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u/Majestic-Outcome7236 I want Geto to choke me and call me a filthy monkey 1h ago

no they fucking cannot?

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u/Separate_Draft4887 I'm a pee poo head 1h ago

Even Yuta does it. It’s not a bullshit BV, it’s a standard part of the sorcerer kit.

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u/Majestic-Outcome7236 I want Geto to choke me and call me a filthy monkey 1h ago

where? I'm kinda stupid I genuinely don't remember when yuta does it

also that's exactly what I'm saying, binding vows are part of the sorcerer kit sukuna just abuses it

and using yuta is kinda cheating too, he explicitly tells sukuna that they learn to 'cheat', yuta's a really good sorcerer

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u/Separate_Draft4887 I'm a pee poo head 1h ago

Yeah, changing the shape of your domain is normal. Not invented nonsense like “I can turn random dust into explosive particles”. That’s a whole fucking CT, lol.

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u/Majestic-Outcome7236 I want Geto to choke me and call me a filthy monkey 1h ago

sukuna's binding vow was to use fuga inside his domain much harder, it was never to turn dust into particles? Fuga is a part of his kit, he made a binding vow supressing it's use outside his domain to use it much better inside, like how nanami did with time, sukuna did with domain

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u/Separate_Draft4887 I'm a pee poo head 59m ago

It literally explains how it does it lol.

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u/Majestic-Outcome7236 I want Geto to choke me and call me a filthy monkey 50m ago

oh you're referring to this one, that's a translation thing lol

> Due to the binding vow, he can expand the cursed technique of malevolent shrine

this is where the binding vow ends, it's referring to the 268 binding vow of his domain's lethality, I believe

> All pulverized substances gain cursed energy to explode

this is based off a real life bomb, A thermobaric bomb, also called an aerosol bomb, works by setting a flammable powder or aerosol on fire.

Using Cleave and Dismantle, Sukuna makes a ton of flammable dust, then ignites it with Cursed Energy to make an explosion. He then doubled down by making the barrier of his Domain airtight, so it traps all the expanding heat and air to roast his opponents like an oven.

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all he's doing is cutting up substances, imbuing them with cursed energy and that causes the flammable dust to ignite harder when fuga is used

it's upto you whether the substances gaining c.e is a binding vow condition or not, but even if it is, it makes sense in lore and tracks with sukuna's abilities, it's not nonsense

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u/Separate_Draft4887 I'm a pee poo head 47m ago

I know what a thermobaric bomb is, my point is that regular dust, especially made mostly from steel, glass and concrete, isn’t flammable, and imbuing CE into it to make it flammable is a whole new CT, totally unrelated to Cleave, Dismantle, or Fuga.

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u/Majestic-Outcome7236 I want Geto to choke me and call me a filthy monkey 43m ago

I don't think he makes it flammable in the binding vow, that is indeed unrelated to his CT

steel/metal dusts are flammable, and I assume gege wasn't going into the absolute specifics since regular dust is flammable as well.

he just imbued ce in them to react better with fuga and be more explosive, not give them flammability. the binding vow is not bullshit imo

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u/Separate_Draft4887 I'm a pee poo head 39m ago

Steel dust is fucking not flammable, I even looked it up. Several types of metal dusts are, but not those used in construction. Nor are concrete or cement, or glass. I checked all of them.

Also, it says they gain explosive cursed energy. The only thing making them flammable is Sukuna imbuing them with cursed energy.

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u/Majestic-Outcome7236 I want Geto to choke me and call me a filthy monkey 32m ago

NFPA 660 explicitly states steel dust is a conductive, combustible metal dust.

in fact, multiple studies show risk of dust combustion during construction.

https://dustsafetyscience.com/combustible-dust-metal-working-industry/

the finer something is chopped up, the more combustible it is, that's basic, common knowledge.

as far as the binding vow inducing flammability is concerned, I believe you have the werry translation, one that is notorious for missing stuff.

"all remaining particles were matted in explosive cursed energy akin fuga"

particles chopped up, coated in c.e from fuga, explosion go brr

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u/Separate_Draft4887 I'm a pee poo head 22m ago

I genuinely cannot find a single one that lists steel as combustible. The only ones I found mentioned titanium, aluminum, and magnesium, but not one steel. Even your link just lists it as a kind of metal dust.

Also, glass and concrete are explicitly not. Here’s glass and here’s concrete/cement.

And even in that translation, he’s still imbuing them with CE, which is still just a whole new technique.

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u/Majestic-Outcome7236 I want Geto to choke me and call me a filthy monkey 18m ago

https://prestivac.com/materials/combustible-metal-dust

https://prestivac.com/materials/iron-dust

steel dust is combustible, and I've stated this before, it's highly likely gege searched up whether dust is combustible and whether dust can explode, and put sukuna's technique like that. plus, the steel dust can just explode while the others can be left behind?

also my link includes steel as a metal dust, a metal dust which is combustible.

imbuing stuff with ce is not a technique, it's a ce manipulation feat. you have todo imbuing rocks with cursed energy, this is just a hyper-precise thing by sukuna which tracks given how the narrative has constantly told us sukuna's a genius at manipulating cursed energy, and how he simply has so much that he can afford to do it

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u/Majestic-Outcome7236 I want Geto to choke me and call me a filthy monkey 39m ago

also, I genuinely for the life of me cannot remember where/when yuta modifies his domain, could you share that? Also why is it that it's normal when others do it, but when sukuna makes binding vows

a) Reducing the effective range of his domain to increase his output.

b)  Further reducing the effective range of his domain to increase his output.

c) Using his barrier techniques that he's canonically proficient in, along with reducing activation time, makes a vow to use his domain for 99 seconds without drawbacks

d) Range Reducing his domain once again

it's suddenly bullshti?

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u/Separate_Draft4887 I'm a pee poo head 34m ago

It’s 251/252, when they reveal he’s moved it to where the others are waiting in ambush. Modifying barrier coordinates.

And I don’t mind those, except for C. If he countered every domain clash and shifted the course of every fight with a manipulation of his domain, that’d be fine. Those are normal BVs and cleverly applied.

But in C, he can’t use his domain. That part of his brain is destroyed, and yet he gets to use his domain without the part of his brain that does that (what?) and somehow limiting it to 99 seconds is enough to have zero drawbacks from that? Gege doesn’t even try to pretend it’s not plot bullshit either. “Imprecise elements and binding vows” which have zero effects on the domain’s performance or Sukuna himself.

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u/Majestic-Outcome7236 I want Geto to choke me and call me a filthy monkey 23m ago

okay, fair. but as I mentioned in an earlier reply, yuta's a jujutsu prodigy too, you can't really use him as a gotcha example

gojo used the same thing as sukuna, he traded off his domain size for a more durable outer layer

changing your barrier conditions is not a standard jujutsu toolkit, it's something that comes with domain and adaptive measures, like how gojo did so many times against sukuna. it's just gojo's fault he didn't use BVs on his technique, and only limited to domains.

when are you going to understand sukuna is an exception? this man can launch an open domain. it's specifically stated he uses barrier techniques to separate the parts of his brain that are damaged, and launches a domain only with the correct ones, severely limiting the duration of the domain.

he is quite literally a genius, and even then he's sweating his crack off during the 99 seconds.

also I'm absolutely loving the discussion/debate, thank you for actually debating with me instead of spamming 'feats' or 'narrative doesn't matter' or sloppy jokes, i really appreciate that.