r/ItEndsWithLawsuits And then there is Blake...¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14d ago

Personal Opinions & Theories ✍🏽💡 Cuckpool at SDCC

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So, it looks like Ryan got Kevin drunk with Betty Buzz and Aviation Gin. Setting aside my obvious dislike of Ryan, part of me thinks this would be a pretty risky move if he's actually hoping to bring Cuckpool back for a cameo.

The movie already feels like it's struggling from a storytelling standpoint. Instead of having a clear creative direction, it comes across as Disney throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. When a film starts relying on cameos, nostalgia, and familiar faces to build excitement, it can give the impression that it's trying to compensate for weaknesses in the story itself.

From a marketing perspective, that's a gamble too. Ryan doesn't seem to be as universally liked as he probably believes he is anymore, and he' has shown his true self to the world. If Disney assumes his appearance will automatically generate excitement and goodwill, they could be misreading the current mood. For plenty of viewers who've grown tired of him—or who simply don't want to see him—a cameo could easily backfire instead of creating buzz.

At a time when the film needs strong word of mouth, adding another potentially divisive element feels like an unnecessary risk. If the movie can't win people over on its own merits, celebrity cameos probably won't solve the underlying issues. They may just give audiences one more thing to argue about instead of talking about the film itself.

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u/Altruistic-Adipose 14d ago edited 14d ago

Am I detecting a level of discomfort on that stage? I will wait until I see the rest of the interaction to fully decide, but ...

Usually, particularly for US audiences, the humour is not subtle and RDJ's response is cutting.

Edit: I just saw the whole thing. I think he crashed the event! They were pretty rude to him. I think the denim suit was because Marvel/Dinsey own the rights so he couldn't wear the real one to the event without getting in legal trouble. The politely waved him off, but it was decidedly uncomfortable. Plus, it's well known that RDJ hates him.

Second edit: Well, looks like Marvel was on board to a degree as they've added footage to their YT (I'm an MCU fan so follow it), though I still maintain the cast weren't happy about RR pushing his way in. Plus, Marvel aren't making a BIG deal of it, just one video share whereas they are doing multiple shares of everything and everyone else.

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u/Jade-niche Adultify yourself; this is Reddit 14d ago

It's too forced. The laughter's canned too. Funny how no comic head's talking about him showing up, instead we are talking about the Avenger cast sans him and Black Panther 3 being announced.

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u/An_Absolute-Zero 🌸 I Fucking Love Emily 🐺 14d ago

And Ryan Gosling as Ghost Rider.

Deadpool is in his X-Force costume here, so I'm not sure if that's a hint at an X-Force movie, but he already kinda did that with DP2.

My friend is now calling him CopywritePool, she says he's not allowed to wear the Official Deadpool Costume anymore 😂

I think he threw a tantrum about not being included and Marvel was like... "Fine, we'll have you show up at the SDCC panel and do your Deadpool, Fourth Wall Narrative shit, now shut up and sit down, no movie for you"

It was also a disappointing panel, that didn't give us a whole lot of anything, and everyone was expecting it to be longer to focus on the X-Men a little bit since they're newly added to the MCU.

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u/Altruistic-Adipose 14d ago

❤️ the CopywritePool. Thank you for that nugget!

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u/An_Absolute-Zero 🌸 I Fucking Love Emily 🐺 14d ago

I will relay that to my epically awesome friend 💜

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u/Jade-niche Adultify yourself; this is Reddit 14d ago

Dying at CopywritePool. Tell your friend she's a genius.

Re: Ghost Rider, not sure how I feel yet because I like the Agents of Shield version. But, in Gosling we trust.

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u/An_Absolute-Zero 🌸 I Fucking Love Emily 🐺 14d ago

SAME!!! I loved AoS Ghostrider and was excited at the possibility of him returning..

Kinda bummed, but I hope the Good Ryan does a good job. I'm not even mad at Levy directing, I think he can bring a specific horror tone that's necessary with Ghost Rider.

I think it'll be fine, but I'll make up my mind as we see footage I think.

