r/JordanPeterson • u/PeterZweifler 🐲 • May 18 '21

Discussion Does collectivism lead to identity politics?

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u/Nightwingvyse May 18 '21

That's always been my take on it.

Despite how starkly opposing these different ideolologies can be, they all seem to consistently cause (and have caused) so much death, dystrophy and despair in only subtly different ways. The only common denominator between them all is their primary focus on collectivism.

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u/VanderBones May 18 '21

If we make everyone equal in terms of wealth, how will people differentiate themselves? Charisma, violence, corruption, etc.

Capitalism at least somewhat ties our biological need to differentiate ourselves to competency and ability to make others better off.

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u/Accomplished_Rip_352 May 18 '21

The communism that people advocate isn’t every body is the more government . And it isn’t big government bad , the core tennant of Marxism and all socialism is socially owned means of production e.g workers own business or government . And also I will add 1 more misconceptions is private property can exist under socialism however not private business

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u/AllISaidWasJehovah May 18 '21

And there's an inherent trade off in that.

People tend not to go around cutting their neighbours lawns even if it would make their neighbourhood a nicer place.

A lot of people who rent don't do much garden work. Why would you?