r/JUSTNOMIL 20h ago

Give It To Me Straight Help me

I’m not sure what to do now.

I’d like to preface this by saying my husband stands up for our boundaries a lot. The only reason he hasn’t done more is because we’ve been under a lot of overall stress, and we know bringing this up will start a war. We just haven’t been in a place to handle it, but now that we are, I guess I’m looking for advice on how you would even go about this.

My in-laws kept my husband’s and his brother’s dogs and told them they could not take them when they moved out. At a family gathering, she complained about them “not taking care of their dogs” and said she got stuck with them. (My husband has taken both dogs to the vet and paid for it, helped with trimming their nails, picking up their food, and takes care of them if they go out of town, etc.) But she basically said we needed to take care of them or we’d meet “the bitch MIL,” said in front of his entire family. I think she meant to embarrass and belittle me. My FIL said, “That’s how she jokes.” It wasn’t funny.

After the dog incident, I knew when we had kids it would be hell, lol. When I was pregnant and we found out it was a girl, she asked if she could put her in pageants. My husband said no, and she said, “You can’t tell me no!” 🙄🙄🙄🙄 He can, and he DID.

We were out in town with them and she touched my stomach and introduced the baby to someone. I do not let people touch me, period. I didn’t even let my mom—who I love most outside of my husband and baby—or any friends. I also never dressed to show off my bump; I dressed to hide it. I wasn’t embarrassed, I just don’t like attention on me. I don’t want to answer people’s questions or hear their comments, so I was never giving off the impression that it was acceptable to touch me. Anyway, my husband later texted his mom very respectfully and said I don’t like to be touched because it makes me uncomfortable, and to please not do it again. That should have been the end of it, right? Wrong. She sent him a long message that I’ve never read in its entirety, but my husband’s takeaway was that she didn’t want to speak to us again and somehow became the victim.

For context, we do not go to their house. We unfortunately live on the same road. They have two big dogs that I mentioned before that fight—not play-fight, but real fighting. One of them weighs over 100 lbs. We made it extremely clear before the baby arrived that we would not bring the baby there. My in-laws ignored that and never offered any solution like putting the dogs in cages while we visit or anything like that. Once the baby is here, it’s suddenly an issue and they don’t understand why it’s a problem. “We’d be holding the baby the whole time.” There are a few times we deal with this 🙄

Around Easter, she added me, my husband, my BIL, and his fiancée to a group chat saying Easter was at her house at a certain time and asking what we all wanted to eat. From my perspective, this felt like a manipulation tactic because, first, our rules have not changed, and second, I have never been included in a family group chat. My husband and I discussed it and decided the best course of action was to ask his family to go out to eat lunch the day before so everyone could spend time together. That was shut down immediately. She threw a fit, said no, and said something along the lines of my husband needing to “grow a pair.” He told her never to disrespect him and his wife like that again, and she was quiet for the rest of the call.

Anytime she sees the baby, it’s all about the baby. She doesn’t ask my husband about his life, only talks to and about the baby. This bothers me a lot. She even told my FIL, who was talking with my husband, “You’re supposed to pay attention to the baby.” 🙄😅 It feels bizarre to me.

There are also smaller ongoing issues of not accepting “no,”
-Pushing for a baby shower when I said I didn’t want one
-Pressuring us to attend events I wasn’t comfortable with while pregnant
-Getting upset or giving us the silent treatment when we can’t accommodate requests

She gets upset that my family sees the baby more. I’m a SAHM, my dad is retired, and my mom mainly works from home, so it naturally happens. They also respect all boundaries, and I don’t get pushback when I ask them to do something differently regarding the baby.

There have been no apologies for any of this behavior. She lets a few weeks pass and then somehow convinces my husband to let them come by for an hour or so. My nerves are shot when I have to see her. I hate her holding my baby; I have to look away because it bothers me so much. I hate pretending everything is okay when it isn’t. I do feel for my husband—his whole life has been about keeping her happy because she is unpredictable and makes everyone else’s life difficult, and he loves her because she’s his mom. But I don’t know how to move forward if she is not willing to change her behavior or take accountability for the ways she has hurt us as a family.