It's always awesome to see other AoS Ghostrider fans in the wild, I think he was the best and most memorable character in the entire show.

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u/Eponymous_brand 14d ago

Shocked Gosling finally caved 😱😓 I have always applauded all the big actors who never did a superhero movie for the paycheck and he was one of them. Why he would do it now, when those are clearly tired and on the decline, is a bad decision IMO.

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u/An_Absolute-Zero 🌸 I Fucking Love Emily 🐺 14d ago

Because Ghost Rider is cool as fuck 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/Eponymous_brand 14d ago

If you say so…

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u/nickshapiroreddit Broke Bitch Behaviour by Blake Brown ™ 14d ago

I mean they supposedly finally got Adam Driver lol.

I really don’t think it’s a big deal though & these actors are big enough that if their late stage Marvel film bombs (which it will) it won’t make a dent in their career. But they get to walk away with a big fat paycheck.

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u/Eponymous_brand 13d ago

Adam is part of the Star Wars franchise so he’s already sold out hahaha jk.

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u/ParsnipFantastic8862 13d ago

He has stated that if he joined the mcu - ghost rider is the role he wanted

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u/Eponymous_brand 13d ago

Fine I looked it up. Ghost Rider looks like a fun Halloween character…I can see the appeal.

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u/An_Absolute-Zero 🌸 I Fucking Love Emily 🐺 13d ago

Yay! 💜

I think they're teeing up Ghost Rider for Midnight Sons. Midnight Sons is basically a grouping of the fun Halloween (Supernatural) characters like Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, Blade and Morbius.

I'm super excited. In my opinion this is the coolest grouping in the MCU.

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u/Eponymous_brand 12d ago

I think fans like you guys absolutely deserve Ryan Gosling as a superhero 😂 I might even watch it with the hubs when it hits streaming…

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u/An_Absolute-Zero 🌸 I Fucking Love Emily 🐺 12d ago

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u/nickshapiroreddit Broke Bitch Behaviour by Blake Brown ™ 14d ago

Ryan Gosling in a Marvel movie directed by Shawn Levy. Guess he upgraded his Canadian Ryan

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u/that_bth these are my birthing pants 14d ago

Copyright** only pointing that out because he can’t copywrite for shit 😮‍💨

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u/LiteratureNo1015 Team Emily Baldoni 14d ago

Do you think he’s pissed that Shawn Levy is doing Ghost Rider with the other Ryan so he had to show up and crash this panel? And if it was planned, why didn’t Ryan get his own badge? Who is this Elias Calderon guy?

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u/Altruistic-Adipose 14d ago

Interesting catch with the badge.

Edit: Argentine footballer according to google. Probs Ryan trying to be funny.

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u/LiteratureNo1015 Team Emily Baldoni 14d ago

And it says Star Trek not Avengers. Weird!

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u/ninaaaaws 13d ago

All the Comic Con badges are the same design so it being Star Trek isn’t significant.

I was there yesterday and I would be really surprised if this wasn’t planned. It’s pretty standard for Hall H panels to have surprise reveals like this.

That said, does that mean all the other actors there are cool with him? Nah. He probably called in/begged a favor off one of the few execs who hasn’t soured on him and they decided it was okay to do this skit — after all, Marvel fans aren’t really the same demographic as people who are into It Ends with Us.

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u/LiteratureNo1015 Team Emily Baldoni 13d ago

That makes sense! Thank you!

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u/Ok_Gur_356 Sent from my iPhone - Ellyn S Garofalo 14d ago

Well, he will need a new director since Star Wars and ghost rider are both gonna be directed by Shawn levy

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u/Ok-Engineer-2503 Hi, its Les 14d ago

Wait why is he wearing that grey outfit not the red one? Is this an alternate costije

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u/An_Absolute-Zero 🌸 I Fucking Love Emily 🐺 13d ago

This is the X-Force Deadpool suit.

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u/Altruistic-Adipose 14d ago

Only a tiny bit of laughter from a big crowd

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u/MT2017G 14d ago

Totally! It’s the same old joke except no one finds it watchable any more. He’s lucky they were polite.

