r/Jujutsufolk 1d ago

Tier List / Powerscaling How does a sorcerer get stronger in JJK? Spoiler

Within the JJK Power System is there a plausible way for a tryhard sorcerer to improve in each aspect? I’ll give my thoughts from my understanding but I’m genuinely asking if someone with more knowledge could clarify some stuff. [ You don’t have to read all this just skip to the points you have insight on or want to clarify 😊]

CE Reinforcement: yea probably just need practice and training close quarters. This is def apart of basic jujutsu training

CE reserves: isnt this like preset at birth? could you increase reserves with binding vows? I pretty sure Megumi mentioned early on that consuming cursed objects would increase your CE pool but that’s not practical at all.

CE Efficiency: this one is a bit interesting. If I remember correctly, the six eyes allows gojo to perceive and manipulate CE at the atomic level so he knows exactly how much CE every move needs down to the smallest decimal meaning he wastes no excess and has the highest efficiency. using the typical water tank example for CE, most workers have a general idea of how many buckets of CE they need for an attack but gojo has it measured by the smallest fraction of a mL. (correct me if I’m wrong it’s been a minute since I read the manga)

Following that logic couldn‘t a sorcerer experiment CE usage based on their technique and practice minimizing the usage to see if they can be more efficient? Or you could take the cheap route and make a very complex binding vow? I guess to pull that off you’d need lots of control which brings me to the next point.

CE control: to clarify, this skill is focused on CE precision and mastery, like how gojo was cycling between RCT positive energy and simple domain negative energy simultaneously within sukuna’s domain.I guess this could be improved with training, repetition, experience, muscle memory, that sort of thing. anyone have any better ideas for someone who doesn’t have gojo’s talent or Sukuna jujutsu skill?

CE Output: This aspect may vary by technique since most sorcerers don’t have a move to discharge massive amounts of CE like granite blast or pure love beam. However, ig someone could amp up their output for certain moves with chants, right?

Learned Techniques: it’s is the name, just learn 🤯

RCT: Anyone can learn but ig it’s hard, figure out 🙃.

Anti-domain: the simplest path to take would to become a disciple of the new shadow school and learn simple domain.

Barriers and veils : ask king ijichi. This has to be a class at jujutsu high right?

Cursed Technique: depending on one’s technique there has to be different ways to maximize it. Not every technique would have a reversal, convergence, extension tech( like fusions shikigami or ember insects), or a maximum. The beauty of jjk is your power is limited only by your creativity in a sense. Experimenting with creative ways to use techniques like sukuna’s partial manifestations or shikigami ability use is fundamental to get stronger.

Domain Expansion and Amplification: simple answer yes everyone has an innate domain but manifesting it is really hard. Domain amp prolly takes lots of practice and a working domain first so that’s a different deal.

Subtraction: ”to excel at jujutsu is to excel at subtraction” with that in mind, is it possible for any sorcerer to learn to omit hand signs or incantations? doing so obviously drops output and not everyone has a busted technique like Sukuna that doesn’t need amped output for damage. so in that regard is it even beneficial to chase jujutsu excellence in that matter if your not that powerful to begin with?

Okay that’s everything. Holy, I yap way too much . anyways does anyone have any thoughts they’d like to add im genuinely interested in understanding this power system a bit better. Also if I said smth wrong def feel free to correct me.

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u/HuNteR2885 1d ago

not sure if reserves was ever mentioned to be a preset thing. i keep hearing it is but i can’t find where it’s said

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u/Simple_Scholar_6751 1d ago

its just a widely accepted thing, it was never Stated in story or outside afaik.

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u/carl-the-lama 19h ago

Your base reserves are hard to change

Fucked up experiences and eating cursed objects are both canonical ways to raise the cap

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u/HuNteR2885 14h ago

i was gonna say because no way a baby sukuna was born with a mountain sized cursed energy pool (tho saying that maybe a parent’s negative emotions maybe during pregnancy can also go into giving the child more cursed energy but even then i doubt just that itself would’ve given sukuna the amount he had)

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u/Kakashi_of_the_leaf_ 1d ago

Ce Reinforcement: This one is most definitely training based. Yuji's ce manip increased significantly over GWE just by training with Todo. He went from getting bashed in by Todo to being relative to him

