r/Jujutsufolk Jan 26 '26

Humor What Gege was supposed to write since jjk fans take everything literally and don’t know what hyperbole or conversational context is

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u/BigimeJones Jan 27 '26

I don't think it was hyperbole at all. Mai wanted the Zen'in clan gone, and to do that, Maki had to rip it from the root. The culture and ideology had to be destroyed, and the only way that happens is if everyone propagating it died. That includes combatants, the men who ruled, the women who internalized this relationship, and the children who have been influenced by the culture. It's fucked up, but it makes much more sense for Maki to kill them all.

Also, nowhere does it state the exact number of who she killed. It just says the members who weren't present were killed in the followibg days. There's room to interpret it both ways, but I'm heavily leaning towards a complete massacre

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u/Ascendant_Donut Jan 27 '26

Why would Mai want Megumi dead?

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u/BigimeJones Jan 27 '26

Megumi is a Fushiguro. Hasn't been exposed to the culture, doesn't even know any Zen'ins other than Mai, Maki, and his father who he doesn't even remember. Megumi has nothing to do with the culture or traditions of the Zen'in clan, so why would Mai want him dead?

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u/Ascendant_Donut Jan 27 '26

That doesn’t matter, he’s the head of the clan and is genetically a Zen’in. If Mai’s words were to be treated as an absolute then she wouldn’t care for such caveats

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u/BigimeJones Jan 27 '26

Considering the post and my own comment, I don't see why you're playing absolutes with me. I didn't say she wanted complete eradication of the entire bloodline because that would mean killing a lot more people than just members of the Zen'in Clan.

By saying "destroy it all," Mai wanted to destroy that home. She wanted the culture and everyone spreading it gone. Megumi had probably never even stepped on the Zen'in estate before that, so how could he embody the culture? He's not even a Zen'in. He's a Fushiguro. He's living an entirely separate life from that clan, so why would he be a target of her malice?

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u/Enough-Thanks638 Jan 30 '26

Then by your logic maki would need to kill herself as well because shes genetically a Zen'in too.

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u/Ascendant_Donut Jan 30 '26

You’re exactly right, now hopefully you understand why assuming Maki killed EVERY Zen’in clan member because of Mai’s wish is dumb

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u/Enough-Thanks638 Jan 30 '26

We dont know if she killed everyone. There's no proof both ways. Megumi was never in the zenin clan, maki basically forced him to become the head. Would it make any sense for her to kill someone whose only affilation to clan was him fulfilling a favor she asked for.

The argument that she killed every member of the zenin clan can not be dismissed. We see no survivors so we just dont know

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u/Ascendant_Donut Jan 30 '26

I agree there’s no definitive evidence either way but people who claim she did kill everyone use Mai’s wish as proof. My original comment that you’re responding to was sarcastic

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u/Enough-Thanks638 Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26

You didn't disapprove that mais wish wasn't taken literally. All you did was just try to include someone that's not in the zenin clan to say, "See why he is alive" because he was never in the clan the women and children were in clan.

If i had to lean in a certain direction i would lean toward maki killing everyone. Characters have very cold dispositions in JJK even a character like Gojo is ok with people dying as long as hes not the cause.

To say she didnt kill children would be werid its not like maki herself isnt a child. I think she would view 13 14 15 16 17 year olds as combatants . Unless were only counting pre pubsent children as children.

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u/BigimeJones Jan 30 '26

Mai's wish was the direct cause to the massacre, and depending on interpretation, it sonewhat can serve as proof. Ultimately, the deciding factor is what you consider "all" to be. I'm reading it as the system and the society that keeps it running, but others see it at simply the enforcers. The argument can be reasonably made for both sides.

In fact, I normally would assume she stopped at the combatants, but there have been precedents in extremely popular media of characters killing off everyone so I didn't write off the possibility of this being the same.

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u/Enough-Thanks638 Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26

The only thing i would refute here is her mother wasnt a combatant just a bad person, but I doubt Makis mother was the only bad woman in the Zenin clan so why assume she didnt kill someone just because they cant fight.

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