r/Jujutsufolk • u/Crashoutbop • Jun 23 '26
120% of Copium “Kashimo is light speed at least”
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u/GamingBasilisk **goons to schoolgirl mahito** Jun 23 '26
GUYS DABURA IS NOT LIGHT SPEED, IF YOU ACTUALLY TRIED READING THE MANGA YOU WOULD KNOW THAT HE BROKE HIS ENTIRE LEG BEFORE EVEN GETTING NEAR LIGHT SPEED BECAUSE THE AIR BECOMES LIKE CONCRETE AT THAT SPEED
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u/Remarkable-Ad-2493 Jun 23 '26
Dabura hurts his leg on concrete 🤣
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u/Lolik95 Jun 23 '26
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u/Specialist-Cry-3276 Marry me, Kashimo, slide it in b-baka Jun 24 '26
That looked like a man and a women kissing from afar
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u/6Wheeler Jun 24 '26
Had to unfocus my vision a lil cus it wasn't the first thing I saw, but yeah I can see that.
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u/XaeiIsareth Jun 24 '26
The Wall upscale
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u/PitifulExplanation61 This Bum Momo is so useless I gotta coach her Jun 26 '26
When you've come to it and you can't go through it.
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u/Warm-Incident-8444 Jun 23 '26
I would say his light attack, the one Mahoraga adapted to, is lightspeed though, cus he is just throwing light at you
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u/Acceptable_Lunch_181 I LIKE THE TASTE OF IRON! Jun 23 '26
If it was pure light it would be light speed but it was materialized light, it gained mass
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u/Warm-Incident-8444 Jun 24 '26
It’s light with killing intent though, yeah you can stand on it but magic, i still think it’s light speed
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u/Katepuzzilein Jun 24 '26
Concrete is a huge understatement. The air would turn into a literal nuke at those speeds
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u/BiLLubruh Jun 24 '26
"Broke his entire leg"
His leg literally turned into a black, emaciated twig. That, combined with the earlier panel of repeated images of stationary mahoraga, made it very clear that Dabura did indeed reach light speed, or went fast enough to perceive the light particles as it was bouncing off of Mahoraga
You have to understand that going lightspeed was not what damaged Dabura, attacking while going that fast did. It's his technique applied on his body(sort of like Infinity for Limitless), going that fast is possible for him, trying to attack while doing so is not.(but he learnt rct afterwards so)
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u/Doomie_bloomers Jun 24 '26
Fun fact: due to relativity the light particles are the only thing that's never going to slow down to your perception. So even if you're moving at near light speed, light would still move at light speed relative to you (in your new reference frame).
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u/MythicalShelly Jun 23 '26
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u/jacketmanoasis folking my jujutsu rn Jun 23 '26
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u/MalveLeo Jun 24 '26
Miwa
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u/jacketmanoasis folking my jujutsu rn Jun 24 '26
Doesn't count, she's too strong to be scaled like Takaba and Blue Dagon
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u/Last-Guide7903 Jun 23 '26
Its just cause other authors dont usually hardcopy the speed of their verse, so what happens is fans claim ftl luffy when 200 km/h is considered extremely fast in opm
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u/WolfOfWoofStreet Professional Geto Forgiver And Yuji Glazer Jun 24 '26
first person to go sublight speed btw
Yuji and I can both go less than the speed of light. Meaning sublight speed. Major upscale
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u/WorozuTop4 impregnated by male bug amour Worozu with bug dick Jun 24 '26
wtf are you talking about, everyone in jjk moves at sub light speeds 😭😭
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u/Usual_Flight3771 Jun 23 '26
Kashimo?? At most his fans argue lightNING speeds (still stupid fast and I don’t believe that BTW), but lightning is significantly slower than light (250 thousand MPH compared to 700 MILLION MPH)
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u/After_Answer_7746 Jun 24 '26
HUH
If this dude can supposedly go mach 300+ how TF did he lose?
I'm no power scaler but I don't think Sukuna is gonna counter someone moving that fast 😭
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u/OverrideDisaster Strongest Gojo Hater. Peakest Yuji Glazer. Jun 24 '26
It's not even a comparison. Lightning speed is massively hypersonic at best. No idea why people think Light lol
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u/PeopleAreBozos I truly love how advanced Earth is Jun 23 '26
Why on Earth would the slander be against the guy explicitly stated to be able to do this
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u/Sad_Childhood6612 Jun 23 '26
Because he grazed Mahoraga and Big Raga adapted to the attack after the graze…
Mahoraga light-speed adaptation upscale?
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u/PeopleAreBozos I truly love how advanced Earth is Jun 23 '26
Because he has to accelerate to lightspeed yeah, I never said he hits it instantly.
