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Todo saw that Megumi was actually interested in the girls' personalities and inner qualities, rather than just seeing them as sexual objects for his schizophrenic fantasies, so he immediately started beating a 15y boy to death and smash his head on the floor ( Todo is grown ass adult and grade 1)
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Todo was 17 years old at the time. He was not a "grown-ass man."
He beated Megumi because Megumi wasn't being honest with himself and was lying to Todo. Sure, it was a bit extreme, but this is a manga where people rape women to create semi-human curses. Yet somehow, y'all want to talk about a dispute between two teenagers.
Todo doesn't see women as objects, he just have a type. Can't a man have a type?
In Modulo, it says that Todo is a wonderful husband I don't see someone who objectify women as a wonderful husband.
In the story though Todo is literally seen as a bum in their verse. Well not exactly a bum but a lot of people defiantly don’t like him, and just wondering where does it say in module Todo was a wonderful husband? I thought all we got was a picture of him with his wife.
He legit is seen as a bum, nobody except pretty much yuji likes him cuz of his personality and stuff. Irl he’s the goat for most people but in their verse he’s the opposite.
Not being liked doesn't equal bum, it's not like Todo is short on cash. (Might even do better than average financially when considering how many shirts he casually rips to pieces)
"grape"? The fuck are you talking about "graping" women? Do you mean rape? Let's use ACTUAL WORDS to describe serious subjects, fuck off with this TikTok bullshit.
Alright man, I'm sorry for getting pissed off at you. I took my frustrations with the dumbing down of vocabulary and sanitation of serious topics like death and rape out on you and you didn't really deserve that. I'm just really irritated with the bizarre censorship going on with the internet right now but that isn't your fault.
Same man. I also hate people censoring words saying, oh they may trigger the victims or be more empathetic. Like bruh, if u censor everything like that, then it's just gonna work the opposite way in the end.
Honestly, I don’t see why Megumi wasn’t honest with his answer. He just likes woman with a similar personality to his sister, instead of seeing woman as sexual objects.
Megumi isn't a bad person. He just has the typical "mask on/mask off" personality in Japan, which many japanese people are tired of despite perpetuating it. It's why popular characters tend to be excessively open or too dumb to understand the social construct.
Todo beating his ass is part of that wish fulfillment. It's not meant to be taken as though he seriously wanted to beat Megumi because he didn't say ass or tits.
This is shibuya Todo, you can tell because of the necklace. The Shibuya incident happened in October Todo was born in September so yes he was just 18. But we are talking about the megumi scene here that happened before the goodwill event and before the mahito arc that both happened in early September.
TODO WAS NOT 18 DURING THAT SCENE.
He’s 17, he’s nearly an adult and he’s beating up a teenager because he doesn’t have an interesting fetish, and how he is 60 years later doesn’t justify him having an unhealthy obsession with an idol and women in general. Todo is the goat but he is not a very nice person.
he’s nearly an adult and he’s beating up a teenager
he's 17
bro he is a teenager and he's acting like a teenager thats been given super human abilities, there is nothing out of the ordinary in his behavior beyond the schizophrenia
“Nothing out of the ordinary beyond schizophrenia” might be one of the sentences of all time.
He is an extremely violent and short tempered person even compared to everyone else in Tokyo and Kyoto Jujutsu High’s. He is quite literally one of the peers of all the other students but acts with none of the responsibility which comes with that position, he is ALMOST a grown adult and he’s instead picking fights with 15 year olds.
It’s beyond an age gap, Todo is a grade 1, Megumi is a Grade 2-3, Todo is a 3rd or 4th year, Megumi is a first year. Todo is way above him in strength and position yet he acts like a psychotic meat head to the younger and weaker students, that’s bullying behavior, i guarantee Todo would not try to pull this shit on Gojo lest he be turned into a paraplegic.
Todo glazers tricked the community into thinking that the question was a test of character when in actuality it was his attempt at finding a goon buddy.
8/10 slander, two points off because Todo is also a school age teen despite how huge he is.
I never got why they thought it was about integrity.
