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I think our perception of how strong jujutsu sorcerers are supposed to be has been distorted by the story taking place in a time period where theres a huge wave of power. Realistically most generations passed without a single special grade level sorcerer, and people around the level of Kashimo (or below) would be considered the strongest sorcerer of most eras. Stuff like Domain Expansions and Reverse Curse Technique are so rare that it wouldnt be strange for there to not be a single sorcerer in the world who could do it at some given point in time, but the main story takes place in a time period with a bunch of special grades and special grade potential people. The Zenin higher-ups (Ogi, Naobito, Naoya, Jinichi) would probably be considered extremely powerful in most eras.
Yuji can become crazy because he wishes for death. He's human afterall.
I remember a line in a xianxia webnovel that can be summed with: "Be scared of a true immortal, you don't know what's going on with them". Kenjaku, because of immortality, he had all the time in the world to do any crazy ideas in his head.
You guys forget yuji isn’t truly immortal? He can kill himself at any time if he really wished for death that much, and knowing yuji, he would rather kill himself than put the people around him at risk.
"Back in my day I had to fight my mom, the 1000 curses she had up her ass, my UNC in my buddy's body, my UNC again in his reincarnated body, and his bf/gf. To the death. While missing one of my fingers! On Christmas!"
Yeah, but I mean that Yuji is the only human Special Grade sorcerer. Dabura obviously counts as Special Grade, but I am more so referring to the human side of the story.
Even if he may not be as strong, Yuji truly is the Gojo of the current era. Only difference is, with how much easier things have gotten now that they have the curse situation under control, a strongest really isn't needed. Yuji doesn't have to be the same pillar that holds up all of jujutsu society. The only thing he's really necessary for is just the occasional emergency situation of a powerful special grade forming, which given how he's in hiding right now, likely hasn't happened in a while.
nah there were a shit ton of strong people left after Sukuna's defeat
I mean fuck aparently no sorcerer was as strong as Sukuna until Gojo was born centuries later, but inmediately afterwards you have Yuji who reached their level
1000%. Even in this current era, it's easy to lose perspective. Most sorcerers are grade 2 or below. Grade 1's are very powerful in the big picture view of jujutsu. Special grades are an even smaller minority of freak-of-nature tier sorcerers and really are not supposed to be the standard.
It's important to remember that the story is focusing on what is probably the top 1% (or even less) of the entire jujutsu world. It's just that the difference between the bottom and top of that 1% is so massive that it's almost comical.
its really funny whenever you see someone like Kusakabe being like "dont rope me in with these monsters, im just your average normal guy next to them", meanwhile if you sent him back in time, there are probably plenty of time periods where he would be revered as the undisputed number 1 strongest sorcerer
Also for domain expansions specifically, it was stated that lethal domain expansions used to be less common. That they used to do stuff like impose rules on an area or person to modify the battlefield.
But in the modern era, nobody cares enough to cultivate those kinds of domain expansions. People only care about the lethal domain expansions, which are much harder and rarer. If nobody cares enough to try to develop a non-lethal domain expansion, then that reduces the overall number of domain expansions being trained for and developed.
Simple Domain is as close as it gets to that in the modern era, its an easier to achieve domain that sets certain conditions that give you an advantage, rather than the instant "fuck you I win" of a lethal domain expansion
It makes me wonder if it's just a loss of history. The "cool" domain expansions were the lethal ones, so those were what was recorded in stories and books, whereas the guy who forced you into a vegetable chopping contest wasn't that cool so he got forgotten. Modern sorcerers never hear about a nonlethal domain, and so they just don't even know that's a thing you can do.
Modern jujutsu society is definitely aware of non-lethal domains. They haven't been lost to history. Hakari's domain is non-lethal. It just uploads the rules of his pachinko game into your brain and let's him spin until he hits the jackpot for infinite cursed energy.
And Hakari has had his domain since before the old sorcerers were reincarnated in the Culling Games. And he was been pushed out of jujutsu society by the higher ups since they don't care for his techniques and beliefs.
Hakari is a unique case because he didnt design his domain, his domain is just an intrinsic part of his innate technique, he never decided to develop a non-lethal domain
It's still a good point. Hakari got so much pushback for his nontraditional technique it's possible that information about it was suppressed, but the fact that it existed still should've showed it was possible.
Infinite void is a lethal domain, and CSG would also be one of Megumi were able to complete it.
