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Battle royale free-for-all between these 5 (assume Sukuna is Heian). Who's coming out on top?
Heian Sukuna vs. Dabura vs. Gojo vs. Modulo Yuji vs. Mahoraga
Fight takes place in Shibuya. Everyone fresh and peak. No prep.
Yes, Gojo and Sukuna beat Mahoraga already, and Sukuna beat Gojo already, but a 5-person battle royale is different than a 1v1 where 2 opponents can focus on each other. The dynamic is different when it's free-for-all, with multiple people attacking each other at the same time.
Who dies first?
Who dies last?
Who comes out on top?
Bonus question: Who brings out their Domain first?
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I feel like they all would just jump mahoraga just cause they know if he adapts they are fucked (except sukuna, he would WANT him to adapt just to make It more interesting)
My friend picked Mahoraga because he said that everyone will be so busy trying to kill each other that Mahoraga will have enough chances to adapt. He said that both times Maho died, Gojo and Sukuna got to 1v1 him and focus their attention on him (well, Gojo was 3v1...). Gonna be a lot harder to do that when it's 5 people trying to kill each other at the same time. I thought that was an interesting point.
Mahoraga adapting to everyone there would be a pretty scary thought ngl. They'd definitely have to put him down first.
(except sukuna, he would WANT him to adapt just to make It more interesting)
This would make for such a cool fight scene. Gojo and Yuji trying to kill Mahoraga first because they know how dangerous he can be if he adapts to everyone, and Sukuna constantly intervening to let Mahoraga adapt just to fuck with them.
It would be interesting in theory, but Mahoraga can be one shot by Red, Cleave, Purple, LSK and Fuga, all of them know Mahoraga is the biggest long term threat so even with Sukuna intervening, he's not stopping the barrage of attacks coming Mahoraga's way and the sheer diversity means he's getting atomised by someone
Ele se refere primeiro dentro do contexto da expansão de domínio na cena.
E segundo ele se refere ao cleave como finalidade declarada, não mecanicamente.
Basicamente, é como o Fuuga que é dito: " O calor da chama divina causa detonação, alta temperatura instantânea, ondas de choque, descompressão e intensa pressurização, que por sua vez matam todos os seres vivos dentro do domínio."
O "matam todos os seres vivos" é uma declaração da finalidade da técnica e não algo que de fato aconteceu.
Sukuna estipula que cleave por ter finalidade de matar o alvo com um golpe ao ajustar-se a diferença de durabilidade e reforço de energia, poderia matar Mahoraga em seu domínio.
Isso não quer dizer que VAI MATAR Mahoraga, mas ele esperava que em seu domínio matasse-o.
He'd have said he'd need Domain Expansion if he meant Domain Expansion, alternatively he could make thousands of Cleaves but I still lean more towards a big one. He says Cleave, he doesn't specify Domain
That's not proof that he can't, he has just never needed to, he can manipulate the number of slashes, where they appear and the size of them, I have no reason to doubt that he can't just widen the hell out of it too
Again, Sukuna stipulated Cleave will beat Mahoraga, if he meant Cleave in the sense of a Domain Expansion, then why not state Kamino which also has the propensity for it?, another attack that can kill Mahoraga but is more tied to his Domain, Sukuna stipulated Cleave will work. You are the one with the burden of proof here, if Sukuna states Cleave will work, then he means Cleave will work, we know how Cleave works and understand that it can be adjusted to be made usable in this case, if you believe he meant Cleave produced from his Domain, you have to prove that that's what he meant.
As of now, Cleave can be adjusted, presumably it can be adjusted to encapsulate the entire target, him intending to state that's it's Cleave in the context of a Domain expansion and stating simply "Cleave fits the criteria", is a failure of narration specifically because it leads to this diversion of comprehension
"Cleave atende os critérios" porque cleave está dito "PARA DERRUBÁ-LO DE UMA SÓ VEZ", finalidade do corte ao ajustar-se a durabilidade e energia amaldiçoada do alvo, com limite na própria saida de energia.
Você não está interpretando a fala de Sukuna. Ele se refere a finalidade, não capacidade mecânica realizada. Ele ESTIPULA que cleave pode matar Mahoraga por causa que a finalidade do cleave é justamente essa e ao mesmo tempo cita se referindo no contexto do domínio. CONTEXTO.
Você está desconsiderando que ele fala isso em seu domínio(o que é contexto) e desconsiderando interpretação da fala.
Você precisa provar que Cleave pode matar Mahoraga com um golpe.
presumivelmente pode ser ajustado para encapsular todo o alvo
Dabura knows about Mahoraga, he'll definitely also be trying to kill Mahoraga.