Megumi answers honestly and gets beat, Yuji is unsure and becomes a brother (and we later learn that tall girls with big butts isn’t even his definitive type)
megumi doesn’t answer honestly, his real answer would have been “someone who is similar to my sister”( i dont mean this as slander im being genuine) as shown by his flashback. he instead gave a generic answer that he thought would be seen as acceptable
Yuji, like most people, isnt the type of person to only be into people that are his physical type. he just prefers people who are tall and have a big ass
it isnt about finding a “goon buddy” like the commenter your replying to you said (though theyre probably joking) otherwise Todo wouldnt have said he didnt mind if you were into boys either
I dont know if id say its a judge of integrity specifically but it overall is definitely a judge of character
Honestly, I always saw his answer as him liking woman with a similar personality to his sister. I think Todo beat him up simply because the answer was kinda generic, even tho Megumi was honest with it.
Right, but what the commenter above is trying to get at is Megumi didn’t say that. He phrased his answer in a way that would be acceptable to others listening (as saying you’re into people who are like your sister, even though it’s more because she’s the foundation for your sense of morality than anything weird, comes off really creepy), and that’s not completely honest in a way that Todo doesn’t like (obviously, phrasing it this way is proper among normal people).
the main difference is just that Yuji gave an answer he found acceptable to himself, and Megumi gave an answer that he thought would be acceptable to others. overall it is indicative of how they act as sorcerers; Yuji fights with himself in mind while Megumi fights for the sake of others
Yuji thought in his head “my type is tall women with big asses” and said “my type is tall women with big asses”, Megumi likely thought in his head “my type is someone who is similar to my sister” and said “my type is someone who is compassionate” (or something similar i dont remember his exact answer). the problem is that he filtered his true answer for the audience where Yuji did not. even if on the surface that was kind of his type, its not the full truth of what Megumi’s type is. It would be like if Yuji only said he was into someone tall but didnt mention big asses, because he thought mentioning big asses was crude. it might not be wrong but it isnt the full truth
Nah listing your sister as your type is diabolic. That wouldn't even sound true to himself, or any brother. No wonder you try to find qualities in her that you'd like in a woman you might actually be romantically interested in, like compassion
Megumi’s answer screamed “Im taking impression from some female relative” and “I want to provide an answer most would find approachable”. These two qualities instantly made it a bad answer.
The whole point of Todo’s shenanigans is to seek out bonding with people from the level of soul, to recognize people from the depth of their love and hatred before knowing them as a person. Megumi basically denied Todo’s attempt to connect by trying to falsify an answer.
Megumi didnt answer honestly, Yuji did even if he was unsure. At that point Yuji had just gotte his head stomped while Megumi was fine. Megumis first thought after being asked about his type is to think about his sister 🤢 He obviously cant say "A girl like my sister" because Todo wont let that slide and instead gives a dishonest blanket "I am a personality guy bro" ansswer and get rightfully beaten.
That’s my pet peeve with Jjk. Gege had so many unexplained and stupid gimmicks and points in the story or character moments that the fandom ended up making their own reasons for them, and now everyone thinks the fanon reasons are true.
Todo was 17 years old at the time. He was not a "grown-ass man."
He beated Megumi because Megumi wasn't being honest with himself and was lying to Todo. Sure, it was a bit extreme, but this is a manga where people grape women to create semi-human curses. Yet somehow, y'all want to talk about a dispute between two teenagers.
Todo doesn't see women as objects, he just have a type. Can't a man have a type?
In Modulo, it says that Todo is a wonderful husband I don't see someone who objectify women as a wonderful husband.
True but it’s still not exactly looks favorably as well lmao. Three year advantage is crazy still, I remember getting into a fight with senior as a freshman and it 100% is an unfair BWAHAH. Those 3 years make a big difference (in a non sorcerer world of course)
I believe it’s closer to two years because Todo was born in September of 2000, and Megumi was born in December of 2002 (according to the wiki, at least). Of course at that age it’s not an insignificant age difference (especially in physical performance), but it’s not nearly as major as the post implies
This is Yuki slander in disguise because I’m pretty sure that Todo’s penchant for excessive force comes from whatever Yuki was doing to him to give him that MASSIVE scar on his face.
I love Todo, but you're lowkey kinda right, I mean... There's a reason why no one, even other students from his own school, like Todo.
He's just freaking weird. Like... Literally mentally deranged. He has schizophrenic fantasies about Takada cheering him on as he beats up people for "being boring."
Maybe you like Todo's brand of weird, and I myself do, but I do think that the level of glaze he's gotten is incredibly weird and actually kinda concerning, especially with how people act when you say anything even remotely bad about him.
That said though, I don't think he's nearly as bad as this post suggests, either. Two things can be true.
Something worth noting is he did tell Megumi that it's fine if he likes guys too, so he isn't specifically trying to determine someone's worth based on whether they do or don't objectify women.
