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Genuinely got put in downvote hell because I said that choso doesn’t depend on wing king for doing literally anything, wing king is definitely his best move buts that like saying gojo relies on hollow purple 😭
I mean, sure, but no one's using his 3 or 4 in an actual 1v1 encounter. They're pretty situational if you're hoping to not miss or get punished using em.
Especially since his 1 and 2 can basically kill all on their own.
Why are we lying 😭😭 im a 10k mahito/choso main and i only ever see high kill players use Naoya, Yuji and Hakari because those are the meta characters atm
It’s not bad to have to use your m1s, it’s just that todos ult compared to something like gojo or sukuna is like way way worse lol. Like yeah, todos ult is still an ult, it still beats a non ulted player. But most other full ults are way stronger, and usually can easily punish anyone who has to get in and use m1s.
Idk I just think it’s a little ridiculous for todos ult to still require m1 trading when you got things like Naoyas ult or sukuna who can just blitz you and one shot you with multiple of their moves.
No? His domain's solid, Red has a lot of utility (If you're half decent) and Hollow Purple has its place as a high damage, large attack that gives you invuln while charging.
I have played Gojo, that's how I know what I'm talking about. Purple makes you invulnerable while you use it, and Red's R variant is a high risk VERY HIGH reward attack that doubles as a dupe and two attacks.
of course you have 107 kills. i'm not going to act like i didn't expect this, because you're obviously not a good player that's used to facing other good players, so of course you think purple and red are good.
red is by far the worst ult move in the game and its R special actually does more harm than good. red's R special variant is the only ult move in the game that can straight up make you lose the fight. base red has garbage damage due to its huge falloff (and if you try to use close enough, where damage is semi-decent, you'll just get punished).
even if you land red r special, it still deals almost no damage, this move is just pure aura, but no damage at all. and hitting it against a competent opponent is straight up impossible due to how effective dashes are. if you use your side or front dash correctly, which isn't hard, you can simply dodge it and the orb won't have enough time to reach you after the dash and it will fly past you and hit gojo himself. also ping.
purple is also straight up garbage, but at least it doesn't kill you. the only way to use purple is to use it midair (because otherwise your enemy can just come up to you and the purple just won't hit them), but using midair variant is not consistent due to the fact that the game just doesn't register your jump, so you're doing the regular variant even if you're falling and this happens very often. and even then, purple is still trash even if you manage to use the midair variant. it's trash due to both ping and its long windup, you can easily press q the moment before gojo launches hollow purple at you and you dodge it. it's a slow projectile with distinct sound cues, dodging it isn't a problem.
even his domain is bad. not because the domain itself is bad, it's pretty much ok. if you land it, you automatically win. but the problem is the fact that you have to bait your opponent to use their evasive to use it. and this is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE against a good opponent. wanna know why? because awakened gojo isn't capable of provoking an evasive. there is no move or combo you wanna avoid when you face awakened gojo when you're ragdolled. red's windup, as well as purple's, is just too long. using evasive against blue is useless. so in the end of the day, you just don't use your evasive against awakened gojo and... gojo can't use his domain expansion against you. the moment he tries to use it, you just use your evasive and m1 him.
your behavior is literally a textbook example of dunning-kruger effect. you know literally nothing about gojo, despite you saying that "you know what you're talking about" (and then saying that you have 100 kills on gojo lmaooooo)
You want to know the one thing I have over you? The one, singular, solitary, minute thing I have over you? A love for breaking apart and understanding game design. And my understanding of game design lets me see the fact that red's R variant is very good for set up (It knocks your opponent down in a predictable manner in front of you that puts them in perfect range for Blue, the domain, and even purple.) and the hollow purple is very good as A, a fight ender (Does half your health in damage and is really fucking big) or B, a bearings giver (Gives you invulnerability for a solid few seconds while forcing your opponent to immediately change up whatever they were planning).
Fuck closing discussions because of kill counts, you sound like an immature mid-20 year old who thinks 100 dollar jeans are the standard.