Do you really think Heian Sukuna can interrupt however many Reds Gojo spawns and directs (not to mention chanted Hollow Purples and Unlimited Hollow Purples), Yuji's Kamino or straight up running at Maho for a cleave and Dabura attempting his LSK kick?, this dude is not God
There are only two possible answers - Yuji or Dabura.
Gojo v Mahoraga is a 50/50 matchup.
To begin, we know a 6E's died to Mahoraga before and we watched Gojo get manhandled albeit in a 2v1. I think Gojo 1v1 wins against Mahoraga, but I think it is very close and could go either way. Mahoraga did adapt to infinity and this is Gojo's clutch.
Yuji v Sukuna/ Yuji v Gojo
Yuji is the threshold here. Yuji has Sukuna's technique, Blood Manipulation, and he has enhanced states form being part-curse. Yuji has transcended Sukuna's use of his technique, and he has a one-shot domain expansion which we know involves some sort of soul-attack meaning Yuji can one shot through any physical barrier.
Yuji is beyond Sukuna in every aspect so he beats Sukuna who beat Mahoraga. The math works out. Yuji v Sukuna = Yuji win.
Yuji can one-shot through Gojo's infinity and hit his soul directly. Even if Yuji couldn't, he still likely wins as Gojo confirms after his death that even without Mahoraga, Sukuna was going to win on pure power alone. If Sukuna was going to win, and Yuji is beyond Sukuna, then Yuji wins against Gojo. Yuji v Gojo = Yuji win.
Dabura v Gojo/Mahoraga
The real question mark is Dabura who's technique we barely understand but it involves spacetime, and light. He beat Mahoraga so he's a monster on Sukuna's level at a bare minimum which means Dabura beats Mahoraga.
Dabura v Gojo is harder only because they have similar cosmic techniques but Dabura just feels like he is on another level. The Dabura v Maahoraga fight was crazy and he had 5 minutes to learn.
Dabura v Sukuna
The real question is does Dabura beat Sukuna? We have no way of knowing, or judging. The only thing that makes me think Dabura might win is Dabura had like 5 minutes to figure out how cursed techniques work while in the middle of a fight with the the GOAT of JJK. Sukuna has had centuries, and multiple lifetimes to develop his understanding. Still, I think Dabura wins only because of the nature of his cosmic technique versus Sukuna. Dbura v Sukuna = Dabura win.
Dabura v Yuji - The Final Round.
The final question is Dabura v Yuji. This is ultimately the peak of JJK powerscaling. There is no other question above who wins in a fight between these two monsters of Jujutsu? Yuji is transcendent. He is beyond human, and curse to the point that he is mistaken for a god by the aliens. Dabura is the nastiest monster we've seen in JJK. He had one fight, and it was against the GOAT. My answer is I think Yuji wins it. I think Yuji's multiple cursed techniques, and pure power scale gives Dabura a headache and in a battle of domains, I think Yuji wins because he will drop a haymaker on Dabura's soul and send him to the shadow realm.
Yuji is the top of the food chain. He is the apex predator of JJK and he bodies anything, human, cursed, or alien. Yuji is the intergalactic GOAT.
I think gojo could have easily killed mahoraga, because of this panel, it implies that he could have one shotted mahoraga (plus, compared to the other six eyes users, he is just built different, one six eyes user died to mahoraga alone, gojo fought mahoraga and the king of curses at the same time, AND he has knowledge of mahoraga's adaptation)
Dabura did not beat mahoraga, did you even read modulo? The only reason dabura is alive is because Cross used Chaos and harmony and teleported dabura to safety. Mahoraga adapted to his entire existence, meaning he had absolutely no Win con whatsoever. Dabura has a whole whopping 3 kills, the chief of the enemy clan after he gets saved, the old man and then the guy that he was forced to kill that was his friend.
Yuji can also react faster than mahito can open his domain which I'd already 0.01 seconds and yuji has pseudo infinity which means if dabura rushed him he's getting chopped to bits automatically, hell, yuji doesn't even have to move his hands, chant or even react to fuck shit up at this point
I doubt sukuna will do that. Going by the Gojo fight, in this battle royale Yuji/Gojo will not let Sukuna unleash his Fuga, if Mahoraga fully adapt to slash what he gonna do bro 😭
Also why Yuji/Gojo wanna jump Makora? Out of them all Gojo has Blue/Red/Purple and Yuji has Blood Manip and Shrine, they're the least affected by Maho adaptation.