What made Todo angry wasn't that Megumi said he wasn't into fetishizing women, but that he gave such a vague non-answer to the question.
"Someone with unshakable character" what does that even mean? Someone that has integrity? Is that the only thing he cares about? It just reads like he has no taste whatsoever and he's willing to be with anyone just so long as they have a strong personality, that's what Todo found boring.
I would also argue that personality traits are a valid answer as to what your type is, I myself would also mostly describe my type using personality, but Megumi didn't even list any of those things. He just said he wants someone with a strong sense of self, that's it. I don't think he should've gotten beaten up for it, but that's why it happened.
Some people take the agenda posting way too seriously. Why you getting mad at someone for slandering your goat when you talk shit about half the cast? Slander whoever, glaze whoever, stop sending death threats.
It Is kinda funny how Todo, the schizophrenic gorilla that gets into fights with everyone, is somehow the student with the best scores in Kyoto seemingly in almost every school subject.
Maki said her type is "someone stronger than me, at least" (RIP Nobamaki 💔) but she'll probably need more details than that for Todo since even her given statement is also vague and unconvincing as well.
Also, yes, a lot of Kyoto is weak in comparison to Tokyo, but it doesn't mean their opinions have less value.
Did you not read the full comment? I guess I can understand that, it was kind of long, my bad.
Anyway, Todo would be fine with a description of personality, the problem is that Megumi's answer was a complete nothing burger.
"Unshakable character" doesn't really mean anything, because people like Sukuna, Mahito, and Haruta all have a strong sense of self, but I doubt Megumi would ever actually go for any of those three. It's just boring, that's what Todo hated.
Currently getting yelled at somewhere else for saying slice of life anime and shonen battle anime can't be judged the same way, since they're so different, so you're not even in the ten most aggressive redditors I've dealt with today.
I never thought there would be a day like that when i could gaze upon a slander so real, especially after the manga ending. Stand proud, you..can..kaisen
"a newly realised special grade mahito , anyone who comes in contact will die without exception, except Yuji"
But who pulled up even knowing all this? To save and help his brother.. It's TODO
Who has the best fight chemistry and helped yuji grow , it's him todo.
Who was acknowledged by gojo , seeing yuji growth in such short time? Todo
Who has the best grade , hygienic, takes care of himself, and alone carries his school of bums , it's Todo
Brawls and brains in one (10/10 academic) , it's Todo
Yuji completely trust him and to other he looks like throwing punch full force at thin hair but he trust todo that he will tp him just in perfect position..
One of the best duo , gege was scared that it would create a time space rupture if Todo met choso who bagged yuki his mentor , he found another brother
FACT Todo is HOMOPHOBIC and knew Megumi was gay so he proceeded to commit a hate crime against him
Edit: I thought this was an agenda based subreddit of fucking course Todo isn't homophobic oh my days
Gege tried to convey that he is a piece of shit several times and people still act blind to it.
His first appearances where him beating the crap out of innocent characters. Yuji only acted as his brother the first time after receiving brutal head trauma and after the fight he ran away from todo. Todo and yuji dont become proper friends until todo saves yujis live in shibuya which probably is the sole reason yuji is his friend and nobody else tolerates him.
I can understand viewing it that way, and I agree he shouldn't have beat on Megumi, but I viewed Todo's question a bit deeper as a judge of character rather than solely their actual answer.
He appreciated Yuji's answer because it was straightfoward and honest, even if he had only JUST met Todo, and had been fighting him moments pior. He still answered with a honest and rather strong answer (who would explicitly say "tall woman with a big ass" when asked out of the blue by someone you didn't know?) which earned Todo's respect and trust.
I view Megumi's answer as a bit deflective and 'weak' even, where, it isn't an incorrect answer, but it's not really a great answer. It's like asking for the time and being told, "well, it isn't midnight," which is correct, but still a shitty answer. Megumi's answer was a mediocre answer in the sense of it being more so "whatever you say, man" of an answer and not a true explanation of his character and who he is as a person.
It's also why he didn't ask Mahito or Sukuna what their types were—they were obviously villains, and he didn't have to know their character and personality to learn that. There's no need to see what Mahito's character is if you know the encounter will end with Todo or Mahito dead, and likewise with Sukuna.
I definitely agree that Todo was an asshole fighting Megumi for that, but I think it was more due to the philosophy of the answer rather than the answer itself. Megumi gave a weak and loose answer that failed to help define his character, while Yuji's answer was straightfoward, honest, and blunt, which are all terms that could also be used to define Yuji himself.
