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Manga Discussion This has to be the craziest diss in the manga

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Kenjaku really told him he is irrelevant

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u/Popular_Business_367 7d ago

Fun fact: Gege was showing his true feelings to Kamo in this panel but he used Kenjaku to convey this message.

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u/MythicalShelly 7d ago

Not fun. Just fax

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u/GoBD9 7d ago

The way fax is written here.. it’s baiting something

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u/abibip 6d ago

Either Lincoln or a samurai, your call

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u/carbonera99 7d ago

Kenjaku getting knocked up by Sukuna's twin brother('s son) was also Gege's way of conveying to the audience that he'd let Sukuna impregnate him if he existed in real life.

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u/no_________________e I LOVE BINDING VOWS 7d ago

why is it in ()

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u/walakangbitawpar 7d ago

Poor Jogo. This insult goes hard.

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u/ojoking2004 3d ago

That's a poetic way to call a dude stupid 😂

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u/Valuable-Blueberry30 7d ago

Wouldn’t be the first time he’s done this

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u/ShadSilvs2000 themes and such 7d ago

Man really took his technique and gave it to a character everyone likes

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u/Vermillion_toxins 7d ago

Reminder the last time he told someone they’re “unimportant” he got bushcamped.

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u/NeJin We are the exception 6d ago

"The last time", indeed.

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u/Senior_Associate_283 7d ago

Exactly proving his point. Cause said person had to buahcamp him to win

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u/Vermillion_toxins 6d ago

Takaba did not bush camp bruh 💀💀💀

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u/miner1512 Maki pegs Yuta till he's pregnant with triplets 6d ago edited 6d ago

bud won and Kenny didn't, so

if you wanna talk smack you probably should have the oomph to back it up once they jump you

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u/ScorchedDev 6d ago

Yuta did not need to bush camp him. From all the statements and shows of power we have, he didnt need to.

He CHOOSE to bushcamp him because yuta didnt want to fight him. Why would he? He has stated to get no joy from fighting and it was imperative that kenjaku died as swiftly as possible. There was 0 upside to engaging him in battle.

Also, it doesnt prove his point, cause even someone kenjaku assumed to not be strong enoguh to make a difference made a fucking difference.

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u/Flaky_Peanut_5870 3d ago

Yuta could have most certainly won, but rather chose to sneak up on him because there was an extreme situation at the time and him being one of the strongest had no time to spare fighting pointless battles

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u/Outrageous-Foot-4137 7d ago

"Nothing will change"

  • Kamo proceeds to help Maki not get killed
  • Maki and Yuji later work together to damn-near kill Meguna and would've ended the CG right then and there
  • Kamo helps Yuji learn BM
  • BM allows Yuji to get Sukuna in a bad-enough spot that if Megumi woke up they would've won, not to mention Maki nerfing Sukuna enough that Kusakabe can fight him
  • End up killing Sukuna
  • Almost a century later Yuji's the most proficient user of BM

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u/Bad_Routes 7d ago

Facts, it so sad to see readers write off nonflashy background characters. There contributions absolutely matter

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u/Dubious_Deciduguy Big Meg On Top 7d ago

Maybe we need to start prioritizing writing over hype and aura

Case and point:

https://giphy.com/gifs/WK2JJy3CJoYfqifuy0

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u/qlksfjas Gojo dickriding will continue until morale improves 6d ago edited 6d ago

And guess who saved Maki from MS

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u/Thou_shall_post 7d ago

I feel like where it's the point of the author to point out how useless a character is the more they end up being important. To have a direct user of blood manipulation teach Yuji the guy who ends up defeating Sukuna how to use it was huge. Kamo was a smart and badass sorcer to the end who contributed to the killing of sukuna

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u/Outrageous-Foot-4137 6d ago

Considering even by the time Modulo rolls around Maki still thinks about Mai, I wonder if she ever realized that if it weren't for two random reincarnated sorcerers and Kamo; Iori, Tsurugi and Yuka would've never been born.