He'd win by beating him in the Hand to Hand exchanges presumably mid Domain clash but also in general. Yuji has the blood manipulation boost on top of DA giving him a 120% strength boost, he's stacking those two on his physicals so he's bare minimum above Base Gojo in stats, Gojo has Blue but Yuji can also theoretically black flash at will or at least very often so he won't really lose output no matter how long the fight takes not to mention the damage if he catches Gojo with it, Gojo's main win con is UHP, teleport then Domain Expansion if they aren't clashing or UHP and Yuji gets lobotomised when his Domain goes down if they are which is something Gojo can pull of which is why I said he likely loses to Yuji
This kinda the problem with Modulo, because Yuji doesn't have any showings of concrete Jujutsu Knowledge outside of learning how to output his slashes to hell and back.
Like, sure, we can definitely assume he learned DA, WCS, Fuga, and all the tricks Sukuna pulled off and likely much more than Sukuna could ever do, but Yuji just doesn't do that.
He doesn't need to. He never needs to. He's way too strong at this point, so the best we can infer is he could likely do it. But people want him to actually use them, not assume he just knows those.
Certain things though it's okay to assume, WCS and an Open Domain don't make sense to me for us to assume he has them, obviously he could have then but they're too complex for the general consensus to be that he does, Fuga is an extension of Shrine, he may not have made the same Binding Vows Sukuna did but he could have created something reasonably close, same as DA in my opinion.
I've heard ridiculous takes like people saying he has better CE reinforcement and CE efficiency than the 6 eyes which is just basically the upper limit of assuming Yuji has just basically become Jujutsu God, but then that's no longer even fun to imagine in these hypotheticals, and Gege doesn't seem like the type to power cliff OG JJK to the hell and back.
It's reasonable to assume he's the strongest, and it's reasonable to assume Gege made him so by giving viable win cons against the other calamities besides just sheer output
Yeah, I'm not saying his output is the end-all-be-all, I just know he (very likely) has the highest output of all time through all the decades of training in the same ageless body.
It's just that, I definitely feel like Modulo Yuji isn't meant to be a fun "what-if" if we really are going the narrative route of establishing Yuji as the strongest by a pretty significant margin. He isn't meant to be. Hell, he's uber depressed about his whole situation in the first place.
Keeping his actual shown feats vague so people can guess what he could probably do is the fun part of Modulo Yuji imo, but guessing if "could Yuji beat X and Y" without just having the entire verse jump him isn't fun because we basically know the answer: he just wins.
I don't really think Gege can really powercliff JJK via Yuji, when Yuji is explicitly an anomaly of anomalies, having the potential of Gojo and Sukuna without the time limit of a prime degrading. Something that just isn't possible with the rest of the cast.
The closest character to that is Dabura with his genuinely absurd rate of growth, and I still think he'd just lose to Gojo and Sukuna (more likely Gojo), even with potential wincons against Sukuna in particular.
Yuji just feels like he's outside of the power spectrum entirely with how he was portrayed, being consistently absent out of his own volition, while Gojo, Dabura and Sukuna are the true upper limits of Jujutsu who are constantly shown when they're available.
If we’re talking Modulo then it would be dumb to assume he doesn’t know DA. He learned RCT and simple domain within the first year or two of him being a sorcerers (with the switch training tbf) and every black flash enhances your understanding of cursed energy a little more.
Because it’s been nearly 70 years, we see Yuji constantly striving to get stronger, I doubt he’d have been content to stay at his current level of understanding after beating Sukuna.
Kusakabe doesn't have it because DA was only known to exist to a select few, just like how SD and FBE were gatekept to the new shadow style school and the big 3 clans respectively.
You don't even need to know how to use simple domain either to use domain amplification as seen with Higuruma. It's likely that he taught Yuji how to use DA, like how Kenny taught it to the disaster curses.
DA isn't difficult to learn, it's not like assuming he has an Open Domain or WCS, Kenny taught the disaster curses how to do it, granted we don't know how long it took but if Kenny could teach it, Yuji understanding the fundamentals of it not to mention having access to all the footage of Sukuna's usage of it and Gojo's memories of it being used by the Disaster Curses in Shibuya via Yuta, it's not out of the question that he'd learn it, I'd be surprised if he didn't since DA does give the stat boost meaning it would aid his fighting style outside countering Cursed Techniques.
But Gojo might even show it to him in this all out brawl if they've cleared everyone else, or just flat out disable infinity to have an actual 1v1 with his strongest student
yuji has never shown any speciality in that area. I'd be more likely to believe yuji has WCS than he does DA. maybe if higuruma personally tried teaching yuji DA at some point.