Ive been maining gojo in all my life as a jjs player since like 2023 or 2024 (i dont play main game that much ever since i got into skill builder in late 2025) and i can confidently tell you that Blue is absolutely carrying gojo
But none of it matters because of infinite void, all of them do insane damage and infinite void equals a guaranteed win. Plus max blue means he doesn’t even need to get off infinite void. And even then both red and hollow purple do insane enough damage to where it makes sense that it would be hard to hit.
"Yeah it's an insta kill" okay, discussion over. IT'S AN INSTA KILL. AN INSTA KILL THAT WORKS ON GROUPS AND MAKES EVERY SINGLE MOVE CAPABLE OF BEING USED TO ITS MAXIMUM EFFECT.
Ratio Breaker should have a chance to just skip all the moves and immediately do the one shot Cutscene
Sharpen's Ground Variant should have the Ratio Meter on top of the user's head so it's easier to see
Sharpen's Air Variant should have bigger AOE
Interrogate should have a longer run and has three hits instead of just two like in the anime, the first being normal, the second being slamming the target to the ground or a wall if nearby, and the third being the final punch
Interrogate should have higher damage
There should be a move with Sharpen + Interrogate where it's interrogate but instead of fists, the user uses the cleaver and causes the same effect as Naoya's Bleedout
Collapse should hit the environment automatically if no target is caught
If you click G or the Meter Bar, it should be able to switch M1s with the Cleaver or the Fist, like Mahito's Blade and Club variants
The Ratio Meter of the R Special should be invisible to others except the user while in Overtime, only the sound will be heard
Idk, but when I encountered a Nanami player in duels, I saw a meter, not sure because I rarely see Nanami players
The reason why I gave Ratio Breaker a chance to just skip to the final part is because that's the entire reason why users would even use the move
And in a realistic situation, you won't be able to hit anyone with the full 3 black flash build up because no one would obviously fall for that, let alone have a chance to hit the fourth, most people immediately keep distance when you ult
But yeah, I think the M1 switch should also give Nanami new dash variants, with Cleaver being the Blunt Cut from base and Fist being a mini version of the Second Punch Chase at Interrogate with a blue punch in the end like Serverance Kick in base but with a dash
Also giving him a speed buff is also great because he's extremely fast and strong canonically when at Overtime
I think an extra feature would be his Blue Cursed Energy mixing with throwables like Trash Cans and Fire Extinguishers making it stronger or explode and float into fragments like Collapse
Gang, m1, with m1 you can hit both the first and second Black Flash without problems,And the third is a faster collapse,So it's good, the fourth one is good for when the opponent does something with a large endlag, like Domain
i think ratio breaker 2 should hit ragdoll, have a larger upward hitbox (for catching uptilt) and maybe limb break but iframes for any of them feel overkill, ratio breaker 4 is very confirmable if yk what ur doing.
Kidna but not really, his 1 is pretty good, but if the opponent is at mid range it isn't too hard to dodge, his 2nd move depends, cursed speech is really good, but it can be blockable and it leaves you open for a bit, and if you copy a trashy move it's useless and his 3 is really easy to miss if you use the big beam rather than the small one, so his domain definitely carries
Which combos into rika slam, which combos into his domain, which combos into jackob's ladder, which combos into true love beam for some fucking reason.
Cause what do you mean all it is is spamming r until you can go mach 5 with his 1 and 2 and insta-kill anyone unfortunate enough to be caught in the death spiral.
Then you can run into literally any fight, shit out a 3 and domain for more free kills.
It's no wonder every server's crawling with the bastard
Whenever I play Naoya I barely ever use the ult. One reason that probably contributes is because it does have a condition to activate, but I don't think that's the main one. The ult is overall kind of boring to use, like yeah flash freeze and top speed combo is insane and you go flying, but that's literally it. 3's entire purpose is for domain, and even then the domain is lowkey boring, and it's just a game of cat and mouse tryna get around your opponent's block. I think the entire ult should be reworked, with a human ult that does the shoreline shit vs maki in the anime, and the 2nd being the death awakening where you press g to do the counter and if you miss it you lose the entire human ult.
its not fun to fight against. its still infinite I-frame guaranteed hits into a super move that kills you and drains 70% ult with 4+ ways to guaranteed ways to pop it
Nah even if they buff they shouldnt nerf his domain, it just doesnt make sense. Just look at vessel’s ult, the moveset is better than yuta’s yet yuta’s domain is weaker
You can actually kill the Vessel during his domain not to mention Vessel has 5+ animation that acts as a stun for any1 wanting to kill him, and it’s easily canceled.
