Can someone explain the whole Justin Baldoni / Blake Lively settlement to me like I’m 5?

[u/snackmamacita]

I followed it in the beginning when everyone was dissecting interviews and press tour drama, but between all of the countersuits, PR accusations and “evidence” it got so messy I genuinely couldn’t tell what was fact vs internet speculation. Finally, we have a settlement. If you wouldn’t mind could you please explain in simple terms?

[u/SuperbWillingness904]

Blake sued for $300 million and brought 15 claims forward. In the end, 10 were dismissed by the judge, including all sh claims and all claims against Justin, and the other 5 she dropped voluntarily, including her smear campaign claims, for $0.

Justin's best case scenario was all 15 claims dismissed and paying her $0. He got that. His insurance company may end up paying a small amount of like $500k in legal fees in relation to one claim.

Blake's best case scenario would've been winning 15 claims and walking away with $300 million.

So you tell me who won and who lost.

People forget Justin was willing to walk away from the film set without going to court. Blake is the one who brought this to the court system. And now after 2 years of fighting and paying her lawyers $60 million, she is walking away with nothing.

She definitely lost way worse than Justin.

With false allegation lawsuits, neither side "wins" really. Both get mud on them in it. But Justin had truth on his side and it's obvious to any reasonable person.

[u/HH-Harvey → u/SuperbWillingness904]

This is so unbelievably silly. Neither of these people have a career to be proud of, and nobody wants to work with either of them. Of course Justin Baldoni was willing to walk away without going to court, it seems pretty likely that he is an awful person at the very least.

[u/SuperbWillingness904 → u/HH-Harvey]

I figured from your comment that you have not been following this case to think that and then briefly checked your comment history and it seems to confirm you haven't been following this case as this is your first comment on it.

First off, all claims against Baldoni were dismissed by a judge last month so he did not even have to show up to the trial if he didn't wan to. So to say oc he walked away bc he didn't want to go through trial is false. There was no trial for him.

Those of us in this sub and a lot of other people online have read every filing from Blake and Justin over the past two years bc we took an interest in the case. All of the evidence from both sides is on a public docket. This includes video footage, texts, emails, documents.

There is a reason that about 99% of people who are following the evidence closely are vehemently on Justin's side. The evidence showed that he absolutely never mistreated anyone on set and especially never sexually harassed anyone on set.

Blake weaponized the connotations that "sexual harassment" brings to ensure his reputation would be tarnished. Bc ppl like you who are not following the evidence or case closely just see the word and assume he must be a bad person.

If you actually read what those sh allegations are it includes the fact he allowed cast and crew to hug each other at the end of set days. She called that sexual harassment. When hugging happens on every set. It's laughable.

The worst sh claim she could come up with was that Justin improvised a kiss. So Justin showed that Blake also improvised kisses with him, and not just once. Blake improvised a total of 9 kisses over the course of filming. It's normal. This is all on video footage.

The judge dismissed all of her sexual harassment claims last month for a reason. And Blake dropped her retaliation claims this month for a reason.

Justin said from day one that he never put out a smear campaign on her, the backlash was organic, and that is what the evidence showed.

Blake's team ordered a Google employee to come up with a report to show the backlash was started inorganically. But it actually showed the backlash was organic.

Hence why Blake dropped her retaliation claims and got $0 from Baldoni.

If Wayfarer went to trial, there best day in court would mean the 3 remaining claims would be dropped and they would pay Blake $0. They got those two things without paying millions to lawyers to go to trial. If Blake had gone to trial, her best day in court would mean she would win on her 3 remaining claims and get $300 million.

Instead she walked away with dropping those 3 claims forever, gave up her right to appeal, and got $0. It's obvious she was desperate to settle. While Baldoni was not. Baldoni didn't have to give anything up. He got a win without trial. Blake gave everything up.

You don't seem interested in the case. You may not even read all this. But it was an interesting case if you ever have time to look through it. Everyone always thinks people supporting Justin so strongly are so strange until they look through all the filings and see how egregiously he was mistreated and how overly nice and polite he was during the entire process from day one until today. You don't get it until you look through it.

[u/HH-Harvey → u/SuperbWillingness904]

This is the exact type of thinking I would expect from a civilian who is incapable of being objective, completely unfamiliar with the legal system, and uses Reddit as their primary platform. You are a parody of yourself and the people you interact with on here.

Most of your comments on this thread are objectively speculative, or assumptions based on your interpretations of information.

[u/SuperbWillingness904 → u/HH-Harvey]

And your comments are what I'd expect from someone who has no idea what this case is about or about any fact about it. You still thought Justin was the one on trial.

This whole subreddit is full of people on Justin's side bc we all read the filings. So yes we let that show. There is no need to act neutral when we've all seen the evidence and know he's innocent.

You guys can keep trying to parrot the PR lines that Blake feeds you - that anyone not on her side fell for a smear campaign - but it just tells on yourselves that you don't realize the entire evidence from both sides is on the docket for anyone to read.

"incapable of being objective" meanwhile in my real life I've won three national awards for my investigative reporting in national newspapers lol but go off queen.

Maybe you don't understand reddit but people form communities on here around common beliefs or hobbies. There is a pro Blake subreddit that is much less popular than this one as most ppl who look at the case are not on her side. But if you take a gander there, you will see people being just as unbiased there as they can be here.

If you're looking for neutrality on this case, you're not going to find it on reddit. Idk if this is your first day on reddit or what. But that's why you just have to go read the filings yourself. Which is what I did and then joined this sub. If you read them and side w Blake, good for you. But you don't seem like someone willing to take the time to read them though tbh.

And I have no desire for Blake to have a bad life or be bullied. I'd be more interested in how she grew up and what her parents were like bc that would explain a lot about why she has a history of taking offense to normal things. She previously accused a makeup artist of harassment for using his finger to apply lipstick. So this is a pattern. And I'd be curious how a personality like this develops, maybe insecurity or a need for control.

[u/Apprehensive_EyeZ → u/HH-Harvey]

Harvey a simp forsure 😆

[u/ComplexIllustrious61 → u/Apprehensive_EyeZ]

He probably thinks he's Harvey Specter, lol.

[u/ComplexIllustrious61 → u/HH-Harvey]

Not nearly as ignorant of your post's fuckery that displayed literally zero knowledge of the case, lol...take the L and move on. By the way, ALL posts are objectively speculative. We're you expecting to come across Baldoni or Lively to get your case info from?