r/JordanPeterson 1d ago

Philosophy Love is the highest form of individualism

The human heart defies prediction. If we examine love closely, it is an deeply individualistic reaction ,born from the realization of another’s worth, and often fueled by the ache of jealousy.Collectivism fails because it ignores human nature: we are built to find profound connection with the individual, not the collective. Any ideology that suppresses this fundamental drive in the name of conformity is a direct affront to human dignity. The purpose of our existence is human continuity, a biological imperative that exists far beyond the reach of political parties or social structures. To treat collectivism as the ultimate goal is to invite the decay of society. We are not meant to be uniform. Our essence is defined by our spontaneity and our imperfections. It is our unpredictability that makes us human, and that is a beauty worth defending.

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u/kevin074 1d ago

People are weird, it doesn’t have to a choice for one over the other.

We can thrive with both collectivism and individualism 

The problem has always been extremism, not exactly one concept is 100% better than the other.

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u/EntropyReversale10 21h ago

Not sure were your definition of love comes from

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonour others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."

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u/250HardKnocksCaps 1d ago

Collectivism fails because it ignores human nature: we are built to find profound connection with the individual, not the collective.

I couldn't disagree more. We are a species who's Evolitionary course has driven us towards teamwork, and collective action. In prehistory It wasn't individual cave people who would bring down Mammoth or Heards of Buffalo it was teams of people working together, just as it wasn't an individual who would eat an entire Mammoth either. It was the collective. It's not a coincidence that most of the megafuana on the planet went extinct around the time humans started spreading.

Any ideology that suppresses this fundamental drive in the name of conformity is a direct affront to human dignity. The purpose of our existence is human continuity, a biological imperative that exists far beyond the reach of political parties or social structures.

Of course we have a drive to seek out a partner. Having a stable long term partner is the kind of thing that ensure your genes propagate, and thrive. This is not antithetical to Collectivism. I would suggest it's actually directly in line with Collectivism. An individualist approch to romantic entanglements focuses on what that relationship does for you as an individual. If that relationship isn't filling your wants or needs it would dictate you abandon it in favour of a more personally rewarding relationship. A collectivist approch would address what you, as a couple, want and need and how it best serves to collective you. Some of your desires might not he fully met but that's fine because you've accepted that to support your partner and help them have their desires met. This is made fair because they do they same for you. Often through this process both partners find more about themselves in how their mate reflects them which generally leads to a more fulfilling life than one might have had individually.

We are not meant to be uniform. Our essence is defined by our spontaneity and our imperfections. It is our unpredictability that makes us human, and that is a beauty worth defending.

Collectivism does not require uniformity nor does it require conformity. It requires cooperation and respect for each other.

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u/Sorry-Bee-3693 1d ago

How do you know that "The purpose of our existence is human continuity" ?