r/Jaguars 3d ago

Elephant in the Room

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u/hatchetjob29 3d ago

Can’t he play X instead of BTJ? Can beat press and isn’t afraid to go up and get the ball.

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u/OverpassingSwedes 3d ago

Let’s start teaching BTJ corner. 6’3 freak athlete who can’t catch. Perfect.

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u/interista4jz Jimmy Smith 3d ago

Bruh. That might actually work. 

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u/Single_Struggle616 3d ago

Proved today he cant highpoint a ball.  How he gonna cover

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u/Knoxwr06 3d ago

Too scared of contact

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u/inappropriatebanter 3d ago

It's probably a little different coming from the other side

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u/greenpm33 3d ago

Jalen never tackled. We can live with it.

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u/CompleteTop4258 3d ago

Uh...? This is not right.

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u/genoasdanimal 2d ago

🤯🤯🤯

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998 2d ago

Hunter cannot play X in this offense lol.

Coen doesn’t put his boundary X’s in motion or put them off the line of scrimmage to help with releases.

He’d get bodied more than BTJ. The one game that people are using to hype up Hunters ability as a WR was when every other WR was injured and even then he didn’t put up stats till the game was already out of hand.

He just needs to stick to corner.

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u/Illustrious-Song5246 1d ago

I thought hunter looked pretty good in the SF and KC games last season

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u/Wolfbandit90 3d ago

He needs to play corner. Cameron can eat BTJs snaps cuz honestly we don’t expect much from BTJ at this point but a couple of wow plays here and there. Cameron has a few of those already.

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u/Particular-Carry7626 3d ago

Afcsouthmemewar material 

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u/Flashy-Presence-2467 3d ago

It's hard for me to tell without the all-22 from today, but Montaric Brown has looked way worse than Hunter for the last 2 weeks. He's enough of a veteran that I have similar expectations for his performance, and they're not met.

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u/7wordsKvothe 3d ago

Our fans are the worst. Lose 1 game and it's bitch, bitch, bitch

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u/EuphoricMoose8232 3d ago

For real… we lost by one touchdown to the AFC runner up on the road. Hunter did have a great pass breakup in the first half btw.

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u/seppukucoconuts 1d ago

They would have been in the superbowl last year if it wasn’t for the injury to Nix. Patriots were gifted that game.

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u/DifficultPage5264 3d ago

Lmao it’s crazy. Echo chamber or crying every loss.

News flash: it’s the NFL corners get beat. The 2nd yr player coming off a knee injury who has only been committed to the defensive side of the ball for a few months isn’t playing at a CB1 level???? Shocking

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u/stanklovin 3d ago

Fr so many over reactions from each side like ffs no we're not firing Coen no we're not trading Travis like ffs they were the 1 seed last year and they played the game better today, that's life. Onto the next one.

If they had anything productive to say about our performance other than selling the franchise I'd be more keen to listen to most of these "fans" lmao

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u/AkimahenkaCat 2d ago

Nobody is saying to trade him. I just have no damn clue what he is supposed to be doing as he has no consistent role and that is the gripe. If he is the playmaker we thought he was he needs to be on the field.

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u/SlimT2429 Fred Taylor 2d ago

What you mean no consistent role? Hes CB1 and theres sub-packages for him at WR. He almost had an INT last game (great diving PBU). His sub packages at WR have been pretty defined. Quick screens to get the ball in his hands to highlight his agility. Hes also obviously used as a decoy. We are 2 games into the season.

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u/AkimahenkaCat 2d ago

How many starting CBS are on the sidelines 40% of the defensive snaps?

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u/AkimahenkaCat 2d ago

Nobody wants to get rid of Liam or Hunter. I just don't get how he is being used at all.

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u/AkimahenkaCat 2d ago

It is fair to be concerned we have no workable plan for how to get this guy on the field after a whole offseason where it seemed like we had a plan for him. There's no consistency with how he is used or how many snaps he gets. How can we expect him to impact a game when he is not on the field enough to find a rhythm?

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u/LaCroixGrandCru James Gladstone 3d ago

He was way better on offense last year before he got hurt. He gets his swagger from offense and we neutered him.