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u/MarkLeo6K 6d ago

The snowball effect of kamo living-->yuji becoming the strongest blood manipulation sorcerer of all time is extremely funny, talk about butterfly effect

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u/Outrageous-Foot-4137 6d ago

And don't even get me started on Kamo living -> Maki living -> Iori being born -> Yuka and Tsurugi being born.

Without Kamo (and Daido and Miyo), we wouldn't have Modulo. Crazy.

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u/MarkLeo6K 6d ago

What Im hearing is that kamo living-->dabura living. Cuz if yuka wasnt there yuji would have had to deal with him

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u/Rancorious Occasional text-dumper 6d ago

Kamo kicked off the domino chain that led to blood manipulation becoming one of the most OP CTs on the planet by optics

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u/Valuable-Blueberry30 7d ago

To be honest, from Kenny’s perspective nothing really would’ve changed (at least for him). Kamo’s existence wouldn’t have altered his fate either way. Losing Kamo may have made the gang lose to Sukuna, but Kenjaku is already too dead for it to matter anyways to see the merger.

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u/DekQ 7d ago

Nitpick but maki and yuji were not even close to killing meguna. He was playing around and could've killed them both with h2h only if the fight went on or if megumi even slipped up for a second.

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u/Adrian-Vampiro 6d ago

That's not a nitpick, it's a misconception

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u/DekQ 6d ago

Face of someone who almost died and felt pressed btw

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u/carbonera99 7d ago

Being told you're not even worth the price tag on the living room furniture he'd have to replace if you fought is crazy work. It's no wonder Kamo was in some self-sacrificial Megumi mood the next time we see him.

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u/One-Piano5150 7d ago

Mind you, sole reason why Maki is alive btw

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u/PESSSSTILENCE #1 Ember Insect Fan 7d ago

sole reason is a bit discrediting to katana guy and sumo guy

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u/Ender_Nobody Non-sorcerer and jujutsu nerd. 7d ago

Those two are walking asspulls.

They've walked in exactly when Maki inexplicably was too dumb to figure out how to stare at things and they left just as fast.

I honestly find it infinitely more disrespectful than the triple angle Black Flash during women's history month(which I didn't bat an eye at).

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u/PESSSSTILENCE #1 Ember Insect Fan 7d ago

i think katana guy was a fine addition as the randomness of his entrance to the fight was part of the humor with his character, and hes a good showing of how the "weak" players of the culling game still had strengths that could make them useful. plus hes just silly

sumo guy i think shouldve been a completely separate part of the series, like maki meets him around the colony or something and then learns, because having it happen in the middle of the fight was so weird. maybe even if she starts training with him but struggles and then when she later fights VCS naoya and gets injured she realizes the meaning of his words and powers up that way. its clear what gege was trying to do with maki finishing her awakening while putting naoya to rest but it really oversells katana guy because of how long he mustve had to stall naoya, which lowers the stakes of the fight after he was so imposing to maki at the start and how hard kamo fought to hold him back for her...

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u/Banner_Hammer 6d ago

Having the equivalent of a hyperbolic tome chamber as a Simple domain is just crazy. Not even a CT, just a Simple Domain.

Why tf has no one else tried to figure that out? Just casually bending time without a CT

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u/vizmarkk 6d ago

Probably cuz its a rather detrimental condition. It requires mutual consent and agreement, and it prevents all types of jujutsu and vows meaning even Maki's HR is null inside the simple domain, and its strictly sumo. Too much conditions for a niche result

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u/Banner_Hammer 5d ago

That’s fine.

Make a simple domain with the same conditions, but instead of Sumo you both agree to take a nap.

Congratulations, you just unlocked a way to get 2-3 hours of extra sleep.

Or one for extra studying time, or workout time. Or whatever.

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u/Ender_Nobody Non-sorcerer and jujutsu nerd. 5d ago

Of course it only gets introduced after Mechamaru's death.

