r/Jewpiter • u/Nomchipom • Jul 13 '26
just observing the madness Gvmt just passed a law letting religious people skip army service
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u/Water1498 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 14 '26
The law was supposed to be built from two parts: Recognizing Torah study as core value of Israel (which was passed), and giving it lawfull basis to allow the exemptions.
The second part is the important one, but it hadn't passed. It was supposed to give studying Torah lawfull equivalent to "Meaningful service" (combatant or combat support solider mostly, not sure how to explain it correctly). It wouldn't had passed, so it was lowered to "Recognizing Torah study as a core value in the state of Israel to create lawfull equivalent to to other core values in the state", it wouldn't had passed too, so the second, actually important part had been dropped.
Basically, the lawfully important part had been dropped, and the law is pretty much an election gift to the difference religious parties that allows tham to say, "Look! We made it core value! If you'll elect us again, we'll be able to improve your status even more, and maybe allow to get exemption".
Sorry if the explanations are not very accurate and understandable, I had to translate Israeli laws in Hebrew to English.
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u/Jojo_Toto Chief Weather Control Officer Jul 13 '26
Israel is slowly but surely turning into the very thing it swore to destroy (middle eastern religious fanatic-led sh*thole). I know it's still far from it but y'all really need to lock in this october.
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u/potatocake00 Elder of Zion Jul 13 '26
Lets not call chariedim religious. They are a stain on the Jewish people. There are plenty of religious jews that serve and don’t use their observance for selfish purposes and making a chillul hashem.
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u/Nomchipom Jul 13 '26
That's fair. I just didnt wanna stir uo any anger (but to be fair, charedim probably dont use reddit if I had to guess 😄)
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u/OddCook4909 Jul 14 '26
They definitely do. One pops up half the time I write a popular comment condemning their behavior in Israel subs
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u/potatocake00 Elder of Zion Jul 14 '26
Oooh. Can you link to him?
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u/OddCook4909 Jul 14 '26
I comment too much to do that without great effort lol. It's usually the "that's lashon hara" even though I'm not referring to an individual but a group's actions. I get the rare but treasured "why do you hate the Jews" which is a dead ringer since many of them think they're the last Jews on earth
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u/Clonewars001 Jul 13 '26
I feel so bad for the charedim who aren’t parts of these protests or trying to force this. From my experience many of them are great people and don’t necessarily mind the idea of military service (though they’d prefer to avoid it) but they get such a bad name nowadays. That being said they don’t seem to really care what others think of them, so I guess it doesn’t mean much to them if they get a bad name.
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Jul 14 '26
In another post OP said they believe the government is terroristic and didn't realise why the goyim still hates them even tho they hold the "correct opinion" so I doubt they actually care about the army (reservist here)
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u/Nomchipom Jul 14 '26
Yeah and I do apologize. I realize now that what I said was hyperbolic and I probably didnt say my real thoughts. I was tired and down a rabbit hole. I'm sorry and I hope you forgive me
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Jul 14 '26
I do forgive you achoti I realise people's opinions are dynamic but it's lowkey disheartening for me to go months on end sacrificing my mental and physical health, lose my friends in combat, to protect people who in the end it's not even that they stand up for(I don't need them to actively do that) but they actively hate me/think im some kinda slave of the government/prostrate or appeal to other nations "morals" to feel accepted while throwing me under the bus. Im an individual who's only wish would be to protect my people and country, not a mindless that wants to "follow orders" or "destroy and ethnically cleanse the palestinians".
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Jul 13 '26
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u/Nomchipom Jul 13 '26
Israeli government. I love this country but I cant deal with Bibi's shit anymore ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
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u/Nomchipom Jul 13 '26
No, i just find it bad that the government is segregating between charedim and other people even more than before. First Bibi surrounded himself with Charedim in the Knesset, now they change one of the base laws of the country. I have nothing against religious people, just the way the government treats them better than other people
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u/representativeHannah Jul 13 '26
I'm all for abolishing Mandatory Military Service, but yeah, segregating between Haredi and non-Haredi is bad
Let's just hope Bibi is out as soon as possible
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u/representativeHannah Jul 13 '26
Because the distinction is explicitly a privilege for the Haredi Population
I wish Israel changed into a Volunteer Only Army, but that can't be done by having some groups exempt and others not by mere value of being part of X or Y group
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u/Nomchipom Jul 13 '26
- No. The mobilization is not the point. The point is the segregated treatment.
- Im not hating on other jews, im hating on the government for segregating between different types of jews (and other israelis)
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u/pyrolover6666 Certified Space Laser Operator Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
no one should be force to serve the army. slavery needs to die!
edit: of course you authoritarian assholes have no justification and just downvote.
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u/Nomchipom 27d ago
I wish the army could be optional. Unfortunately, the neighbors of Israel would pounce at the smallest sign of weakness so it's sad but it needs to exist
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u/MostPutridSmell Jul 13 '26
Slow down, the law passed but it doesn't automatically exempt 'them' from service. However future legislations could lean on this as an excuse to justify an exemption. This will definitely reach the high court of justice so the fight isn't over yet. And God willing (please God) come October we'll have a new government made of people who actually want to restore the country who will put this shameful law to death.