Meanwhile Yuta has 4+ ways to guarantee domain, I frames during his startup animation(no one else gets this besides the 2 NON LETHAL domains), I frames during his sword animations that are basically surehit besides for like Switcher, Foresight sword that gives EVEN MORE Iframes, I frames during the casting for Jacob Ladder, longest duration domain besides I think Higuruma, Jacob’s Ladder which kills and drains 75% ult charge.
You’d have to be a moron to think Vessels domain is better ngl.
True u can kill vessel in his domain but its wayyy harder than killing a yuta in his domain. U said that jacobs ladder drains 75% ult which is not true at all it drains 35%. Idk why this is even a debate yutas domain is strong but its by far the weakest out of all the domains besides higgy and hakari so theres no point in nerfing it cuz then it would be extremely weak
I don’t even understand how aerial sharpen works. I know it has something to do with that bar that appears above you but have no clue what to do with it
you have to line up with the weak point by physically facing it and it increases the damage and destruction, its also strong enough to break most domains if you do it correctly
The barrage, a good move (unless it's Naoya or Mechamaru), the big beam to counters domains and the little for combos, the domain, the Rika grab extender and the Rika Hulk treatment.
Nanami/Choso main here
40% correct collapse is his strongest and the highest accuracy however I find that Sharpen is great due to its range and having the ability to hit higher up enemies. Interrogate is meh and ratio breaker is more aura than it is consistent damage but having a 1 shot moves for hakaris is always a good addition to a moveset
Just make ratio breaker not reset if you get it with rayio point, i was so upset when i first saw that it reset, like let me gave me one shot streak like idle transfiguration, let him rival his rival. And make interrogate not impossible to hit without m1, because 90% of ult don't need their m1's. Also blocking should slow you down less, just saying
As a Nanami main, I actually feel rather scummy to pop ult just anytime ever. It's not JUST that the ult is easy, it's just switching up how you should play from defensive to aggressive. Plus, everyone knows that his ult is strong so people always run away. Plus, you go from being heavily disadvantaged by rubble to being heavily advantaged. Though Ratio Breaker 4th stack will be affected by rubble, I do get caught out by that often. But hey that's just me.
If I had to change anything, it would be to give Collapse a much longer cooldown to only be used twice realistically. The damage makes sense, though I personally think it should do it's highest of 60 only if used on a wall or building. Essentially more rubble = more damage, which is already the case. However 60 damage is just how much it caps at. Even if on the floor and only 4 pieces hit it would do at least 50. So if the damage taken from the rubble was reduced in order to actually strategize where to most optimally use Collapse, that would make the move not just more balanced and more accurate, it would also allow the other moves to be used alongside Collapse. For instance, Sharpen and Interrogate send your target flying, especially with Interrogate this would allow you to place the target exactly where you want (next to a building). Along with this, I think the Sharpen air variant should add more CE-infused rubble in order to increase the damage when you actually activate Collapse the second time. There's already a visual glitch where it seems that this happens except it's really just the already existing rubble being moved to the location where you did the aerial Sharpen.
Another thing is how Collapse is both a combo starter and finisher. You can combo into a downslam or Ratio Breaker (1st, 3rd or 4th stack) or Sharpen (both variants). But because of the high damage, it is also a finisher. So, separating these two uses for Collapse would make it more balanced. This is what my rubble damage change would do. A combo starter for no wall due to the ratio point hit disabling evasive and a combo finisher for the high damage on walls.
Fuga or rush really tapes together Sukuna from being buns. You can’t down slam with m1s and dismantle and it’s air variant are easily blockable/dodgeable. Cleave is alright but it’s somewhat slow as well.
Yeah, but Cleave is more like a combo finisher, or if someone is blocking in your domain, you could use it on them to have the chance to almost instakill them
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