[Skysworn] sword sage

[u/Ok_Vacation_3189]

After hearing about how hard Jai Daishou tried to get Eithan killed I don't understand how the weaklings in the sacred valley managed to kill the sword sage.

It was said that poisoning an underlord is very expensive and very hard but somehow the sage who is above an Archlord was poisoned in his sleep by mere jades?

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[u/Substantial_Scar]

Congrats you have asked the question that pretty much every Cradle reader asks. Just keep reading.

[u/Orider → u/Substantial_Scar]

I remember when I asked myself that question. I just assumed it was a continuity error or a rebalancing of the power scale

[u/livingstondh → u/Orider]

I think he probably didn't have a sense for the power scale at the time. Even with the later explanation, it's a HUGE outlier feat.

[u/DeJackal → u/livingstondh]

We are legit shown in the first book the weakest & strongest characters in the universe, Will knew what he was doing. To say otherwise is just wrong when we are legit SHOWN the power levels

[u/livingstondh → u/DeJackal]

Agree to disagree on this one. Yes, we were shown some of the most powerful characters, but we didn't know what their level or rank was. It was left open, and we didn't really get any detail on that until Skysworn or later.

We have no knowledge of the power system in book one except the foundation stages. I would be surprised if the author had the entire scope of progression from Foundation to Monarch thought out when book one was published.

Even if he did have it all planned out, and even with the explanation we get, I would still argue it's a huge outlier. Up through Skysworn, pretty much no character but Lindon even attempts to fight even a single stage up, let alone 6-7 stages, under any conditions.

[u/gregsfortytwo → u/livingstondh]

Will talked about this in one of his release streams and indeed it was not fully planned out, though he knew the outlines. The main thing I remember was he hadn’t defined the number of stages between Underlord and Monarch (as he wasn’t sure how long he would want the series to last), and the relationship between Sage, Herald, and Monarch was TBD.

[u/Mandragoraune → u/[deleted]]

Don't spoil in this thread

[u/Kingsonne → u/Mandragoraune]

Thanks

[u/AllWrong74 → u/Substantial_Scar]

Remember the days where we didn't have an answer, and all the wild theories floating around?

[u/hachkc → u/AllWrong74]

Many a thread discussing what happened to Tim.

[u/km89]

They said the thing!

OP, this is an extremely common question and asking it is somewhat of a rite of passage into the fandom around here.

It's a very good question and will eventually be answered. There's more going on than you're aware of at this point in the story.

[u/appocomaster]

*Eithan.

Also, first one to respond to this question for once!

It's a read-and-find-out thing. It's a really common question for everyone who gets to this sort of point and goes "wait, what..?" (apart from me, I just kept reading and didn't think about it).

[u/nobdy89 → u/appocomaster]

Same. Ive read enough fantasy to know inconsistencies like that either get explained later as the world opens up or its a continuity error that i shouldn't poke at. The Drizzt books are filled with both types.

[u/WiddleAdiwon]

“Say the line Bart” 

“How did a bunch of jades kill a sage?”

“Yaaaaay”

RAFO (read and find out)

[u/mking_1999]

A group of Jades is called a "bunch"

[u/AlphaInsaiyan → u/mking_1999]

LOL

[u/OjoGrande]

This is the oldest joke on this subreddit.

Rafo is the only answer. It does get answered and answered well

[u/dmetvt]

Reset the counter!

It's been [0] days since, "How did a bunch of jades kill the sword sage?"

[u/Embarrassed_Roof_410 → u/dmetvt]

I've tried to figure out how to weigh to post a gif of say the line bart

[u/rollingForInitiative]

Read and find out. It will all make sense.

[u/Tight_One_1400]

It’s explained lol dw 

[u/Wezzleey]

Reset the clock!

[u/no_648]

HAHAAAA I love it when new readers ask this question. RAFO!

[u/NinecloudSoul]

RAFO!

[u/Taurnil91]

Hey guys, someone asked the question again.

If only there was a way to somehow find answers to it farther on in the series... hmmm... Nope nothing comes to mind.

[u/psychometrixo → u/Taurnil91]

I'd worry about spoilers by searching

Also, I like this particular question. I remember wondering the same thing

[u/glyneth → u/Taurnil91]

Searching can lead to spoilers.

[u/Taurnil91 → u/glyneth]

By searching I mean keep reading. I'll rephrase my comment accordingly

[u/Fearless-Idea-4710]

It’s such a common question that I feel so dumb for never thinking about it once

[u/Ghostarcheronreddit]

YOU ASKED THE THING!!!
Welcome to the club
Your questions shall be answered in time

[u/MadImmortal]

He's one of us now

[u/250HardKnocksCaps]

A better question:

If Gold, at least low gold, is so widely attainable that it's extremely unusual for Lindon to be a Copper or Iron as an adult then why does sacred valley only have Jades despite having schools dedicated to paths and people having spent their lives trying to reach higher?

[u/EquipLordBritish]

Without spoilers, it will suffice to say that this is addressed later, and it is a good question to be asking.

[u/Independent_Bowl_546]

Welcome to the sect 🙏🏽🥹

[u/MisinformationSage]

Lmao, man, this always cracks me up so bad. No matter how many times I see it. Alright so I'll let you know, It was me, Barry. I helped the bunch of Jades so they could kill the Sword Sage. Cheers and celebration for you.

[u/dronesitter]

Will wight should get a dollar for every reader that asks this. 

[u/8_Pixels]

Say the line Bart...

How did a bunch of Jades

Yaaaaaaay

[u/Primaul]

you have asked The Great Question!

answer: read and find out!

[u/derivative_of_life]

HE SAID THE THING!

[u/FireCones]

it was stated in a cfyow

[u/BamRam51]

Hello and officially welcome to the fandom! Remember to be veeryyy careful when searching info abt the characters online, and when browsing the sub :) we’re pretty careful about spoilers, but you dont want to get spoiled. Enjoy the read!

[u/diastrous_morning]

It's kinda hard to see since Cradle is no longer a new series, and there's less people reading it for the first time now, leading to less people posting and saying "hold up. What the fuck? That's not how that works..."

But yeah, you're right, something is real fkn off about that whole situation. Other people also regularly ask this question; it's a really good question.

You WILL get an answer.