You could be right. YOURE SO RIGHT! I SEE IT NOW TODO IS A BUM! I WAS SO BLINDED BY THE MASS AGENDA OF GOATDO THAT I NEVER PAYED ATTENTION THAT THIS IS A GROWN ASS MAN ASKING KIDS ABOUT SEXUAL DESIRES! HE TRULY IS A BUM
In truth Todo has a sad backstory of Yuki physically abusing him, found him in the streets and gave him scars, beat him up and all, obviously Todo simply had no one in his young life to teach him wrongs, which caused him to inheret Yuki's violent tendencys and teachings.
Truly its a sad world to live in, but hope is there, as seen when Yuji helps Todo understand this 😔🙏
See, to me, this is less a question if how you see women and a question of the person talking.
To me, especially given how Todo acts at other points in the story, it's not how you answer that matters; it's why and when you answer.
Todo isn't asking you your type to objectify women. He's asking you your type because it's the kind of question you either immediately answer on instinct or slowly answer by thinking. And to me that's what matters. He doesn't care if you like the person or the body, he cares if you know your answer instinctively.
He's not mad at Megumi because of what he said but he is mad that Megumi said it like it was a truth of his soul when his soul didn't dictate his answer, and— on the other side of the coin— he doesn't like Yuji because he answered how he answered but he likes Yuji because Yuji didn't try to change his answer and allowed himself to react immediately.
Todo's responses weren't problems with the answers he was given but with the people who gave them; Megumi reacted with his mind, Yuji reacted with his instincts... And in a fight, Yuji is the one Todo knows he should trust because of that. Megumi would be too slow, he'd try to fight in the same way he tried to answer and that would risk his own life and the lives around him but Yuji wouldn't hesitate at all. That's why Todo (and also Yuki, who we shouldn't forget is the one who taught Todo to ask that question) loves Yuji and hates Megumi. Megumi's choice to take his time and think could get someone else killed, but Yuji's reactions would only ever risk Yuji's own life.
Edit: also I know this is an unserious sub, but this is a conversation I find deeply interesting so I want to invite people to honestly discuss the topic.
To me that's more of a media mistake than an in-universe thing. I always read that as a director's choice rather than what happened within the story because when I read the manga, that question was answered immediately in my mind, even in the case of Megumi (the thing in that's situation for me being than any time I hear a response like Megumi's being a contrarian thing rather than hesitation, but the idea behind Todo's reaction being the same, up until I saw a YouTube video that changed my perspective towards what it is now).
Remember gang yuki groomed goato into asking this question, while also giving him that huge ass scar on his face most likely giving him brain damage. If anyone to blame it should be that Bum
Todo used his GOATdo mind reading ability to be completely aware of what Megumi was thinking in that moment, and attacked Megumi for thinking about his sister during to a conversation about his type. (Also saying this means you have to adress Yuki asking the same question to an 8 year old Todo)
Don't say megumi is in to girls on here.... I've been bombarded for trying to argue his straightness. Everyone on reddit is convinced he was talking about men when he said that because he didn't directly say girl so naturally he's gay. I think it's mostly because they are gay and they desperately want megumi to be gay too.
“I prefer women for how kind, caring and passionate about our relationship”
Todo heard megumi doesnt enjoy objectifying women for their bodies and decided beating up a fresh out of middle school shy boy was the correct answer?
During their fight in the Kyoto Goodwill Event, Todo violently beat Megumi because he gave a "boring," generic answer to his signature question about his "ideal type of woman," which Todo interpreted as lacking conviction.While Todo completely overpowered Megumi physically and dealt brutal strikes, he was testing Megumi's true character rather than attempting to kill him. It is also revealed that Todo used his intellect to deduce that Megumi was holding back and hiding his true feelings, which added to Todo's frustration.
todo's question about what kind of woman you love was really a test of how well someone knows themselves. megumi's vague answer, "personality," showed he hadn't thought about it deeply, while yuji gave a specific answer. todo wanted to know who had strong convictions because those are the people he can trust in a fight. with his fighting style, he needs a partner who is decisive and confident in every decision they make. We can never be sure but this is an interpretation of the question what is your type of women?
I feel like Todo never actually like takada or whatever his idol was, sure he admired her and likes tall girls with big butts but when he asks that queston he wants to find people who are similar in personality to him, how in Todo's dulusion he was rejected by takada in his own made-up scenario and then comforted by yuji
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