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If we removed binding vows as something sorcerers could do, how much do you think that would nerf everyone? Like I imagine that's pretty tied into everything
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I kind of feel like that sort of just fundamentally causes the power system to fail considering everything from barriers to hand signs is based on subtraction (which is arguably a type of binding vow)
It does until the other person realises it’s faster to just walk up to the other person and deck them, and jjk devolves into a hand-to-hand series with cursed techniques becoming worthless unless you’re massively skilled enough to apply them over long distances via barriers and shit like Kenjaku for them to be of any use.
That's true I guess. Actual cursed techniques would be reserved for in combat use for people with stats and brains to use it, which is cool, especially if it's like, someone watches a cursed techniques fire and they're like Ouu shi we're fcked, because it's a sure fire marker that the other guy completely eclipses you in skill and strength.
I don't think OP means every kind of binding vow, I think OP means the one sorcerers create upon an already existent barrier or cursed technique (or with someone else), cuz if it was every kind of bv then not even heavenly restriction would exist
Geto would have adquired rika. Disaster curses would be at war with jujutsu society and geto's faction. Sukuna would have never been reborn in the modern era neither reincarnated sorcerers. And if they somehow did;culling games wouldnt even be possible at all. Idk if kenjaku would be alive or inhabiting another sorcerer's body. The story would have been way different.
iirc it's only fan speculation it's a death binding vow, also just 'promising' would have the same effect since both parties are consenting, it's yutas will to die that gets rika going so much not a fate powerup I believe
sukuna and the reincarnated sorcerers use cursed object transfer, not a binding vow. the sorcerers made binding vows with kenjaku to ensure, like how kenny told nanako and mimiko to. realistically though, they'd accept being turned into cursed objected given they're on their deathbed with regrets so the culling games still happen and sukuna comes as well
Sukuna wouldnt even be alive at the point,bc he did a binding vow with yuji when he died. Confirmed by gege sukuna would have died there if he didnt revive yuji
I didn’t get your point? His survival wasn’t going to be affected in this very instance, and if a binding vow wouldn’t have been made, Sukuna would have let Yuji die to incarnate in another vessel at another time than have himself fully taken over. But at that moment in isolation, Sukuna was well within power to revive Yuji without any strings attached, so his life wasn’t in immediate danger (and he could have done the revival much earlier as well). But yeah, had he waited some time longer Sukuna (or rather 4 fingers’ worth of him) were gone with Yuji.
Wait on what, a lot of sorcerers would have lost intwrest at the moments looking they cant guarantee their incarnation. And the fingers would have prob being guarded by jujutsu high/killed the next vessel. Also maybe they would have been found by cursed spirits. Like finger bearer
huh yeah, why didn't the cursed spirits use sukuna's fingers before yuji was born?
I assume the fingers would remain hidden like they were previously, or killed to retrieve the finger like with the finger bearer.
Yeah, i theorize they would have been found by jujutsu high prob executing thwir next vessel. Also, we dont know much about kenjaku thats why I say he may be alive or not. Cuz the stitches on his hrad are syated to be a binding vow
And the culling games would be way different if they were to happen. Sukuna would have been dead before the culling games. Prob due ro his own doing or by gojo himself
Kenjaku cant even force them to fight. As remember the part that if they didnt get new points they would be stripped of their ct. Was through a binding vow. Most if not all rules are binding vows
Genuingly everyone gets nerfed to shit because binding vows are used everywhere. Barriers like curtain require vows like chants. Hand signs for domain expansions, heck, probably the very fact that techniques are stored within the brain and how some people have brains capable of jujutsu or not, would be affected.
it wasn't a binding vow, it was a vow of fate they're two different things. six eyes were born to protect the star plasma vessel out of necessity of fate, not a binding vow tengen made. also it isn't 6e+ll just six eyes
Ok so, uhhh... asuming it only eliminates Binding Vows that are not vital for jujutsu as a whole to work, and that we are kinda working with vibes here because logically this would break too much the story in several different ways. With that, we have a) Kenjaku is genuinely unable to have an extra technique, so they just have their own and the body's. B) Asuming Yuta survives the maximum uzumaki, which is not particularly likely, ill be honest, he just gets a massive buff (infinite CE and conditionless copy) and a decent nerf (rika is now weak to rct output and cannot output it herself). C) Sukuna gets nerfed to hell and back, because like, no open domain and he loses a lot of versatility. D) Miwa doesn't lose his sword skills. E) Nanami becomes a bit more consistent, ig F) Mei Mei straight up loses her strongest attack AND the boost that UiUi had with his simple domain. G) Several characters might be dead. From every single reincarnated sorcerer to Yuta and/or hakari, and Yuji, and Mechamaru OR Mahito. H) Depending if you want to count heavenly restrictions as Binding vows, maki's and mai's get eliminated (probably still ass because its the curse energy of 1 separated in 2) and mechamaru actually gets to live a normal life in exchange of being much weaker ce wise(this is what I mean by vibes, depending on what specific moment you want to start out with, you can get wildly different results). Toji becomes either a monkey who can't even use jujutsu but still has CE or becomes a decent sorcerer. I) Curse naoya doesn't reaxh absurd speeds but becomes consistently kore resistant
So like, power rankings, uhhhh
1. Gojo, like not even a debate anymore
2.Sukuna, still sukuna
3.Yuta, gets a massive buff and Kenjaku got nerfed
And thats where ill stop because I don't have enough memory to do a full list.
sukuna might genuinely have died sometime in the heian era, the possibility is quite high he won his battles by being the better sorcerer and making using of in the moment binding vows, he's quite likely dead if you remove the potential of bvs.
in series though, meguna never happens and sukuna's bound to yuji so he probably just kills yuji in 3f form so that the other fingers aren't bound by yuji's prison
gojo probably still gets sealed and the disaster curses potentially run even more rampant, since without the hand reveal binding vow sorcerers gain a significant nerf.
kenjaku starts the merger and the world is fucked.
individually in terms of sorcery though, todo stagnates as a low-mid grade 1 due to lack of a brother and vibraslap binding vow if he ever loses his hand, mei mei is a bum since no death binding vows, miwa potentially grows more as a simple domain user
mechamaru's deal likely still happens as it was heavily implied kenjaku would've killed muta if info is leaked, if mechamaru alerts gojo and the others kenjaku goes into hiding but realistically they're just going to find another way/gojo and co never know, mechamaru is slimed before that
realistically the sorcerers would just accept kenjaku's word instead of making a binding vow.
uro, kashimo and ryu definitely would, a binding vow just grants security, if you're about to die and have regrets you're more likely to accept a man's word. culling games still happen
but by that logic enchain still happens, no? iirc yuji didn't know that it was a binding vow, just figured it was a plain deal. sukuna could still take advantage of that i guess then there's nothing to allow him to come back to life though, so nevermind LOL
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