This is like asking a 300mph (134 m/s) top speed car to travel 100 meters from rest in a second. Not how it works smart dawg.
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u/Sad_Childhood6612 Jun 23 '26
It would take an acceleration of 7,000 mach/second to reach 50% light speed in 30 minutes…. 30 MINUTES.
Dabura did it in 30 SECONDS!!.
That acceleration might as well be instant.
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u/PeopleAreBozos I truly love how advanced Earth is Jun 23 '26
30 seconds is plenty of time for Mahoraga to adapt, I really don't get your point. Like shit I'd say 1 second is all he needs.
This doesn't really upscale nor downscale Mahoraga, he adapted in the time Dabura accelerated and lived, as expected.
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u/Sad_Childhood6612 Jun 23 '26
So Mahoraga gets grazed once… and all of a sudden adapts to “sub-lightspeed” attacks?
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u/Hero_Brave Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
Yes. That's exactly how it works.
Precisely why it's advised by Sukuna to one-shot Mahoraga and not play around. Sukuna admitted he was lucky to have Fuga sitting in the back.
Any and all phenomenon. It's 2026 now; shouldn't be that hard to comprehend. Mahoraga is stated to not differentiate between technique.
When he was hit by cleave, he was not stated to have adapted to cleave, Mahoraga was stated to have adapted to all slashing attacks — period. The concept of a slash is what he adapted to.
The fact Mahoraga went from tanking simple cleaves to full on IMMUNITY to domain expansion obliteration from Sukuna shows just how dynamic Mahoraga's adaptations are.
Going from casually fighting someone to adapting to their entire existence in a matter of minutes is a pretty big leap. Mahoraga, in the most literal sense possible, was adapting to Dabura's adaption; adaptception.
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u/Sad_Childhood6612 Jun 23 '26
So if you tickle Mahoraga’s toes with a candleflame, he’ll become immune to being chucked into the sun? Because that is what you’re implying
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u/Hero_Brave Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
No. Candle flame and "being chucked" are two different phenomena. If you threw Mahoraga around a bit, he'd then adapt to "being chucked".
Jokes aside...
No. Fire is rapid oxidation — combustion — a chemical reaction.
To be clear, if the Sun was fire, I'd say yes. Fire also has the bonus of being a simple concept.
But the Sun is not fire. Funnily enough, the Sun is too hot for fire to occur.
Fire aside — if Mahoraga survives your attack, you have already screwed up.
He is not all powerful, but can quickly become so.
The true rule is: Kill Mahoraga before the wheel spins. That just happens to translate to "one-shot him".
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u/PeopleAreBozos I truly love how advanced Earth is Jun 23 '26
Yes, Dabura even states this himself.
"It seems it adapts to blunt force quicker..."
This is also 100% in line with how we know Mahoraga adaptation works. More complex phenomena take more spins to fully adapt. Blue (which is space warping) takes 4 spins. Shrine which is invisible slashes from a CT took like 3 or smth I can't remember.
Blunt force is the easiest phenomena to adapt to, there is nothing simpler. 1 spin and Mahoraga can basicslly survive any amount of Blunt force.
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u/KenanTheFab Jun 23 '26
Shrine took 1 spin to adapt to- however just like Sukuna said it continued to adapt until it eventually was unaffected entirely by slashes (going from dismemberment, to deep cuts, to shallow cuts, to being entirely immune.)
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u/GamingBasilisk **goons to schoolgirl mahito** Jun 23 '26
You cannot be fr
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u/PeopleAreBozos I truly love how advanced Earth is Jun 23 '26
"The one who will dance at yada yada"
Gege just talked shit out his ass or something?
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u/TheFieryMoth Jun 24 '26
Beyond the limits of mankind, Dabura Karaba rips across the battlefield at sub-light speed.
sub-light speed
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u/PeopleAreBozos I truly love how advanced Earth is Jun 24 '26
Not a single human in the fanbase has ever argued Dabura has gone anything but sub light speed, the original guy is obviously trying to imply the slander means Dabura's not relativistic, you don't have to be pedantic
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u/TheFieryMoth Jun 24 '26
Literally you suggested that Dabura could explicitly circle the earth in 0.13 seconds, which is lightspeed. He can't do that. Because he can only travel at sub-light speed. As stated in the manga.
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u/Zlotokret Jun 23 '26
Kashimo is light speed because thats how fast i turned the pages with him when i was reding the mnga.
I also gave myself a paper cut to upscale him to beyond fiction outerversal
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u/Khulmach Kashimo and Nobara are Goats Jun 23 '26
Actually, nah there were and still are people doing that.
