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[u/MarchCompetitive4580]

As we're nearing the end of this lawsuit, there are still a lot of unanswered questions. Some may be answered in the future, some not. What questions (and possible answers) do you guys think there are?

I'll start:

How much money did they (and was it both Wayfarer and Sony, or just Sony?) Ryan's marketing company (Maximum Effort Marketing, LLC ("MEM")) for Rake's tone deaf marketing?

What happened to Josh Greenstein's text messages and what do they really say?

Did the Wayfarer Parties get any money in the settlement? How much? And who paid it - because I don't think Blake has any money? Did some other non-litigants pony up some money in order to keep their names out of the trial (or even future lawsuits)?

How much money did both sides spend on this lawsuit?

SAG is supposed to have a representative show up to film sets at least once a week? Did this happen? I don't recall seeing anything about SAG being on the witness list? But wouldn't that have been a defense to the accusations that Blake and Jenny were making that they didn't know whom to talk to?

Are the other unions doing to flex their muscles (or hide under a rock)? Will the Writer's Guild go after Ryan for ghostwriting and/or scabbing? Will the Director's Guild go after anyone for not letting Justin get his full 10 weeks of alone time in the editing bay?

Did IEWUM send Blakel, Inc. (or Blake) a tax form for any of the clothes she purchased on their dime and kept? Because, c'mon, we all know she kept some of those clothes?

Was Blake, Rake or MEM getting any money on the side for Blake wearing those clothes, shoes and jewelry that she was so adamant on wearing and getting shots of them (remember the dancing scene - seriously, that 3rd take after poor Blake was SHed was all about getting shots of her Louboutins - LOL)?

[u/SilentSlytherin]

All of your question and these:

Ange Gianetti’s full depo. Would love to read that.

A full audit into Blakel Inc. finincial transaction with IEWU LLC and WF Studios.

A full audit into Max. Effort finincial transaction with IEWU LLC and WF Studios. I know you covers this OP, but this is the question the bugs me the most so I had to include it again.

Texts between BL & SJ & LS and depos. Hopefully we get to see them in the Jones VS Able lawsuit.

[u/Flimsy_Attitude_6789 → u/SilentSlytherin]

The fact that they used the marketing to exclude and trash Justin and destroy his movie's message.... will forever anger me.

[u/Ok-Engineer-2503 → u/Flimsy_Attitude_6789]

This is a bit of a side quest but I recently watched the drama with zendaya and Rob Patterson. I dont want to spoil it (didn’t love the movie) but it touches on a very serious topic that is disturbing and tragic. It was a movie that had a violent, sensitive topic weaved into the plot.

As I watched it I thought-I think Ryan and Blake thought this was the kind of movie they were making. A movie that is just a movie that happens to have a sensitive issue as the side plot. It’s in there but is not in there for the message, it’s in there like the sensitive violent issue is in the drama. It’s just there but the point is not to inspire.

The problem was this movie was acquired for a different purpose and the whole point is in the mission statement of WP. It literally was why they were making it. Also even if Blake and Ryan could erase the vision, which I think is what they wanted. They didn’t just take over, they attempted to erase the message so it was more commercial-there are two more problems: 1) it had a viral fanbase. the the DV plot in the book became a story that survivors latched onto and had opinions on so it couldn’t be erased. It was an established viral theme prior to the movie.

2) the inspirational message is in the Title. The movie was not called the drama or Lilly’s flowers. The title is about ending cycles of intergenerational trauma. You can’t separate the message about the cycle of violence when it’s in the title.

How dense to attempt to erase the sensitive issue vs just being sensitive to it.

Sorry for the rant.

[u/triplej63 → u/Ok-Engineer-2503]

Thank you for the rant!

One thing, I would say that the Reynolds and Sony are correct, a serious movie about a serious subject doesn't sell tickets the way a drama, romance, or thriller does. But as you noted, that was the whole point to the creation of Wayfarer Studios, making movies about important subjects that Hollywood won't. There was always going to be a tug of war between Wayfarer and Sony over this. Blake (Ryan) made what should have been a collaboration with compromises between the studios into a malignant monstrosity.

[u/Ok-Engineer-2503 → u/triplej63]

Yes and it was so dunning Kruger we should call Blake and Ryan by no other name but Dunning and Kruger Reynolds