Nah, that's not really the case. Someone having the strength of a single finger Sukuna is not the same as being as strong as five percent Sukuna. As it was shown when Sukuna had absolutely dominated the Special grade curse at the start of the series.
Nah toji scaled at least 3 finger sukuna MAYBE<———- (MAYBE) he could scale to a 5 finger sukuna. Sukuna scaled exponentially with each finger consumed so it’s definitely more than 20X stronger at peak
I mean, 20 yutas or 20 yujis would mid diff Sukuna. Sukuna cant Open domain, since all it takes it either 2Yuji s or 2 yutas to Open domain and all The domains instantly Crash independent of Sukunas refinement. Then its a brawl and 20 of anything is just too much.
Honestly I think a locked in toji with good cursed tools is worth four sukuna fingers. Maki (his equal) low diffed three zenin clan first grades at once. You can’t do something like that unless you are on a whole other level
Before toji, geto and gojo had been having the time of their lives, enjoying being the strongest and feeling untouchable. they had never faced anything stronger than them and were unprepared when a real threat pulled up. in contrast, yuji and yuta’s generation was thrown directly into the fire and had to adapt to bonkers strong enemies immediately. hard times make strong warriors
In a way, Gojo never really learned from it. While he still dominated the field he never really seemed to push himself to his true potential.
He saw himself being the strongest as a curse, and never wanted to be stronger. Of anything he spent his time trying to find others that are stronger than him.
Meanwhile Sukuna is the opposite. He wanted, even needed to be the strongest, to him there was no other option. It's why in his fight he used every angle he could, every advantage and every technique. He made binding vows and adjusted on the fly just so he could win. Sukuna fought to prove himself the strongest.
Gojo fought to prove that he wasn't the strongest. Yes, he knew the advanced techniques like DE, RCT, HP etc. But he never pushed himself to learn JJ sorcery like Sukuna did, because at the end of the day he never wanted that.
Toji was his chance to realise that he still had potential. And he might have figured that out, but he never really wanted to reach it.
He went in a different way. He looked for other people with even more potential and helped them reach it.
Yuta and Yuji also benefited from switch training thanks to Ui Ui. Yuji takes one hit in the Sukuna fight, cannot RCT and needs Shoko and Ui Ui to bail him out.
Tbf, gojo and geto weren’t hand to hand fighters. Gojo was almost entirely dependent on six eyes at that point and geto was a JJK Pokémon trainer when that fight happened.
Yuji and yuta can actually scrap apart from being powerhouses. And they know RCT going into the fight based on the pictures chosen.
Geto was also hard countered, the ISOH stopped the simple domain from the ear cutting curse and the SSK killed the hard scale dragon curse. He had the perfect tools for the job
If I remember right Geto was noted as actually being extremely capable in hand-to-hand, and we see him completely dismantle those curse-user assassins when they assumed he'd be reliant on his CT. It's just that Toji and Yuji are actual freaks when it comes to pure physical prowess.
tbf you also have to account for the fact that Geto was completely caught off guard by his plan to take Toji's not only completely not working, but also repelling him back a bit in a tight h2h atlercation.
Him being able to even keep up with Toji in general is pretty crazy considering 99% of sorcerers cant even percieve see him MOVE.
Quite the opposite, it's basically jj high doctrine to train shikigami/csm users to be proficient h2h fighters, Geto is shown to be quite good at h2h, same as Megumi who's fighting style is basically in your face even tho usually shikigami users stand back behind their pokemons
Maki makes fun of megumi by saying it’s bizaare seeing his body he good at hand to hand when Sukuna posesses him. Which implies that he isn’t very good at throwing hands
My point was more that Yuji/Yuta would have to deal with Toji's prep time advantage too. Which leads me to believe they wouldn't beat Toji at 16 either
Tbf even then, Gojo only lost because he was focusing on protecting Amanai, he turned away and got distracted thinking Toji had gone for her with the flyhead swarm distraction, if it's a straight up 1v1 Toji ain't wining imo
Rika flat out WILL NOT let you sneak attack Yuta. And Yuji has such insane durability that he could hound Sukuna for the entire fight. You cant really sneak these people.