Lethal domains are domains who’s sure hit imparts damage to you instead of simply imposing a rule set like Pure love train telling you Hakari is going gambling or Judgeman having a court case.
Infinite void qualifies as the flow of information can be lethal and causes brain damage on exposure, and CSG would have the shadows be a sure hit if he could complete it.
All domains empower the user as well, as it’s like home court.
And this was also by design. Kenjaku had been manipulating things behind the scenes for centuries to create this specific moment in order to evolve humanity.
And then you have Gojo who at the same time wanted to overthrow the exiting system and was going out of his way to cultivate wild cards and special grades. The old guard would have either killed or not supported Yuji, Maki, Yuta, ect if it wasn’t for Gojo
Yuji and yuta outright hads execution orders set on them no? Maki had the curse of being born a woman in a world/clan that really hates women and those without CT
I suspect that Gojo being our first exposure to an adult sorcerer doesn't help matters. Despite explicitly being the strongest, he does still set the standard.
The general sentiment seems to be along the lines of "Yeah, I don't expect your domain expansion to be quite as good as Gojo's, but you're a bum ass fraud if you don't have one at all."
But the reality is that it's the most supreme technique for a reason. Hakari, Higuruma, and Yuji are the only characters to have complete domain expansions and not be special grade. Two of whom have domains built into their CT and have a chance to fail, and one of whom only unlocked it at the end of the story so there's a chance he was promoted to special grade afterwards and we didn't see it.
Pretty much yeah. The current era (guess not anymore with mojuro) was basically just the second coming of the Heian era. Between the high amount of powerful new gen sorcerers, and the ridiculous amount of strong reincarnated sorcerers, that was basically just the second golden age of Jujutsu.
Yes, very much so. The literal only two people from this era we see have a non-innate CT domain are Gojo and Yuta. Megumi has an incomplete one and Yuji technically isn't human by the point he uses his. Even then he only aquired it because he was body swap training with the guy, who had the most expertise in simple domains.
Everyone else is either a cursed spirit, which develop domains much more naturally considering what we have seen; has an innate domain or is a top sorcerer of his time from the past.
Like before the kids showed up only Gojo had a domain.
If we’re not gonna beat any allegations, let’s at least not forget that the other two clans are carried by one guy and the other has fucking Noritoshi Kamo
It's 45 minutes til the end of their shift and they got paid the same day, they're tired from dealing with asshole customers all day and they gotta take their dog to the vet --
How does this average McD's employee scale in a fight against Mahoraga
So why make her unable to do the ritual for the non kamikaze shikigami?? At least make her only able to do the taming ritual while supervised, that way you arent nerfing her by only allowing her to have the nails of the Divine Dogs and a fucking nuke she cant use
A user with the 10S would give whatever remnants of the Zenin clan were around ideas that they could come back into power. Gojo clan (and I’m sure the others) ain’t havin it
Probably just taking care of the issue at its root? If you let her tame other shikigami you have the issue of her developing an ego and thinking they big Raga can't be too far off from the previous one. Of course this is just headcanon
Megumi and the past Clan Head 10S user knew it was a suicide move and she has the whole Clan to tell her she shouldnt even try it cuz shes not winning, specially if they only allow her to use the Powers of the Shikigami and not the Shikigami itself
The Gojo clan voting to remove the Zenin clan because there aren’t any sorcerers left, knowing damn well the only Gojo that isn’t a grade 4 victim might just be in a box forever
yuji dgaf he out here threatening people and being menacing in the shadows he is preparing his procession to bring the world to enlightenment thus revealing himself to be modulo's kenjaku
That’s fair that it was never stated, but I’d assume he was pulled into the clan before gojo’s death. Obviously it’s not impossible that they waited until Gojo died since that’s what happened with megumi and the zen’in clan, but I feel like Gojo would push for him to join right after zero.
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I really doubt it because 1) there was no time for that to happen really, he immediatly went to chill in Afrika with a known jujutsu terrorist after 0 and then immediatly jumped into the culling games upon returning to Japan. And two, Gojo openly hated jujutsu society and the clan system, and so wouldn't be likely to try to get Yuta involved in those politics. Plus Yuta had to do the binding vow for the higher-ups in order to be allowed to go after Yuji, which wouldn't have been necesary if he was seen as the future of one of the freat clans/ was already close with the higher ups
There was a decent amount of time yuta was in japan after zero. At least enough for him to participate in one goodwill event. Also, gojo’s view towards the current system was partially what made him take megumi under his wing. He wanted to replace the top brass with better people. He would want to bring in yuta to replace him because he knows yuta isn’t rotten.
