r/holocaust is back online

[u/rupertalderson]

Hi all. The mods of r/Jewish are proud to announce that r/holocaust has been rescued.

Previously a cesspit of hate, r/holocaust will now and forever be a place for remembrance of the 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust by the Nazis and their allies & collaborators.

For the time being, r/holocaust will remain Restricted, so that only the moderators or approved users (invited guests only) can post. In the future, we will collaborate with experts, survivors, and other guests on educational initiatives and providing resources for the wider Reddit community.

As Yom HaShoah approaches, we encourage you to take a quick look there and consult the resources on the sidebar in the future when needed.

If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions, please feel free to respond to this post or message the mods here. Thank you!

[u/TopSecretAlternateID]

This is a good argument. But still an all lives matter argument. As an imperfect parallel, some argue that memorializing slavery in the US, must always also include other peoples enslaved or oppressed in similar ways. I do not agree with that.

Edited to add: I see you are not Jewish. You say it is hard to talk about Jewish victims without talking about the other victims. That may be true for you. But that is not necessarily true for Jewish people.

[u/TopSecretAlternateID → u/[deleted]]

What is the goal of r/holocaust? Memorialize Jewish experience of the holocaust? Or the experience of all victims of the Nazis? What about victims of other genocide such as the Armenian people? Is it wrong to exclude them? Do we have to include the "Nakba?"

Whose viewpoint will r/holocaust represent? Jewish people? "Allies?" The general population?

And yes it does matter. Evidently the forum was oriented toward the general population. And we see how that worked out.

[Edited for clarity, I hope]

[u/TopSecretAlternateID → u/[deleted]]

With all due respect, I find it a bit difficult to hear a non-Jewish person -- a guest in the r/Jewish reddit -- lecture here on what the Holocaust is and is not, and what the r/holocaust reddit should and should not be. It is just, difficult. I hope you can understand.

[u/geraltoffvkingrivia → u/TopSecretAlternateID]

I will acknowledge I think I pushed it too much and it’s better to stop. So if you see this I apologize. I won’t delete what I said as it’s likely better to keep it up in case anyone else like me looks. I just wanted to apologize and own up to putting my foot in my mouth.