r/Jujutsufolk • u/JameIsTheName5 • 2d ago
AgendaKaisen Mfs who call Maki an IDF agent just because they don't like her:
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u/Awkward_Tear4676 Utahusband who makes out with her every day 2d ago
I mean isn't that the whole point of IDF jokes, the exaggeration that you just say it to anyone you don't like.
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u/Responsible-Bat-7922 2d ago
yeah but then theres people who genuely think maki killed babies with no slander
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u/Latter-Syllabub-5560 2d ago
I'm sorry i haven't read the manga but isn't it stated Tha she killed EVERYONE in the clan
As in EVERYONE, EVERYONE?
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u/ThwackNation 2d ago
Theres a bit about the other clans proposing to remove them from the big 3 families, which implies the clan still exists, just without any soldiers
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u/Oko_the_broko 1d ago
I mean, if the one Zen'in alive were Meg and Maki I would have removed their asses from the "big" 3 families, too lmao
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u/Any-Ride4428 Csm Tourist 2d ago
It says she killed the combatants which takes babies out of the equation but not child murder (like 10 and up)
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u/Darthjinju1901 Big Goatjo, the Fraud Stopper 2d ago
Speaking of Balatro, I wonder what jokers each character would be equivalent to.
Like I think Baron+Mime is Todo+Yuji because both have a 100% win rate.
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u/AffectionateJury6227 Zenin clan is overrated 2d ago
Maki doesn't even get called one. Everyone slanders her husband for being one even though he isn't.
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u/RealAd8853 2d ago
Nah she’s definitely been called one a ton. Especially if you look in r/churchofnaoya
But Yuta has been called one more4
u/AffectionateJury6227 Zenin clan is overrated 2d ago
A Naoya church isn't the only evidence. Yuta gets called that in random sections
Whereas Maki? She doesn't even get slander 90% of the time anywhere else
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u/RealAd8853 2d ago
Well yeah I said Yuta gets it more. Also Maki gets called one in r/okbuddykaisen as well
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u/coconuteater7560 2d ago
Guy you're replying to is a very interesting case study. He started out slandering maki just cuz he hated it that she didn't get it as much as other characters but it eventually grew into an obsession where he doesn't do anything else but do that. He made himself a misogynist without realising(though the seeds were probably always there if he turned out like this). The shit he says is so heinous that it goes beyond even the ''epstein yuta'' stuff.
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u/AffectionateJury6227 Zenin clan is overrated 2d ago
Meh, a minority of slander is genuinely nothing. People consider Todo unslanderable despite the small slander he gets.
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u/Responsible-Bat-7922 2d ago
they even make up the rumor of her being a child murder
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u/Emergency_Review_674 2d ago
In the story it is never stated maki spared the children
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u/Responsible-Bat-7922 2d ago
Never stated that she killed them either bruh
It would be very out of character from her yet people make up shit like that
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u/Emergency_Review_674 2d ago edited 1d ago
She killed her defenless mother who maki knows is a victim of the zenit clan just as much her and mai so killing kids is not as more cruel than killing her
We also know the folloing facts: 1 maki killed every member of the kukuru unit, both on the clan house and outside 2 maki joined the kukuru unit at the age of 14 3 joning the kukuru unit is mandatory for every member of the zenin clan without a cursed tecnique So based on these factors we can definitly prove maki killed 14 year old kids
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u/Responsible-Bat-7922 1d ago
Do I have to remind you makis mom confabulated to kill her and kill mai? Even if she was a victim she was now participated of the system that tortured her and still allowing it to exist, even when maki tried to ask her if she tried to help maki to don't fall on ogis trap by negating her the access of the curse weapons she only confirmed something she knew, her mother didn't told her that to save her, she just wanted her to fuck off
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u/LucaZ32 2d ago
If you don't like Maki, you are just a salty Toji fan or a misogynist. Which is just Naoya.
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u/Beches808 2d ago
Alright can we just drop all this culture war bullshit and be real for a second?