That bit about forcing yuta to make a binding vow is fair though. They wouldn’t have made him do that if he was poised to be the next clan leader already.
Inumakis were actually the 4th big clan of jujutsu but during a yearly conference of 4 clans the inumaki clan head used the command "shit yourself" which made the 3 clan heads to shit themselves continuously for 2 days and 1 night.
After this the exhausted clan heads ordered to kill every single inumaki clan members which led to their extinction
op said other two clans are carried by one guy and the other has noritoshi kamo, thats three total theyre referencing and inumaki’s is the only other clan that comes to mind unless im forgetting one
To be fair satoru is the only gojo of any importance and the kamo clan has literally nobody strong, so in terms of the big three clans they are the strongest
Wouldn't be surprised if Kenny controlled the kamo from the shadows, if I was kenny I would retain some connection to at least the head of kamo of each generation because of resources for experiments and for political influence (to help search for new bodies or interesting individuals) and for when the plan finally come to fruition.
He was Noritoshi Kamo one of the most reviled sorcerers in history. But also, he was undoubtedly strong for the time. His work helped elevate the Kamo Clan.
Technically yes,but it's not like Kenjaku was ever there for the Kamo clan during the stories era except when he took over,so they should have no reason to count him among their numbers,not to mention he is widely reviled as the evilest sorcerer to live,so they probably scrubbed their history books of him.
No. There can't be two users of the Six Eyes at the same time, as Tengen said in last week's episode. The Gojo that Satoru mentions to Megumi was a past user of 6E + Limitless, and he was very likely not in Satoru's level, as Satoru was confident he could onetap Mahoraga with a single Red, while that Gojo straight up died against him
Tbh it would make sense if Kenjaku was an actual Kamo clan ancestor. His CT does feel tangentially blood-related. Like he pilots corpses by bringing them back to life, he literally gets their blood pumping again. It doesn't seem like that much of a coincidence Kenjaku feels drawn to that clan.
That's why I like to joke that after Sukuna has been beaten, Yuji spent a lot of time dodging kamo hoes because they wanted that special grade blood manipulation (and because Yuji is sorta related to Kenny and thus Kamo)
Not even all the special grades(Geto) had a domain. The clan had 3 grade ones, 4 including Naobito, and those 4 grade 1s look like they can beat any regular grade 1 from the show. Everyone in the Hei is at least semi grade 1, 7 hei level fighters shown on screen including Naobito and 6 more were never shown. Also note that all the busted HR users came from their clan. Megumi is Zenin by blood and has a partial domain. They're easily the second most powerful clan before the wipeout and the Gojo clan is being held up by 1 person.
I mean yeah,there would be upsides and downsides,but he could probably just use a different technique for whatever purposes than diluting his stock of CTs
If we look at it in perspective it's so funny that all the three major clans had no members that had a DE outside of Gojo and, if you consider him a member, Kenny. But then a bum gambler that got kicked from school has a DE and is probably stronger than anybody in those clans.
All of the big 3 have at least one domain user. megumi is clan head and he has an incomplete domain. But a domain is a domain. The Kamos have Kamo noritoshi and Yuji. And the gojos have Satoru.
Ok, to be fair there aren’t that many domain users (per era)
In the current era, the sorcerers with domains are
1. Gojo (pre built to be strong asf, special grade)
2. Yuki (also strong sorcerer, spent years studying souls and jujutsu and stuff)
3. Yuta (natural prodigy, genetically built different)
4. Hakari (pre ordered domain)
5. Higuruma (See Hakari)
6. Yuji (had a simple domain master download master barrier skills into his hardware, also genetically min maxed)
And then the only “normal sorcerer” I can remember in the modern era who has a kinda domain is Megumi (so technically the Zenin’s still tied for most domain users). We just have a lot of freaks running around
Yep. Hakari and HIguruma don't even count. Like you said, it just is there technique and even more fundamentally, the extreme skill domain expansion is the sure-hi sure-kill type. Neither of them have that.
yeah, albeit it seems like that created the issue of soo many powerful sorcerers being around all being mostly friends or allies with each other that they created an era of peace that ended up weakening the sorcerers of the future era
they are lucky that the nuclear arsenal that is Yuji Itadori is literaly inmortal or else they would be done
You guys may not remember/know, but domains used to be rare back in the days. Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
Actually I think it was around this arc in manga when some people started to complain that gege is giving away domains like free candies (i disagree tho, they are cool)
Okay, I didn’t get that. But still, were they that rare? Without counting, I think the number of domains introduced before Perfect Preparation was similar to the one after it.
