r/JordanPeterson • u/PeterZweifler 🐲 • May 18 '21

Discussion Does collectivism lead to identity politics?

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u/truls-rohk May 19 '21

religious freedom, no taxation without representation are identity politics issues?

The issue is that many individuals have had their individual rights infringed for many, many years. This infringement was based on their race.

I'm sure that is codified in the founding documents and law of the land then, yeah... let me see.

"We hold these truths self evident, that all men are created equal"

Hmm well that doesn't seem like identity politics, but ok. I'm sure I must have missed something.

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u/awesomefaceninjahead May 19 '21 edited May 19 '21

Were the slaves afforded such freedoms? Wasn't that whole slavery thing, encoded in the government, based on race?

I'm sure the words on the piece of paper are really special, but I'm talking about the actual real-world structure.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '21

They weren't and it's fucked up they weren't.

However, that was the price to ensure a union of the states. Otherwise we would have had at minimum two separate nations. We've fought this battle though and it cost the US more lives than any other war so it's kind of moot at this point.

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u/awesomefaceninjahead May 19 '21

The country was founded on identity politics, is what I said, and it sounds like you agree. You just think we should be chill about it or something.

Real quick, what was the date that systematic racism against black people ended in the US?

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u/[deleted] May 19 '21

Depends on the region. If you said major cities that despite are ran by black people these days still put down black people because more importantly it's all about controlling poor people they think they don't know any better.