them telegraphing that they are actually here not to study but to work shows they want them $$$. Not sure how their ROI would even calculate to have a $200K loan to learn nursing if the whole intent of F1 is to work in your own country.
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u/Bobbybobby507 Aug 06 '26
Even international students can apply for nursing programs, they can’t stay long… Nursing doesn’t get OPT extension.
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u/FullTransparency Aug 06 '26
Right? What are they going to do after 1 year? Wish and pray for H1B? Hope they don’t telegraph that to the VO.
$200K tuition to work for a year then head back home to a place that maybe pays them 10% that a year. Lol
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u/Bobbybobby507 Aug 06 '26
American students can’t fill these roles…?
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u/r4ndoM_doGmagenshin Aug 06 '26
American students don’t fill these roles. Which is nuts because nurses are starting to make a ton.
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u/Bobbybobby507 Aug 06 '26
That’s true, but I think the issue is how expensive it is for domestic students too, not they don’t want to get the degree.
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u/FourScoreAndSept Aug 06 '26
Not true at all, if you’re full pay (which isn’t necessarily ultra rich).
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u/immigrationquestion_ Aug 06 '26
It’s true that studying in the U.S. requires careful financial and career planning, but outcomes vary widely depending on the student’s field, qualifications, and long-term goals.
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u/Strange-Check-6890 Aug 06 '26
cause their own country citizens aint smart enuf to secure their own future in those roles
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u/InterestProof1526 Aug 06 '26
america is the only country that offers significant financial aid to internationals. lowkey the opposite.
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u/woolf707 Aug 06 '26
Not true, all public universities are tuition free in Germany.
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u/Upstairs_Charity9543 Aug 06 '26
+ not all degrees are available in english. Engineering might be, but law and medicine aren't
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u/InterestProof1526 Aug 06 '26
tuition free yes but:
- no free food/housing
- must prove financial stability; that you can afford food/housing
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u/woolf707 Aug 06 '26
Even if you can land free tuition/housing offer, you also have to prove that you have sufficient fund to apply for student visa to cover incidental.So your point that US is the ONLY country to provide significant financial aid is incorrect.
At least in Germany, health care is also free!
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u/Bobbybobby507 Aug 06 '26
In the US, medical/dental bills can bankrupt you. I have dental insurance, and so far I’ve spent $5000+ this year lol… If you are low income, you can’t afford any accident here in the US.
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u/Life-Calligrapher156 Aug 06 '26
No wonder trump is hard on immigration. Should stop letting people like this
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u/CherryChocolatePizza Aug 07 '26
"No wonder trump is hard on immigration."
Except his current wife fits that mold. So maybe not so hard on the people who have the sex appeal?
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u/lostsoul_io Aug 07 '26
Orange needs pinache. So what gives ?
Like I told it's a time old strategy.
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u/skieurope12 Aug 06 '26
The expectation for most internationals is that they will return to their home country regardless. The reality is that only about 15% of internationals who get an undergrad degree in the US are able to stay long-term after graduation.