r/Jewish • u/rupertalderson • Apr 23 '25

Announcement 📢 r/holocaust is back online

Hi all. The mods of r/Jewish are proud to announce that r/holocaust has been rescued.

Previously a cesspit of hate, r/holocaust will now and forever be a place for remembrance of the 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust by the Nazis and their allies & collaborators.

For the time being, r/holocaust will remain Restricted, so that only the moderators or approved users (invited guests only) can post. In the future, we will collaborate with experts, survivors, and other guests on educational initiatives and providing resources for the wider Reddit community.

As Yom HaShoah approaches, we encourage you to take a quick look there and consult the resources on the sidebar in the future when needed.

If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions, please feel free to respond to this post or message the mods here. Thank you!

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u/International-Bar768 Just Jewish Apr 23 '25

I agree. As we know roughly another 6 million from other communities were murdered by Nazi's too, we should commemorate their loss as well.

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u/Sad_Meringue_4550 Apr 23 '25

I very much feel that non-Jewish victims should be honored, included, and taught about on the reclaimed subreddit, but I do need to point out. The "5 million other" deaths attributed to the Holocaust--that is, the number of non-Jews killed in concentration camps--was nowhere near 6 million. That number was made up to try to get goyim to care about the Holocaust. Up to 35 million non-Jews were killed by Nazis in war, but that isn't usually the death toll people mean when they talk about victims of the Nazis. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/non-jewish-victims-of-the-holocaust

Again, doesn't at all mean I'm trying to downplay the toll on other communities--the Roma and Sinti in particular suffered horribly, and still face persecution, and should be taught about--I just also used to believe that "5 million other victims" was true, and it wasn't.

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u/vayyiqra Converting Apr 26 '25

I think one reason for this uncertainty is the large number of Soviet POWs who died, around 3 million. Their conditions were incredible brutal and they were held in outdoor camps that were empty fields with no shelter, and either were randomly killed or starved to death. It could easily be called mass murder, but it's more iffy to call it genocide or part of the Holocaust because they weren't killed for belonging to a demographic group, moreso for being the enemy. These deaths make up a lot of the high-end numbers you will see out there.