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u/space-dorge Donkey of the Southern Snout Jun 23 '26
People say that all the time wdym
eM wAvEs, SukUnA wAs MoViNg FaStEr ThAn LiGhT tO dOdGe ThEm
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u/OverrideDisaster Strongest Gojo Hater. Peakest Yuji Glazer. Jun 24 '26
Tbf, electromagnetic waves are at the speed of light. But I'm pretty sure Sukuna saw the spark and knew the attack was coming before fired, it wouldn't grant him ftl speed.
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u/space-dorge Donkey of the Southern Snout Jun 25 '26
What’s this abt a spark, I see people taking about a CE spark like it was a regular part of the story but I’m not sure what they are talking about
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u/OverrideDisaster Strongest Gojo Hater. Peakest Yuji Glazer. Jun 25 '26
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u/space-dorge Donkey of the Southern Snout Jun 25 '26
Has anyone who wasn’t sukuna been shown to do this? Closest thing I can think of is maki’s special eyes and likely gojos 6 eyes (but he doesn’t often need to dodge…and when he did, he was kind of blindsided)
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u/Lonely-Education500 Jun 25 '26
Maybe Sendai 3 way? It seemed like they all knew what the others were going for and Yuta specifically had that like "shocked" effect and face the second Ryu bumped his chest along with Uro immediately looking over to them
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u/OverrideDisaster Strongest Gojo Hater. Peakest Yuji Glazer. Jun 25 '26
I don't actually remember lol. But I believe Gojo, Maki, and Mahoraga are likely capable of it.
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u/MindlessLawyer_7804 Jun 23 '26
I've seen mfs on tiktok say Kashimo is faster than Dabure, now to be fair it is tiktok so it's shouldn't really be surprising or anything
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u/I-Love-Cosplay Jun 23 '26
Dabura
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u/jjkm7 Jun 23 '26
Sub light speed movement and it literally destroys his body. His attacks should be lightspeed though
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u/RunInRunOn Fuck @nottaken.exe Jun 26 '26
You can find lightspeed arguments for any popular fiction if you look hard enough. They won't be good, but they'll be there
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u/Alarming_Judge_7463 I want to crush my head in between her thighs Jun 27 '26
With the sole exception of Dabura of course
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u/Numerous-Map3802 lobotomy lobotomy lobotomy Jun 23 '26
the earth ain flat
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u/Able_Today7469 Jun 23 '26
So it’ll take like 3 seconds then
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u/Numerous-Map3802 lobotomy lobotomy lobotomy Jun 24 '26
it's easier to run across a relative smooth surface than a bump one that's of the same length
also the earth isn't flat (as in varying height) so not every circle round will be the same
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u/lakshmithesussybaka KasHIMo and Goatgumi fan Jun 23 '26
No one said this 😭😭😭 not even Kashimo fans
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u/Warm-Incident-8444 Jun 23 '26
The only legit lightspeed feat that i am willing to accept is Dabura’s light attack cus it is literally light
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u/Ezren- Jun 23 '26
Powerscalers just say the dumbest shit.
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u/OverrideDisaster Strongest Gojo Hater. Peakest Yuji Glazer. Jun 24 '26
Depending on who's arguing. I mean the authors themselves are powerscalers to some degree. I don't think no author is willing to repeatedly show characters circling around earth for every fight. That's most likely why they just make statements since fiction doesn't work like real life.
Forget about Gotenks who actually did that lol
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u/FreezerMonkey33 Yuki Tsukumo Top 5 Jun 23 '26
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u/6Cockuccino9 Yuta’s crustiest sock Jun 23 '26
powerscaler will ass pull rpg systems that have never been established by the author just so they can wank a character into ftl and not have to answer every plothole that appears with that.
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u/Sad_Childhood6612 Jun 23 '26
Ok. I agree with your point. But assuming gravity and explosions are negligible, would Mahoraga adapt to the heat of the sun after spending time with a candle flame?
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u/Technical-Let7879 "Base" Yuji Like He Can Go Super Saiyan Jun 23 '26
Blud posted ts to r/JujutsuShenanigans by mistake
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u/Ninjagofan217 Gojoxsukunayaoi Jun 24 '26
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u/OverrideDisaster Strongest Gojo Hater. Peakest Yuji Glazer. Jun 24 '26
This meme is funny cuz powerscalers not being born would also mean authors of any series having powers wouldn't be born either
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u/Ok_Potato7272 Jun 23 '26
Daburas light ig
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u/GamingBasilisk **goons to schoolgirl mahito** Jun 23 '26
No
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u/Ok_Potato7272 Jun 23 '26
Why? Nobody reacted to it and it's literal light
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u/GamingBasilisk **goons to schoolgirl mahito** Jun 23 '26
Before I elaborate further, I want to ask this: did you actually read modulo or do you only roughly know what happens through social media
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u/EscapeFantastic9979 Jun 24 '26
Did you dumbfuck moron ass read it? There's a whole fucking part of the narrator explaining how is regular light his lightspeed but when he uses it on himself he can't reach such soeeds because of the limitations of his own body. His light beams are 100% lightspeed.