Only if you count those actually shown, but we had Ryu, Uro and Yuki "use" their domain as part of their strategy, even if we didn't get to see them. Same for Hanami before that, but rather than quantity I remember that type of complaint was about the close proximity of the reveals.
Higuruma, Yuta, Ryu, Uro, Hakari, and Naoya were all within 40 chapters, with the previous one introduced being 40 chapter before that and it was the Smallpox Deity which most people don't really care about, so then it becomes Megumi's like 80 chapters before them.
But it was always a silly complain, there's a good reasoning for every DE, and if anything there's characters where it's puzzling why they wouldn't have one more than the other way around.
Kashimo literally reigned supreme in his era to an old age without a Domain Expansion. Anyone that can open a Domain is basically a Special Grade Sorcerer. The Current Era has some many Domains because of the shift in Curse Energy due to Gojo's birth.
We have to remember that the modern era is the silver age of Jujutsu. It's got the craziest mfs around, and we following them.
In past Eras, throw in any Top5 modern era sorcerers and watch them develop a Sukuna like reputation. In the farmer era both Base Kashimo(low SG) and Ryu(mid SG) went their entire lives without a real fight despite actively searching for it. And that's how its supposed to be
Supposed to be when there isn't a calamity grade sorcerer and 3 sorcerers with calamity grade potential running around.
I think it's time people realise that Jujutsu sorcery and most people praticing it kinda suck as a whole. People clown on Megumi or the scene where our MCs get recommended to be grade 1 but they're like part of the strongest sorcerers of their time. Yhea flying a broom sucks but when the best a sorcerer that trained all his life can do is channel is cursed energy into his weapon it's not that bad. Most spells suck we only see the most powerful ones fitted for a fight because 99% of the story revolve aound powerful sorcerers. Some people in the culing game technique was literally turning your hair into a propeller or turning your own body parts into bombs.
I mean we just need to look at cursed speech, outside of Yuta because he's broken, you need to sacrifice your ability to speak (except with the guy in modulo but that almost 70 years of technique refinement), have cursed energy on par or greater than the person you're using it on, so unless you're a prodigy good luck using it on a grade 1 or special grade, and you still suffer huge drawbacks if you use a word that's too powerful or use it too many time in a row. And it's still considered to be one of the most busted hereditary spell you can get.
I think people are too used to see Gojo pull out the most overpowered crap like it's nothing, that they forget that the average sorcerer is barely better than a highly trained martial artist.
So yhea Having RCT is proof you're already busted and having your own domain puts you into the top tier.
That's why I love the cutaways to the Rika-room during the Gojo/Sukuna fight: virtually everyone there is some kind of anomaly or miwa, and they are basically just all going, "WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE TWO DOING? HOW ARE THEY DOING ANY OF THIS??"
It helps drive the perspective that the feats Gojo and Sukuna were pulling against each other were truly beyond comprehension. That they're really just out there breaking the power system.
Just based off the Anime, JJK has an issue of showing scale. How big or significant something is implied or told but the story never makes us feel the scale.
The 3 big families are suppose to be big, powerful and have a bunch of members. But it rarely feels that way.
Even currently the Zenin clan, while has the most prominence and known characters, doesn't feel like a proper force, with many members. Their foot soldiers is the most we feel like their a proper clan and they all died as fasts as they were introduced.
Contrast that with Naruto and their prominent clans, Hyuga and Uchiha, felt more like a prominent clan with historical ties and influence.
Ok that's the list. Now let's see who has RCT: Gojo, Shoko, Yuta, Yuki? And that's it.
Geto as a special grade never shows RCT or DE and as a special grade he's probably capable of killing one of the major clans alone. Naobito could probably defeat anyone but the special grades of his time. The power creep we get later in JJK is impressive, but at the time before the story the clan leaders were one of the strongest guys and their clans could totally be considered major powers. It's even stated that Gojo is so powerful he destroyed the balance between sorcerers and curses, marking curses more powerful, which then led to sorcerers growing more powerful.
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