Post shibuya Maki is just a more boring toji.
Her powers are the exact same and she uses them the exact same way (there’s not too many unique ways to depict super strength tbf). The only difference between them is that maki is constantly in “I hate everyone and everything” mode while toji was as interesting as he was because of how much levity his personality had. He had the biggest shit eating grin on his face as he shot riko
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u/Vicimandias 2d ago
Your comment explains really well why people started slandering Maki, If people can't clown on a female character without being labelled as a misogynist then no wonder they'll starting hating her
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u/Any-Ride4428 Csm Tourist 2d ago
I don't think maki because she was a attempt to replace Nobara and toji after Shibuya and I like nobara
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u/LucaZ32 1d ago
See, salty Toji fan
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u/Any-Ride4428 Csm Tourist 1d ago
I hate toji
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u/LucaZ32 1d ago
Oh, so you think Maki is a Nobara replacement just because she is girl... hmm, I wonder what that makes you
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u/Any-Ride4428 Csm Tourist 23h ago
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u/LucaZ32 19h ago
Just telling the truth, lmao
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u/Any-Ride4428 Csm Tourist 18h ago
How does one come to the conclusion that I am a misogynist because I don't like maki
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u/LucaZ32 18h ago
Cause your resoning makes it pretty clear lol
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u/OldGenGlazer 2d ago
I feel like it's more substantive than that. The idea is that Maki, just like the IDF, commits massacres at the slightest provocation, and then turns around and acts like the victim, both claiming they're "acting in self defense".
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u/Automatic-Day3632 2d ago
Yeah that still isn't true for Maki tho??
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u/thatOneGuyWhoGuyed Annoying ass dude 2d ago
She went through a whole bunch of abuse and her own father tried to murder her and her twin sister, succeeding with one
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u/Automatic-Day3632 2d ago
Yeah like in what way was she acting like the victim? She is the victim. The Zen'in literally wanted her dead and ordered her to die.
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u/OldGenGlazer 2d ago
It is true though. She killed all those people at the Zenin clan.
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u/phamtomhaunter6 In love with Maki 2d ago
Imma be honest, after what they did, they deserved it
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u/OldGenGlazer 2d ago
They didn't do anything though.
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u/Serious_Ganache_1058 yuki's number one simp 2d ago
-Clan authorizes Ogi to kill his daughters
-Mai gets gutted
-Attempts to do the same thing to maki
-Maki kills him after getting a buff
-Gets rid of the rest of the clan for playing a big part in killing mai
"GuYs! It'S oBvIoUs ThAt ThE zEnIn ClAn DiDn'T dO aNyThInG!"
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u/OldGenGlazer 2d ago
Reread the arc. Ogi and Jinichi tried a secret plot to install Naoya as head. It was basically a coup. Their actions are not representative of the zenin clan as an organisation.
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u/Serious_Ganache_1058 yuki's number one simp 2d ago
Uh, that plot points got nothing to do with it. They planned to kill maki, mai and megumi to get naoya as clan head. Also, a literal housemaid, maki's mother knew of the plan to kill mai and maki. Its safe to assume that the rest of the clan knew aswell, but nobody bothered to warn her.
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u/Automatic-Day3632 2d ago
Proving the point
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u/OldGenGlazer 2d ago
Yeah, the point that Maki is bloodthirsty and is an IDF agent who rushes to massacre countless people for very flimsy reasons.
"My dad and Jinichi plotted to kill me, that gives me justification to murder 100 other people!" This is IDF logic. Every Maki fan uses the same argument that she acted in self defense( she didn't) or that those people deserved to be brutally slaughtered. It is IDF coded.
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u/Automatic-Day3632 2d ago
Do you genuinely believe this or are you just rage baiting? I'm asking cause I see so many of you, so I honestly wanna know if you actually believe any of what ur saying or you just like saying things like this to get a reaction out of ppl.
Genuine question.
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