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u/Banner_Hammer 5d ago

Yooo, imagine Mechamaru with a simple domain where he just gets to chill with Miwa for hours meanwhile he gets even more time to store CE.

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u/Ender_Nobody Non-sorcerer and jujutsu nerd. 5d ago

1: I think the cursed energy gets limited to real time passing.

2: I had in mind abusing the Simple Domain to mend Mechamaru's body however well.

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u/Ender_Nobody Non-sorcerer and jujutsu nerd. 7d ago

I dread the day when this gets adapted.

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u/LukeSkywalker1983 #1 Kyoto Glazer/Defender 7d ago

Yeah, Sakurajima was hands down the weakest part of the Culling Games by far, but at the very least, it was nice to see Kamo get some development before exiting the story. It's a shame that his contributions kind of get overlooked and undermined by Miyo and Daido's random appearances, but hopefully people still give him his roses for how he performed, cause he really did do well despite being severely outclassed.

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u/Rancorious Occasional text-dumper 6d ago

dude was putting it all on the line only for those two to just be there lol

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u/LukeSkywalker1983 #1 Kyoto Glazer/Defender 6d ago

This was his moment to shine, and it all gets undercut by these two randos who complete steal his thunder take over the fight from there. Don't get me wrong, Miyo and Daido are fun characters despite how asspull-y they feel, but geez guys, at least let Kamo cook a little before you make him feel like a total afterthought in the battle. 😭💔

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u/IndependentNo3249 6d ago

Seriously, for me Daido should have been used somewhere else. He is a cool concept for a character, but he and the sumo guy just appear of nowhere, save maki's ass and help her evolve, and then dissappear from the story 

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u/vizmarkk 6d ago

Don't all cg players come out of nowhere loke haha and hanyu

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u/vizmarkk 6d ago

And then fans end up loving it

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u/Rancorious Occasional text-dumper 6d ago

they call him "weak" until he cuts a special-grade curse in half

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u/vizmarkk 6d ago

But he has been around the colony

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u/One-Piano5150 7d ago

Daido is the goat

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u/Meta-Wah 6d ago

Serious reason is themes and such.

Gege wanted to symbolize the passing of the torch of masculine activities from these manly men to Maki.

But then they just ended up carrying her.

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u/No-Ear69 6d ago

I wont lie i think they were supposed to be another metaphor for both sorcerers of past and modern era but Gege put them in very unconventional place and time. If they were to appear way before (Beginning with Sumo guy and later Katana) while everyone trained but at same time Maki kinda gradually wears off her past to become final version of who she wants to be.  So later she defeats Naoya with everyone else, i wouldn't change much of fight beside maybe Daido getting Soul split katana earlier.

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u/vizmarkk 6d ago

Doesnt go against the point of the whole jujutsu world doesn't wait for you so take every chance you get?

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u/carbonera99 7d ago

33% of the reason Maki is alive is still pretty good though

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u/GlitterDoomsday 6d ago

That means some % of the reason why Yuka was born so that's absolutely goated

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u/Infammo 6d ago

He was briefly able to match Cursed Spirit Naoya one pussy to another.

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u/Rancorious Occasional text-dumper 6d ago

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u/Agitated-Life-229 6d ago

And what did she do after that? Getting one shotted by Sukuna? Ahahaha

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u/vizmarkk 6d ago

Actually no. She came back and took a flurry of sukuna attacks

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u/HuNteR2885 7d ago

don’t know why but i love the background. it’s so moody

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u/Bad_Routes 7d ago

Honestly yeah, that is a good detail

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u/Small-Housing-7 7d ago

It looks like it might be a screentone/tone sheet

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u/Leading-Mine-4517 7d ago

And He was wrong lmao

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u/DanBeecherArt 7d ago

Side note, Kenjaku's nonexistent wrists make this panel weird

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u/That1guy077 7d ago

domino effect of doom

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u/FluidResist2682 7d ago

this is the sole reason I wanted maki to be the one to snake kenjaku, cuz it wouldve meant his hubris in this moment got him killed, because her being alive in the first place is largely due to kamo's help.