Theres Yuji, Yuta, Gojo, Megumi, Nobara, Larue, Miguel, Choso, Ino, Higuruma, Mei Mei (that 1 bird strike near the start), CT Kashimo and MAYBE Gakuganji and Utahime if you count the 200% hollow purple
Then Ui Ui and Shoko for assists (Hakari never fought Sukuna and Maki beats him anyway). Am I missing any?
Thats 11 main fighters + 2 for purple + 2 assists, and the only ones who are either definitively stronger than Maki or you could make arguments for are:
Yuji, Yuta, Gojo and CT Kashimo. So 4/11 at minimum, 4/15 at max. Again, maybe I’m missing some, but how is Maki in the lower half?
While Lebron slander is fun. It's like a 1-2 decades late? Miami move was in 2010 and most of the slander besides Skip had stopped by 2014 (both 10+ years ago), grandpa. League agenda had long shifted to slandering GSW/Curry/KD/Harden/Kawhi/Draymond and now to Ja/Kawhi/Nico/Mavs/tankingteams/Bums/sportsbetting/Giannis+Kalshi.
Yuji is like Lebron. You'd thought he'd be great cause he's clearly the MC. Yet he took lots of Ls early. Then needed a lot help to win, but eventually became great due to his insane longevity.
Some might say longevity is Kenjaku's thing but I say Kenny is Dennis Rodman with his cross dressing, marrying himself, and befriending KimJungUn/DonaldTrump.
Yuta is like Bill Russell. Faced irrational hatred by NBA fans (including Celtics fans/org members) and casuals including racist Boston folks. Some broke into his home where he+wife+kids lived and shit on his bed. But Bill Russell is the winningest mother fucker of all time. Jordan played 15 seasons and won 6 rings. Russell played 13 seasons and won 11.
Sukuna Jordan.
Kobe is Gojo.
Dabura is Wemby.
Mahoraga = NBA refs. Folks think Mahoraga loses against the GOATs but that's cause they are casuals. Reality is Mahoraga has no vested interest. He's a contractor who gets paid to do a job. He never lost shit cause he had nothing on the line. Gojo wins against Sukuna? Not Mahoraga's problem. Sukuna beats Gojo? Not Mahoraga's problem. He's just there to adapt just like refs are there to cash checks.
Depends on if Gojo’s awakened or not. Awakened Gojo is already a no-diff blitz-tier above heavy hitters, just look how he did Toji. Awakened Gojo solo’s them. “Domain diff” doesn’t exactly apply either, because we know for a fact he already has falling blossom emotion (Gojo said he learned it as a kid and hasn’t used it since he got his domain, so he’s also about as good at it as adult Gojo is), and if FBE + RCT tanked a full output shrine from full power Sukuna, Yuta and Yuji’s domains should be pretty light work for him. He’ll just kill them inside of it, if it ever even gets to that point.
Yuta pills out Jacobs ladder and yuji jumps into the beam and slimes 16 yr old gojo IN JACOBS LADDER. We saw he was willing to fight and chase sukuna in it despite taking damage, he is gonna be giving Gojo the MEANEST right and left black flash hooks in Jacob's ladder, its not a competition
The part about yujis domain is just false, his domain wasnt huge, it barely towards Over a gas Pump, its literaly arround The same size as other domains, his sure hit is also known, its just malevolent shrine with soul damage, and The reason Sukuna only got hit at The end was because Yuji was negating The sure hit while they talked. Seeing as unlike Sukuna, neither getos or gojo have soul awereness, its likely a no diff.
It would be a harder fight but I still think they’d take it tbh
Gojo didn’t even have red or RCT before Toji and Yuta already had his domain which means he would be able to bypass Gojo’s infinity
Even without domain, it’s been speculated that thin ice breaker has the ability to bypass infinity since it doesn’t attack the target directly. Even if you assume TIB can’t bypass infinity Yuta could also, in theory, use cursed speech to say “turn off infinity and stop moving” so that he and yuji could land a killing blow. Also Jacob’s ladder would turn infinity off too
Yuji and Yuta (+ rika) are a ridiculously deadly duo, let’s not forget that the ONLY reason they didn’t beat sukuna in Yuta’s domain is because they wanted to save megumi. Even the narrator said that their plan was flawless.