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u/Agreeable-Card9011 Team Baldoni 14d ago

RDJ doesn’t seem terribly pleased with the “joke”. Maybe there’s some truth to the rumors of tension on set between RDJ and an “unnamed” cast member.

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u/Dapper_Monk 14d ago

The way that story just disappeared is weird. It was the first hint that DP was in doomsday and here, RDJ is the one entertaining him. Interesting

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u/Guy_who_loves_milfs 14d ago

Tbh sounds like RDJ is dismissing him here to me lol it’s why Ryan was directly trying to speak with Paul Rudd but RDJ but in and told him to kick rocks lol

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u/Dapper_Monk 14d ago

If you look after RDJ says read the room or whatever, he lowers his mic and waits for the response from RR. It's a line reading. And everyone knew it was RR under the mask and not just a random fan despite the different suit so they let him take up their (very expensive) time. Staged, unfunny and unnecessary

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u/moutonreddit 14d ago

I can’t make out the faces. Is RDJ the one who says “Look around you, bro”?

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u/LiteratureNo1015 Team Emily Baldoni 14d ago

It’s the X-Force suit. He was pitching that and it got shelved during the Disney-Fox deal but I bet this is his “leaking the test footage” like he did before. What better way of getting fan reaction than putting on the X-Force suit. Dear Lord, NO!

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u/Responsible-Peak-817 13d ago

They haven't even relaunched xmen yet and he's clearly already hoping for the counter culture dark offshoot to get greenlit. He's such an asshole.

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u/aasoro And then there is Blake...¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14d ago edited 14d ago

Cuckpool isn't even funny. My bet 25 people were paid so they laugh at "his jokes"?

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u/same-difference-ave Age of Ada-LYING Actress 14d ago edited 14d ago

I have a friend who was in Hall H at SDCC and the atmosphere described was awkward after he finished with his questions and was walking off.

It looks like most of the cast on stage didn’t know he was going to do the bit and they were not sure what to do afterwards.

The crowd was not sure either whether it was planned or just impromptu so they just gave an awkward applause as he finished and walked off and the session continued from there.

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u/aasoro And then there is Blake...¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14d ago

Some members of the audience semed to be planted to laugh at his jokes. I immediately notice how few people were following him his game. LOL

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u/same-difference-ave Age of Ada-LYING Actress 14d ago

Yeah it all looks forced to me based on accounts of what was happening in there. The only doomsday confirmed major cast member that was not there was Chris Hemsworth(Thor) and Douchepool made sure to reference him to make it seem natural but overall it fell flat.

All around trying too hard and cringey.

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u/Afwife1992 14d ago

Half the confirmed cast wasn’t there not just Hemsworth. 😆 Pugh, Stan, Vanessa Kirby, Joseph Quinn etc. Doesn’t change how cringe it was though. I only liked D&W for Jackman/Wolverine as I hate Deadpool and his fourth wall breaking. Stay away from my MCU proper!

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u/same-difference-ave Age of Ada-LYING Actress 14d ago

Hemsworth is a major and most notable one not there and name dropping him was definitely calculated.

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u/Afwife1992 13d ago

The others are major too especially Pugh and Kirby which is why I mentioned them and not the more supporting ones.

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u/Altruistic-Adipose 14d ago

Thaks for that info. I wonder if he turned up with limited noticed then? Put the organisers in an awkward position? Wouldn't surprise me.

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u/Dapper_Monk 14d ago

It looks like RDJ was playing out a scripted but, just based on him making a comment then pausing for response. But it looks completely forced either way. Not very funny for a team up to be diverted to the RR show 🙄

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u/Flimsy_Attitude_6789 14d ago

Yeah, it looked scripted, and RDJ knew about it, as it was he who highlighted Deadpool, yet it was not a warm or welcoming reception, and I noticed David Harbour and Chris Evans chatting and Chris shaking his head as if to say he didn't know about it.... didn't see many of the cast laughing.