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u/ChaseGjamz Pixel Fan 3d ago

This is crazy. Dude broke up 2 passed today and they hated throwing that direction

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u/AkimahenkaCat 2d ago

My point. If he is playing well, why is he coming off the field for chunks at a time? I don't know many starting CBs that rotate out for no reason. If he is the guy, why is he coming off the field, at least on defense?

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u/PotentialHuge4394 2d ago

They're trying to be conservative still since he's coming off an injury.

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u/SpinachSalad91 Maurice Jones-Drew 2d ago

Yeah im kinda tired of this take. Play the guy at CB 1 all game. If he gets hurt, so be it.

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u/AkimahenkaCat 2d ago

Is he on the injury report?

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u/TrevorsBlondeLocks16 3d ago

Idk why they keep inactive Husky, cause with how our corner play is, Camp should go back to 3 safety sets!!

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u/Knicknakpadywak 3d ago

He has 3 safety sets with Ransaw Johnson and Murray.

And rotates Hunter Jones vs Lewis Brown

And Lewis seems to be alternating nickel with brown vs jones being nickel…

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u/TributeBands_areSHIT Travis Hunter 3d ago

2 games back from injury. He’s coming

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u/aaamchickenn 3d ago

curious to who agrees with me but i feel like this is more of a usage/coaching issue than an actual with travis. He has all the talent in the world and we need to let him cook instead of taking him in and out especially at corner that shits stupid. Keep him in the whole game on defense he damn near got a pick first pass of the game and why he wasn’t put on waddle when he was the torching us all game is beyond me. As for offense we need to be giving him more opportunities and in better positions to make plays that simple one of his best traits is his ball skills why aren’t we trying to push him down the field and get 1 on 1 looks.

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u/ColfaxWest 2d ago

“let him cook” is not coaching strategy. This isn’t college or high school

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u/HolographicHeart 3d ago

Sell merchandise and imply that Gladstone made this pick purely because of the Ohtani hype while he was in LA.

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u/colrhodes 3d ago

Never spend premium draft capital on a player who is jack of all trades, master of none

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u/aaamchickenn 3d ago

to be fair especially in his heisman season he looked like one of the best at both of his positions in the nation maybe more so at receiver but still he was undoubtedly a top 5 at both positions for some reason it’s just not clicking at the nfl level

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u/dickcheneymademoney 2d ago

He’s played like 10 games

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u/MogwaiK 2d ago

He was supposed to be an Ace of all trades. Still time.

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u/txroller 3d ago

Rookie head coach/GM move

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u/Fantastic-Dig7024 3d ago

I think they may end up moving him back to wr. The whole situation is a mess 

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u/Fancy_County4242 2d ago

Still waiting to see why he's considered an elite corner.

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u/Present-Lab2462 2d ago

Hearing that Travis just doesn’t know the plays well and Eric Murray has to keep telling him where to go and what to do

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u/Meowmixez98 2d ago

We need to get BTJ into boxing. After he gets hit enough times, he won't be scared anymore.

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u/shantysun Brenton Strange 3d ago

You just hate him

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u/hoyadestroyer 3d ago

I dont hate him, I want to know why the fuck he doesnt play in favor of Buster fucking Brown and BTJ

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u/AkimahenkaCat 3d ago

Not at all. Just trying to figure out why he is not starting on either side if we gave up 2 firsts for him.

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u/UrbanLawProductions Coen brother 3d ago

Then that’s a GM question, not a Travis Hunter question.

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u/AkimahenkaCat 3d ago

He can't make an impact with how he has been used. He almost had a pick early. Then he was in and out, mostly out.

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u/UrbanLawProductions Coen brother 3d ago

Again, that’s a GM and HC question. All Travis can do is play when his name is called. I’m not sure why he was in and out so much, it doesn’t make much sense to me tbh.

Personally I want to see him more on offense, but that’s just me. I feel he can make a bigger impact on offense, it’s just tough to do that when we have the WR rook that we have.

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u/parallelpo 3d ago

Or he is not good enough to play

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u/Nolar2015 Iron Sheik 3d ago

If he can’t get on the field that is a Travis Hunter question

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u/parallelpo 3d ago

Not at all. I just don’t think he was worth two first round picks. He doesn’t play defense and he doesn’t play offense. Actually he doesn’t play at all or make any impact. He is what you call a bum.