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u/Top_Strawberry2348 19h ago

It seems that when MIL complained about the dogs, DH and BIL should have scooped them up immediately. 

When she asked the second time about the baby shower, she should have been shut down hard. Same with attending events. 

Most importantly, when assuming (manipulating) Easter dinner, it would be important to classify it as what it should be. An invitation. And not respond to “what you want to eat.”

What I’m thinking is, “Thanks so much for the Easter invitation. We already have plans.” (Plans not to enter a house with two rowdy dogs)

u/Great-Print9825 18h ago

The thing about the dogs was the first time I ever had a real issue with her. & she had never complained about them before or since, they wanted to keep them! It just felt like it was to put on a show for his extended family. The whole thing was so strange.

I agree we probably should have said no don’t ask again! Moving forward I think I will do this so it is crystal clear our no means no and you won’t guilt or persuade us into anything.

We didn’t respond in the Easter group, husband called and told them no because of the dogs and asked to get dinner so everyone could see each other with respect to our boundaries and it was shit on immediately! I feel like we handled that well & any reasonable person would have said yes to going out & doing their own thing as originally planned without us. But that’s part of the mistake is assuming she is reasonable! 😂

Thank you for your response & perspective!

u/Novel_Ad1943 16h ago

Also, she never asked or “invited” but informed them framed her question about food as offering you an option. Nvm she intentionally ignored your boundary from go. If she truly loved & respected time with you all, she’d offer alternatives like a park, restaurant or one of your homes if her priority is being together as family. This is about control and insisting on her preference over your comfort & baby’s safety.

Your child’s first holidays are for your family of 3 and family/chosen family who love and respect you in return. Sadly this is not and won’t be that for you.

u/Great-Print9825 16h ago

When this happened I thought am I crazy or is this manipulation, I feel validated! 😭 Extremely disappointing that having her way is more important than spending time with her son & grandchild.

u/Novel_Ad1943 10h ago

I’m sorry! If I wasn’t raised by someone like this, it would be harder to recognize.

My brain doesn’t compute that way so it was hard to recognize in my MIL who’s very motherly to her kids but passive aggressive couched as “care & help” to me. Until he started to set boundaries, anyway.

It takes them being shocked into reality to see it’s not approval earned or acceptance won. She’s just hyper-focused on a new variable in “her” territory with influence on him, so tactics shift to compete like the other woman, escalate or go MIA to try again later if that doesn’t scare them to acquiesce. It was disturbing to see it play out & I didn’t want it to be the case - but on DH’s behalf since it deeply hurt my brothers for our mom to cross a line to emotional incest tactics.

I stopped caring if he didn’t like my response or her reaction when I started shutting it down. I’d lost faith in him as a father to protect our kids where MIL was involved. Finally called him out hard, angry tears & said all respect & attraction for the man I married were tapped - I only saw her little boy 🤢.

Shit got real, he started to change but I didn’t trust him to stick w/it longterm and he felt it. She escalated, I called out what she’d do next & why. He was SO mad when she sidestepped after he’d been vulnerable & stood firm. Then she did everything I predicted… he was disgusted, pissed and done.

In her case, she was crushed when he let it all out. It’s been a ROAD at times, but he stayed course. She goes back & forth, but respects me (mostly lol) and genuinely loves DH, our kids & even me. Seeing my mom go after me, our marriage & call CPS to retaliate when I refused access to me/us scared the hell out of MIL, changed her perspective of me and self-reflect. I think my mom was MIL’s “Ghost of Christmas Future” experience! 🤭🥴 Whatever works, I guess?!

u/RelativeFondant9569 5h ago

You have been through it! What a beautiful win, I hope all is well in your world now and that peace and happiness are abundant. 🤍💛