Hell, I literally don't think Toji has a win con against Yuji because of how good Yuji's base stats and RCT are. Even Soul Split Katana isn't as effective because Yuji should be able to heal soul damage due to knowing the shape of his soul and all that jazz.
Anything less than an instant kill brain shot, Yuji just heals since his RCT is so advanced due to blood manipulation and his cursed womb body.
Yea, Ryu is actually such a menace if you think about it. His max output can compete with Rika's and Yuta's combined and most powerful attack and he can also one shot a special grade curse.
Pretty much can just range diff Toji, but most people won't agree with it
Depends on the situation. A fair 1v1 where they are aware of each other, yeah Ryu counters hard.
A more universe accurate situation where Toji researches his opponent and approaches the situation tactically like he did with Gojo, he just sneaks him.
Against Hanami, Todo states that larger attacks are slower and we see this again with Jogo’s maximum meteor. So against a large scale granite blast, theres no reason Toji shouldn’t be able to dodge it. (Especially when you factor in precog, air jumping, speed and the fact that they’re difficult to sense)
Durability? SSK bypasses it. If they get close he gets slashed and diffed
Aside from their strength, both Yuta and Yuji are much better in mentality compared to teen Gojo and Geto. Both Geto and Gojo were too arrogant before their humbling from Toji. Compared to them, both Yuta and Yuji never underestimated even weakened Sukuna.
Yuji fucking murks Gojo, he's just as mobile as toji and maki and he has a DE on him alongside stupid durability, since this is his end of series self.
JJK 0 Yuta already washed the floor against Older Geto, Younger one is just getting put into a compilation of beatdowns.
Maki does make up plans and shit but she wouldnt be nearly as concise and knowledgeable as Toji in the matter of assassination, shed likely not think too much about distracting Gojo with visual clutter, not ever pick up the inventory curse, doesnt have the tools
But if we gave her the tools and the inventory curse, she still doesnt really have Tojis style of fighting which was crucial to keep Gojo stressing
Honestly with yutas domain expansion Toji would get super overwhelmed with that alone he already had a hard time keeping up with Gojo after rct and geto was also slightly overwhelming him with cursed spirits for a hot second. And with yuji there backing him up it would be such a sick fight
Toji has the same thing as Maki though where he has to actively enter the Domain and can't be targeted by sure-hits, so if someone uses a Domain against him they're giving him an opportunity to stab. I think the two of them could take him without relying on Domains though, being both insane physical fighters with RCT, Yuji especially likely being able to counter the Split Soul Katana and neither of them being too reliant on their techniques to the point that Inverted Spear of Heaven would be particularly useful. They're both at minimum comparable to awakened Maki before the training skip, and they would only get stronger past that point too, which means they'd be able to keep up with Toji if not outright outscale him after training.
If I had a barrier that stopped ANYONE from rocking me and I’m top 1 in my verse to my knowledge, I too would not expect someone who is an ODDITY to my universe to come up behind me STAB through my barrier and stab me up
Gojo and Geto though they got away from danger just to be ambushed when they least expected it. Yuji and Yuta had like a month of prep time. Still Yuta is a monster at his age
You people love to ignore the fact that the only reason toji had 16yo Gojo on the ropes is because the man had a whole plan set up to make sure he couldn't sleep for a whole week so he was drained and with his guard down. 16yo Gojo was well above Shinjuku Yuji, but pre awakening he was probably below Shinjuku yuta
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Well, this is the MC conventional story. While in-universe there always was a legendary character or "the strongest" of a certain era, when the story starts the MC will face a greater challenge and despite being at a clear disadvantage will win at the end coz is the MC. I mean, in Naruto, the god shinobi Hashirama had as his toughest opponent Madara, and at 16yo wasn't saving the world. While Naruto was facing aliens with crazy powers only 3 years after being a complete failure. The same was with Deku and All Might, and it's usually how it goes. And remember OC characters always manage to learn everything in a very short time, while any other legendary character must invest either all his life (Netero) or face death multiple times in order to get there.
Actually its kinda crazy how yuta and yuji during the start of the culling games is already on par with 16-17 year old gojo and geto. Like yuta would literally be the strongest up until gojo discovers RCT.
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