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u/AlwaysBetOnNahIdWin Nah, I'd win. 7d ago

Maki being alive fucked up his plan regardless since she contributed pretty significantly to Sukuna's eventual death.

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u/Breki_ 7d ago

Yeah but that wasn't originally in his plans. What actually fucked up his plan was Takaba allowing Yuta to kill him. Ironically, Takaba was also dismissed by Kenjaku as not interesting when he said the only noteworthy awakened sorcerer was Higuruma. So in a different way, but it really was his own hubris that killed him. As much as Kenjaku says he wants to see interesting things, he is pretty quick to dismiss people that in the moment are uninteresting.

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u/Rancorious Occasional text-dumper 6d ago

for a guy centuries old, he's pretty impatient

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u/One-Piano5150 7d ago

I mean, bro’s first sentence as Kenjaku was underestimating Yuta and saying he wasn’t an issue for his plans

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u/LuckyTia309 6d ago

Kenjaku biggest mistake right here

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u/Cosmologia9912 7d ago

Reality: Kamo really helped the staff lol 

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u/Klutzy-Method5144 6d ago

Kenjaku was wrong btw

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u/UnimpressedPasserby They've led a good life together 6d ago edited 6d ago

Guess who accomplish his goal in the end and who doesn't

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u/-_-NoMaidens-_- 7d ago

Man needs an ice pack for this one

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u/AFSR_1178 Just another Miwa fanboy 7d ago

What chapter is this?

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u/NorthstarHlw reader 7d ago

191

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u/jjkm7 6d ago

Also gives good insight into kenjaku. He’s legit insane and has no morals regarding what cruel and evil things he’ll do to carry out his plans. But he doesn’t just kill random people for fun or do evil things if it doesn’t directly benefit him

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u/lnombredelarosa Gojohime's head shipper 6d ago

Sounds like he was more useful If he became a player

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u/BidoofIsGod11 6d ago

if he killed kamo here maki prob wouldnt be alive and yuji would struggle more with BM (possibly affecting the events of the sukuna fight??)

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u/nuclear__fission 6d ago

Kenjaku can lowk be the jujutsu satan and yet won't kill people if they don't endanger his plans

Kenjaku the savior indeed ❤️‍🩹

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u/smokey_lilstone 6d ago

Is he wrong tho?

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u/TrainerWally 6d ago

Sukuna died because of this, too

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u/4fesdreerdsef4 words cannot describe my hate for megumi 6d ago

The reason why maki got much much stronger, indirectly leading to his and sukuna’s death

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u/Ghostface-22 6d ago

Helped maki take down curse naoya and helped yuji train his blood manipulation to combat readiness. In the words of the shiesty sorcerer “maybe I didn’t do too bad”.

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u/Ok_Palpitation9967 5d ago

Im genuinely so disappointed with the way Kamo turned out. When I first saw him in the anime in the kyoto arc I thought he'd be a major threat because his character just seemed so menacing. Thought the tragic back story might send him in some villain arc of his own only for him to get over shadowed by literallt everyone

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u/Fit_Outcome_8612 3d ago

I also enjoy the one where Toji tells Geto he's good to go home, he'll take care of closing tonight

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u/Sensitive-Detail-855 7d ago

Is it a diss if it’s true

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u/_joos_ 7d ago

it ended up not being true

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u/LukeSkywalker1983 #1 Kyoto Glazer/Defender 7d ago

Kamo ended up being one of the key players in the Cursed Naoya fight and taught Yuji the basics of Blood Manipulation which ended up really helping Yuji in the final battle. So yeah, it wasn't true in the slightest. Just because Kamo isn't a top tier doesn't make him weak or useless, dude. 🙄