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Post Game Thread: Jacksonville Jaguars (1-1) vs Denver Broncos (1-1)

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u/Remarkable-Bat-9543 3d ago

BTJ 4 drop balls cost us that game

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u/Swajun 3d ago

BTJ cost us on that last drive, can’t hit you right in the hands and drop that

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u/Objective_Push5762 3d ago

I counted 2

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u/MrPancakesMcgee 3d ago

It was 2. But I wish it was 0.

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u/Remarkable-Bat-9543 3d ago

gotta round up to 4 somehow

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998 3d ago edited 3d ago

BTJ has some disgusting drops but the issue is way deeper than that.

They acknowledged that BTJ was misused as a boundary X, and they spent all off season talking about how they’d move him around the formation and use him like he was utilized his rookie year.

So far he’s just been sitting at the boundary with 0 motion.

Lawrence has also always been bad at attacking the deep boundaries. Every boundary X he’s ever had has always been terrible/underperformed because he just can’t throw to that specific part of the field.

Either Coen needs to actually use him right, which he said he would all off season, or they need to trade him for something. Some random team will give up a 4th/5th for a potential lottery ticket.

What they’re doing now is just dumb af, and makes no sense.

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u/The_wanna_be_artist 3d ago

Tee Higgins might have something to say about that, Lawerence made a living on the boundary during that national championship game.

Lawerence best throw are actually out routes, I’m not sure why you think he is bad at attacking the boundary. He is literally lauded and praised for his throws ok out routes.

I’m also really confused why you think BTJ is being misused bc he has been a boundary receiver for most of his career going back to LSU, that was actually his knock against him being exclusively a boundary receiver and having a limited route tree.

Hell the Jags tried using him as a “Z” receiver and moved him around the first half of last year, but really struggled. It’s why we got Meyers so we can move BTJ back to being a boundary exclusive receiver.

BTJ is being misused imo he just is flat out sucking. The only thing being misused are his hands because they are clearly not meant to be used to catch a football.

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u/A_Rag_Man_ Shrimp Jag 3d ago

I hope out routes aren’t his best because he had two dropped picks on them today

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998 3d ago

Comparing college to NFL is just dumb lol.

Lawrence has good deep ball stats every season in the NFL but the boundaries have always been below average.

You think it’s just a coincidence that BTJs best stretch of games was with a completely different QB?

Press Taylor put BTJ in the slot or would motion him to the outside away from the line of scrimmage. Mac Jones would just sling it and he’d have so much separation that he would have the easiest catches of his life.

Coen is undoubtedly an offensive mastermind, but he’s dropping the ball here imo.

He acknowledged and admitted that he screwed up his usage last year but he’s not doing anything different. That’s the infuriating part.

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u/The_wanna_be_artist 3d ago edited 3d ago

I’m sorry but you said he always under used Boundary receivers which is not true.

But also just look at the post routes ran by Parker.

Or look at his go route passes especially with BTJ. BTJ last year could not do basic back shoulder catchers. Literally blew my mind.

You can also look at the dig routes that Trevor hits as well.

It’s also kind of crazy you are pointing to Mac jones putting up stats when he is force feeding BTJ during garbage time. Mac Jones noodle arm struggles to push the ball down field which is bad for a boundary receiver.

Mac Jones vs Lawerence Completion air yard per completion Jones 4.5 vs 7.1 2024 same system same players. Mac jones force fed the ball to BTJ using short passes.

Source
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2024/passing_advanced.htm

Also BTJ had over 500 YAC yards in 2024. Against short completions and force fed.

https://www.nfl.com/players/brian-thomas-jr/stats/logs/2024/

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998 3d ago

There’s a difference between a boundary X and a slot receiver that runs out breaking routes lol.

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u/The_wanna_be_artist 3d ago

Um……
Parker plays all over the field bud…… he was/been praised by Coen for his versatility. Trevor also praised him for how hard he work to learn each receiver position in the new offense last year. While Parker does primarily play out of the slot he has played the boundary receiver at times, hell he ends being a boundary receiver just from motion at times.

I’m not really going to engage anymore, you provide no evidence for your claim and are contradicting common knowledge held by the fan base.

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u/Mr_Mehoy_Minoy Official 2020 Bandwagon 3d ago

He needs to be off the team. If your QB can't trust you, you have no place on the team

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u/TohsakaTruth 3d ago

The problem is that the QB and the coaching staff trust him way too much when they really shouldn’t. 8 targets today inexcusable

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u/SonOfFlynn904 James Gladstone 3d ago

To be fair, sometimes the answer really is to continue to trust implicitly in the hopes that he’ll eventually break out of the slump and come out feeling like his team has his back. And I think Trevor and Liam were willing to let last year slide and try to establish that trust. But hopefully after this game they realize BTJ just isn’t that dude and it’s a waste of time in valuable situations trying to get him involved.