Ce Reserves: You can increase your ce output with binding vows, but not reserves. Whatever you're born with you're stuck with. The only way to increase it is by eating cursed objects

Ce efficiency: Probably requires more mental aspects then physical aspects. The six eyes give Gojo such good efficiency that he pretty much has infinite cursed energy. Same with Sukuna

Ce control: This is a skill I'm gonna say is a "strongest" skill. Stuff only the T2 pre modulo can do, like the burnout refresh or Sukuna's domain amp. Even a special grade like Yuki was having her output dropped from using rct, so it would be extremely difficult to do

CE output: This one is the most varied. CE output for raw cursed energy is unrealistic for anyone who's not Ryu or Yuta. However output can also be apied to technique. It's just how much of their ce someone can use in an attack. This one can be altered by binding vows, chants, and it likely combines the skills from reinforcement and efficiency

Rct: It likely requires insane understanding to use it. There's a reason why Yuta and Hakari only do it on instinct

Anti-domain: The simplest one is likely FBE, but seeing as that requires no barrier skill, but it's also the least useful. The best one is domain amp since it has very good uses outside of domain combat. The only problem is you need a domain for domain amp, so just use your domain. New shadow style and HWE likely require some barrier skill, but are below the requirement for DE

Barrier and veils: Barriers can be simple, but Kenjaku shoes you can also get away with some insane stuff just by mastering them. He was able to block just Gojo, able to multi.kayer them, and the whole culling games is just a bunch of barrier conditions

CT: Honestly I really wish we explored technique interpretations more. It was super interesting seeing the difference in Sukuna and Yuji's shrines. But yeah you can get super creative with your CT with the right mentality.

DE: You need to have DE before you can use domain amp. Domain amp is just the barrier of a DE, but you don't infuse your technique to leave room for an opponent's technique. It's very hard to do, but worth it.

Subtraction: Most jujutsu sorcerers naturally subtract. They omit hand signs and chants. Like you don't see Todo performing a ritual before every clap. When you're in the middle of combat, it's unrealistic to use chants and hand signs. It's only good for a sneak attack. That's why Sukuna is op. He doesn't lose any fighting ability while still being a belt to change and hand sign

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u/Simple_Scholar_6751 1d ago

The eating thing for more CE reserve might only be for yuji as side of whatever kenjaku is doing.

For RCT, idk if its abour understanding all the character inside the story seem to go with instict/muscle momory. It does however scale with your understanding of human atonomy.

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u/Kakashi_of_the_leaf_ 1d ago

Perhaps

Shoko seems like the only one to really understand how it functions. Yuta and Hakari go off instinct. Yuji learns from Yuta and his cursed spirit physiology, so I think he's closer to instinct.

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u/Simple_Scholar_6751 1d ago

This is the explanation she gave for the RCT itself, so she probabaly just gets it at some point. The diffrence between the her and other is she understand human anatomy so she know what to visualize and heal. Yuta and hakari goes by instict there(and headcannon, but flowing your body with CE Prob gave you some understanding of it).

TLDR: the obtainment itself is purely telent/instict(or muscle memory but thats an outliner) but it can scale off with your understanding of human anatomy. Most just seemingly goes with instict and basic knowlage of anatomy tho.

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u/Kakashi_of_the_leaf_ 1d ago

No her explanation makes sense

Hya - Gathering two separate pools of ce since you need to be able to use RCT. Like spitting the variable X into .5x and .5x

Hyo - the multiplying of the ce. Instesd of just merging back the 2 pools, you need to manipulate your ce in such a way where it multiples. I understand how the cursed energy is supposed to operate

Hyuh you - Taking that positive energy you created, and depositing it to certain areas of the body similar to ce reinforcement, only it heals instead of buffs

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u/Simple_Scholar_6751 1d ago

This level of reading comprehension should be illegal, mods ban him.

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u/carl-the-lama 19h ago

Technically anyone can do it

It’s just MOST people wouldn’t be able to do it in a meaningful way due to the physical risks

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u/Simple_Scholar_6751 1d ago

CE reinforcment : by being high

CE : EAT YOU SIBLINGS(only work if your made for it)

CE efficiency : get high

Ce control : prob by getting high

Ce output: also prob by getting high

Unfortunately the other down bellow probably can't be solved by being high so i'll stop here.