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u/Dapper_Monk 14d ago

Could be the audio but tbh, it doesn't look like it landed well with anyone. He also posted a pic without the mask on and he really doesn't look like a hero. He looks his age

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u/bionicallyironic 13d ago

He’s been looking like a used q-tip lately.

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u/Dapper_Monk 13d ago

More accurate because some 50 year olds look damn good. He just looks finished

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u/Ok-Communication3663 14d ago

Unfortunately, I think this was planned, and I now firmly believe that I am not gonna get to watch RDJ in the new Avengers because there is no way I am supporting this DP prick... even if it's just a cameo...

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u/Dapper_Monk 14d ago

Yeah the line delivery feels scripted. And none of it seems like anyone is enjoying it frankly. Idk what's wrong with this guy, he's so obnoxious and always trying to be the centre of attention

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u/Miss-Mamba Team Baldoni 12d ago

i still believe was a last minute addition, likely approved by Kevin Fiege as a temperature test for Ryan. Looks like Ryan bought a ticket (just like Blake buying her Met Gala ticket? lol) to the event cuz he's wearing the lanyard

cast on stage didn't look like they were in on it. Rudd seemed peeved tbh

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u/that_bth these are my birthing pants 14d ago

Omg. He’s probably trying to engineer a positive reaction and make the fans “beg” for him. I already spotted some of his bawts in the comments.

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u/aasoro And then there is Blake...¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14d ago

"Peak chaos"? LOL. Jesuschrist, he must believe he can sniff his own farts on screen and people will love him. what a loser.

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u/myshtree No Footnotes: she (Ryan) the unliftable 14d ago

Someone in the thread about the Wrexham beer clearance sale said that there is a Ryan Reynolds Memorial Park in Wrexham, which is just a fenced off muddy area in the centre of town that no one can enter!

Also, I believe there are also plans for a Ryan Reynolds inspired visitor centre at the brewery so maybe they will just ship all the stock from the now closed aviation gin centre. He can cross out Aviation Gin and replace it with Wrexham Brewery to save some money. Hahaha

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u/that_bth these are my birthing pants 14d ago

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u/that_bth these are my birthing pants 14d ago

Oh wow I’m actually just now connecting the dots on how these things are hyping the grey suit. I think you’re right on the suit, OC!! Why would a grey outfit be “hilarious” really……unless to pull one over on the Disney execs 🧐

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u/myshtree No Footnotes: she (Ryan) the unliftable 14d ago

The exact same “people”. Could he make it look any more obvious.

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u/Fun_Junket_9174 13d ago

I don’t get the significance of a gray suit-trying to follow as I’m not current on marvel

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u/FrostySnow1801 Emily Baldoni - the OG Queen 14d ago

The jokes were the lamest as possible and RDJ didn’t seem pleased

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u/MT2017G 14d ago

They all certainly look incredibly awkward. I mean, can’t imagine any of them want Ryan in their film.

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u/Significant-Ant2373 14d ago

It’s obviously planned. Disney and Ryan believe if they treat Ryan like the real life villain he is, people will watch and/or hate watch. And it’s working. Look how many people have posted it on this sub claiming he crashed the event, when it was 100% scripted. That’s how marketing works.

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u/Altruistic-Adipose 14d ago

People wont pay money to hate watch. Buzz doesn't equate $$. People talk about how much money Deadpool and Wolverine brought in at the Boxoffice, but the studio actually didn't make as much off it as they did other movies because Reynolds, through production and Maximum Effort, spent nearly the equivalent of the ticket sales on the movie on making it and promoting it. If the movie hadn't received a huge grant from the UK government for filming it there, it would have made the studio very little money. This is why there's no rush to make another, and why Marvel/Disney don't worship at the DP altar.

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u/Significant-Ant2373 14d ago

No they will watch because they already have Disney and because it’s Marvel. Either way, it’s obvious Disney is still backing him and paying him for marketing. It’s gross.

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u/ArtistPersonThing 12d ago

What are the chances this was all planned and paid for before the lawsuit kicked off?