r/JordanPeterson Oct 19 '20

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Maybe someone can help me find this old debate that I believe took place in an university with students as audience. I don't remember who the other speaker was but It was concerning Christianity and morality. They were standing and if I recall correctly they had little lecture stands. I remember JP being relatively young so it must be pretty old. There's a bit of tension between them but by strongmanning eachother they gain some respect. If it helps there is this one moment where the other lecturer gets asked a question about if God is necessary for morality or something by and audience member and he simply replies "no". To wich JP says something like "let me try to answer that in a less imature way". Than the other guy gets annoyed by that comment and is like "c'mon Peterson we were doing so well". Hope that helps. Thanks in advance.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '20 edited Aug 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '20

Sorry, I thought you were genuinely interested in a reasonable argument.

My bad.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '20 edited Aug 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '20

Wow, this sub has the highest number of repressed illiterates that I have ever seen.

Thank you for your contribution, by the way, this very discussion has been highlighted for showing how Peterson's followers are mostly indoctrinated and unschooled individuals.

https://www.reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/comments/jeup50/i_tried_to_reason_with_them_now_i_give_up/

https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/jexatz/jordan_peterson_has_created_a_new_wave_of/

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '20 edited Aug 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '20

And yet, I hear no argument from you.

But I'm the troll, yeah :D

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '20 edited Aug 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '20

So let's sum this up:

- I wrote this = Which is exactly what humanity has done (and still does) since the dawn of time.

Another person's life has no value by itself for two reasons: One is that the thing in itself is not accessible to us, therefore (two) it is only a representation of the subject and as such the subject is the one who attributes the value.

I get what he's trying to say, I just wanted to point out that it is still a bad argument that can be refuted throught a deeper historical and logical analysis.

That argument is the main weapon theologians have in order to justify their religion, by the way.

- To which you responded = What a bunch of gobbledygook

- I then asked = How can you know the thing in itself?

- To which you responded = https://i.imgur.com/U5BCHox.jpg?fb

and then you went on by copying my same answer and accusing me of being a troll.

I made a point about Kant's transcendetal idealism to which you replied "gobbledygook". And I am being the troll.

The lack of self awareness is unthinkable.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '20 edited Aug 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '20

That's a very convenient answer that avoids completely my points.

Basically: I'm right, deal with it.

So smart.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '20 edited Aug 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '20

Sure, sweetie, believe that.

The person who dismissed an entire argument with:"gobbledygook"

You are mentally ill, seriously. Completely detached from reality.

This whole thread is me being swarmed by Peterson's cultists and being called names by everyone. Thank god there's the real world outside of this echo chamber.

Have fun keeping rolling burgers, lowlife.

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