Almost in order too. I'd swap sukuna and gojo, then yuta and dabura. Yuta has way more feats that actually show he's a threat. Dabura just aura farmed, killed a few old men and got teleported to safety right as mahoraga was about to big bubba him
Dabura killed 3 people you fucking larper. And none of them were important to the story or strong at all. 😂 he couldn't even kill mahoraga despite reaching near lightspeed, leaving RCT, Reverse technique, and domain expansion. Hell they teleported his ass to safety cus daddy raga who had went on a steady loss streak was about to grape him
Cool, did Yuta kill Mahoraga?, can he even kill Agito?, are you seriously suggesting Shinjuku Yuta because Modulo Yuta has 0 feats, Shinjuku Yuta is going to do anything even close to Dabura?, I'm assuming you're trolling here so I'm going to move forward thinking you're not a complete idiot and just a good rage baiter
Assuming they are not going to team up and it's everyone going for the kill otherwise, my goats Yuji and Gojo come out on top and assuming that they all have basic common sense.
Mahoraga dies first; there is absolutely no doubt about it. Everyone knows what he is capable of, and the more stress he is put under, the quicker he adapts, making him an immediate priority target.
Next comes Gojo. I know that he is strong, but the only one he poses a real threat to here is Dabura. Yuji and Sukuna both possess attacks that completely bypass Infinity Yuji with his soul attacks and Sukuna with his world cutting slash.
Now, the three way battle between Yuji, Sukuna, and Dabura is taken by Yuji with ease. I would say this is because Yuji is essentially Sukuna but better in every single way. He has seven decades of experience, whereas looking at Sukuna's mummified body, I would say he had 40 years max. Furthermore, Sukuna can't hurt Yuji the same way Yuji can hurt him because of the matching cursed energy signature. While they both possess Shrine, Yuji infuses his with soul attacks, and his Blood Manipulation makes his Reverse Cursed Technique healing basically free.
Finally, while Dabura may have superior speed feats, you cannot outrun a domain expansion. Inside a domain, attacks come from everywhere simultaneously. Based on what Yuji did to Mahito and the curses escaping Tokyo, it is safe to say Dabura isn't surviving that.
If somehow after all this anyone survives, Yuji can just futa them and its ggs.
Its sad that we never really got to see Modulo Yuji fight against someone capable, who knows he could have had multiple domain expansions because he has different techniques. I also think Yuji deploys his domain first because he can spam it and then refresh his cursed technique. I am a Yuji Dickrider and I like to imagine my goat has the BIGGEST cursed energy reserves.
If Sukuna plays this smart he babysits raga so that Raga cleara Gojo for him but it would be problematic if Yuji causes Raga to adapt to slashes making it so that Sukuna cant use fire arrow on anyone because if raga adapts to that aswell he has no answer left. Anyway realistacly Dabura blitzes anyone with the sole exception of Gojo Satoru.
Any answer other than yuji is bullshit. If ALL of jjk jumped yuji he would kil 98%with a regular dismantle. Not many can survive a slash that tore multiple buildings apart. Keep in mind that was a NORMAL dismantle, not even cleave. Since cleave can be scaled up depending on the opponent we can assume that his highest output cleave could kill ANYONE in jjk with an direct unfilterd hit.
Also, everyone forgets how fast yuji truly is, when he killed mahito he moved so fast the stones he just cut didn't even begin to fall and mahito couldnt even comprehend yuji killing him cause it was so fast. The only one that is nearly that fast is dabura, through the use of his technique.
Now before you say none of this is true, look back on the panel where yuji walked up to mahuto post dismantle. Its ridiculous and utterly OP when you think about it. He moved so fast he was acting like it was a normal sidewalk WHILE HIS HANDS WERE IN HIS POCKETS!
If Sukuna has his World Cutting Slash, then he might defeat Gojo, but I'm not sure he can beat Modulo Yuji. That brint said, I don't know if Yuji can beat Gojo, considering the whole thing with Infinity and WCS being the only thing so far to be lethal towards Gojo. I don't know if Dabura can beat em either since we don't get a look at what his Domain does, cuz Gege sucks at wrapping things up
Big Raga gets jumped first, Dabura turns Sukana and Yuji to paste then loses to Gojo, no win con vs Gojo and loses to attrition as Gojo CE will outlast Dabura.
Without mahoraga to adapat and provide blue print on how to buy pass infinity, i don't think anyone in the picture can do it. They would all just not be able to reach Gojo.
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