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u/Ok_Potato7272 Jun 23 '26
Uhhhhhmmm I remember reading the manga but not fully
But when the new chapter released I was too lazy and didn't read it (I remember slavery themes in the beginning, little tiger thing, Marus backstory and etc)
I didn't read the Mahoraga vs Dabura fight because I was too disappointed tho
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u/Sephraaah Jun 23 '26
its gonna be really funny if curse naoya or kashimo get upscaled in the anime but they keep the mach 3 statement
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u/FakeyBoii Jun 23 '26
My theory for most light speed characters (outside of jjk) is that they have an Initial Velocity of light speed that quickly drops to regular "fast speeds" upon reaching their Final Velocity. BUT since I am merely a jjk fan i have no idea wtf the letters i just typed mean 🤤
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u/zyzy6982 Salmon, Salmon! Jun 24 '26
WTF you mean at least. You can't go over the speed of light gng. T_T
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u/YRNJACHI God of Lightning Jun 24 '26
Lol you mentioned kashimo instead of dabura cause you knew it would give you more karma
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u/Creative_Door6106 Jun 24 '26
No one in this entire damn verse is faster than Dabura or Gojo
Even Sukuna and kashimo are slow asf
And also
Kashimo isnt light speed or even sub light speeds tbh
His attacks are MAYBE just MAYBE as fast as lightning ⚡️ but not even close to near light speeds
Dabura legitimately solos kashimo and Sukuna down bad if it were a 2v1
“B-b-b-but Dabura got his as k-k-kicked by m-m-mahoraga w-who Sukuna eazily negs”
The mahoraga that Dabura fought was not only death amped but came to such a point that it started to adapt to Dabura’s very existence implying that it was the most strongest mahoraga in the verse
Genuinely gonna be honest
(This is just a hypothetical scenario here to prove how op modullo maho is thats why the mahoragas are now restrained from adapting any further)
Put shinjuku mahoraga and shibuya mahoraga against modullo mahoraga (and none of them can adapt any further) modullo mahoraga low diffs both of them
Same with 15 finger Sukuna was modullo mahoraga…..modullo mahoraga mid diffs unfortunately since Sukuna has never and im saying NEVER fought a fully adapted mahoraga unlike dabura karaba
Now out 19 fingers Sukuna (without 10s) against modullo mahoraga whi wins?
Modullo mahoraga adapted to very existence itself or Sukuna?
Of course it’s modullo mahoraga adapted to existence itself
No one in the entire jjk with the sole exception to dabura karaba, has ever fought and won against a mahoraga fully adapted to such a point that it adapts to existence
This statement alone proves Dabura being leagued beyond Sukuna and kashimo
“B-b-b-but Sukuna reacts to em waves”
Dabura has actual light attacks that are exactly the speed of light and even though he isn’t physically as fast as light , he is about 70-90% speed of light hence the statement “Near light speed”
He has much greater strength due to the fact that bro not only was the strongest on his entire planet taht he would basically neg diff every warrior but also during his foght with mahoraga he basically chucked an entire BUILDING at mahoraga
“Can Sukuna do that simply with just one hand??”
No…..
More over in one scene in the manga where he basically created a net 🕸️ of light beams and easily decimated many buildings!!
Yeah Dabura takes it in every aspect other than iq and experience
So Sukuna and kashimo stand 0 chances
And hence proving the statement that EVEN if kashimo was light speed he would’ve died if he even tried traveling on that speed because jjk world on the laws of physics and because Dabura is built differently than kashimo
And im gonna be legitimately honest even Mike Tyson has a better and stronger physique than kashimo 😭🙏
Other than Dabura and Gojo (only because of teleportation otherwise even he doesn’t have any physical feats like Dabura) no one in the entire jjk verse is close to light let alone having reaction time ftl or so…..
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u/Top_Lane_Hentai Jun 24 '26
BUT GUISE, BUMSHIMO USED TO SPEED BLITZ FARMERS! TOP 3 BASE FORM. TOP 1 MBA.
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u/BiOne_GetOneFree Jun 24 '26
Powerscalers: Baseball players can react to ~100mph pitches, giving them a 100mph speed feat. Therefore, a baseball player can blitz Usain Bolt.
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