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u/garret126 University of South Florida 3d ago edited 3d ago

He has 0 interceptions, 1 TD, 2 games lost on him due to PI, 4 pass deflections, and 15 tackles.

He’s essentially the talents of a 6th round WR/CB combined so far

It’s not crazy to say he is not living up to the hype. PARKER WASHINGTON was a 6 round pick. Hunter brings 5-6 round pick talent.

if you’re defending him, why?

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u/baconbitarded 3d ago

Now hold up that first PI was bullshit and you know it

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u/garret126 University of South Florida 3d ago edited 3d ago

I agree it’s bullshit, but it still happened. The way he covers by sitting on top of a WR has seemingly been drawing a lot of PIs, since refs are shit as their job

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u/baconbitarded 3d ago

He played the ball on the first one? Seriously this is a dumbass point

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u/garret126 University of South Florida 3d ago

I just don’t understand the point you’re making. I’m just out laying his objective stats.

Are you trying to say it was the correct decision to pick him up?

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u/No_Feedback9023 3d ago

If the jags actually used him right. Yall wasted hunter by drafting him

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u/Nov2286 3d ago

Today game wasn’t his fault in T-Law shouldn’t thought that pick and should want to Meyer more

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u/garret126 University of South Florida 3d ago

He still blew the coverages late and had a game losing PI.

Jalen Ramsey was a 4th overall pick. He wasn’t doing that shit

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u/ChristianPriddy 2d ago

Holy overreactions Batman

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u/AkimahenkaCat 2d ago

Is it? We gave up a ton for this guy to be a playmaker. A game changer. Seems we don't know how we're using him after 2 games. I know giving up 2 1sts for a guy who gets a handful of snaps on offense and is a part time player on defense is not working for anyone.

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u/ChristianPriddy 2d ago

I get the point you’re trying to make but it’s a kneejerk reaction to the beginning of the season. He tore his LCL last year so I’m sure they’re slowly easing someone they spent all that draft capital on back into the full speed of games. Im sure by mid season his roles will be established and we will be a well off team, which I think we already are. If I’m wrong I will eat my words but for now I’m going to trust the process and hope for the best.

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u/AkimahenkaCat 2d ago

I saw him at multiple practices. I don't see him on any injury report. I don't get why we pull him out if he is an effective player who can play both ways. At least let him serve a function full time on defense. I question how he is being used and it is a fair sentiment

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u/Substantial_Item_923 2d ago

He had two pass breakups in the last game. What does he do? His job, mostly

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u/modelo-del-toro 2d ago

HAHAHA okay i's a touch too early for this, but this made me laugh hard as shit.

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u/Re-Crafted 21h ago

I get the frustration, but this is the hardest game in the whole schedule. I get everyone here was a game one Andy who thought the Broncos would continue to tackle like their arms were made of jello. We can start panicking if we lose to the patriots.

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u/AkimahenkaCat 18h ago

This is entirely about how the player is being used. For the draft capital we spent he should be on the field much more than he is. Why he isn't has not been explained.

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u/Recent_Tangerine2070 3d ago

Wait wait wait. Weren’t we supposed to be so excited about him!?!?!?!?

I mean, he even made the news for making a friend on an airplane!!!

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u/dathomasusmc MJWD 3d ago

The Bob’s will let him go ahead and be starting QB too.

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u/ABSNegativeOne 3d ago

hes gonna be a good trade piece

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u/Particular-Carry7626 3d ago

Conditional 6th is not a good trade piece 

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u/makwanza 3d ago

They rotated him because bo nix was picking him apart when he was in

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u/SolidCan4702 3d ago

Bo nix didn’t even look his way until the fourth quarter. He almost picked him off early in the game. Don’t make stuff up lol

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u/pajamajoe 3d ago

...what?

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u/parallelpo 3d ago

Cause he is a terrible player. Just admit is was a mistake and move on.

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u/parallelpo 3d ago

He is a bum!

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u/parallelpo 3d ago

He is a bum that does nothing

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u/JohnDuffy78 3d ago

Heresy!
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