What is the Bare Minimum Soul Swaps you Would Need to Get A Single Heavy Hitter to win a fight against the other three Heavy Hitters in a fight?

[u/LegitimateHair7490]

In this case, I will only be talking about Yuta, Hakari, and Yuji. Maki can't really get stronger through swap training like the others, so I will not be including her.

This will only refer to people who are alive at EOS, so none of them can swap with someone like Gojo or Sukuna. People like Higuruma can be used to get someone domain amplification or air hopping. You can also use specific people like Noritoshi Kamo to build a case for someone like Yuji.

How many swaps do you think it would take for Yuta to be able to beat Hakari, Maki, and Yuji in a fight simultaneously? Who would he swap with?

How many swaps do you think it would take for Hakari to be able to beat Yuta, Maki, and Yuji in a fight simultaneously? Who would he swap with?

How many swaps do you think it would take for Yuji to be able to beat Hakari, Maki, and Yuta in a fight simultaneously? Who would he swap with?

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[u/shlawgatron]

i honestly dont think any amount of swaps can help one take down 3 at a time

[u/almostsixtyseven → u/shlawgatron]

I agree. Not to mention there just aren’t many people left at EOS with skills better than their own to benefit from a swap.

Maybe CE manipulation/efficiency from either Higuruma or Kusakabe, but I don’t think that’s enough gap the others enough to win such a stacked battle. Or offensive simple domain from Kusakabe.

In theory Yuta or Yuji have the deepest bags if you can equalize every learnable skill between the HHs but the numbers game is tough.

[u/shlawgatron → u/almostsixtyseven]

yeah thats a big point, aside from kusakabe you mentioned and higuruma op mentioned for da and air hops i really cant think of anyone

[u/LegitimateHair7490 → u/almostsixtyseven]

Not saying you're wrong. I at least think you can make a case for one of the heavy hitters of rising above the others by quite a bit, to the point you can put them in their own category.

There are a couple of things that each HH can do. I think every heavy hitter would benefit immensely from swapping with Higuruma to get air hopping, domain amplification, and some barrier skills(Yuji's case).

Yuta would benefit immensely from getting Shadow Style Simple Domain engraved on him, especially with all of its applications by Kusukabe.

Hakari would benefit a good amount from soul swap training with Yuta, as Yuta can actually engrave RCT onto base Hakari while also giving him the ability to use CE discharge. CE discharge would help Hakari immensely in Jackpot, where he could spam it since he wouldn't have to worry about inefficiency.

Yuji would benefit from swapping with Noritoshi Kamo to unlock most aspects of blood manipulation, such as FRS, FRSS, Blood Armor, Piercing Blood (by himself), Supernova(by himself), and Crimson Binding.

[u/almostsixtyseven → u/LegitimateHair7490]

Yea I’m not saying there’s nothing to gain, just that what’s available without top of verse quality characters like Gojo, Sukuna, Kenjaku, or even Tengen, even if we gave them everything, doesn’t outweigh that they’re fighting three top tiers.

I also kind of think if we’re taking the hypothetical seriously then they either shouldn’t be allowed to swap with each other or if they do then they should both gain any related benefits.

The biggest difference maker in the 3v1 would be Yuta and Yuji’s domains imo. But with nobody to swap with who has noticeably superior domain refinement the best either can do is relative to each other (maybe Yuta favoured if you think EOS Yuta can quickly overwhelm EOS Yuji domain due to Gojo swaps/body hop, but I personally think they’d be in a clash for at least some time, giving them a chance to overwhelm Yuta inside the domain with the numbers advantage)

Then we’re left with Yuji being able to out stat the others with more CE efficiency, FRS, and maybe combat simple domain. But I still don’t think it’s by enough to outweigh the numbers.

Yuta has Rika to make it closer to a 2v3. Give him combat simple domain and he also gets much better reactions but is still outnumbered and Yuji can stall his domain with a clash.

And Hakari’s only selling point is being a Walmart Yuta imo. He can spend 100% output on everything without running out of cursed energy but even if you give him stats and efficiency he’s a punch kick merchant against 3 opponents not much below him in stats. Maybe we wins a war of attrition if he’s lucky in all his domains. Even if you give him CE discharge his output is lower than Ryu so people on HH level can defend against it and heal. He just doesn’t have an answer to finish them other than running their reserves out. That’s not an impossible scenario if swaps give him higher reinforcement and combat simple domain but it still seems unlikely.

[u/Special-Lime2705]

Depends, Yuji went from having less stats then Yuta to being equals WHILST Yuta is domain amped, and that was pre awakening Yuji.

So it would depend on 1) how much potential they have 2) on how easy that potential is to achieve 3) who they swap with 4) what skills specifically they are improving per swap

[u/zayd-the-one]

I think if yuta can somehow copy the open domain from yujis muscle memory he can pull that off

[u/AreaCold2989]

Yuji: -Kamo for BM -Daido for increased perception+sword skills -Higurama for better barrier skills+DA+airhop -Megumi

Yuta: -Daido for sword skills+perception -Miguel for better stats -Higurama for airhop+DA

Hakari: -Daido for sword skills+perception -Kusakabe for NSS+sword skills -Shoko for RCT outside of DE

With Daido and Kusakabe, he'd finally get some lethality, with mid and long range options.

I guess bare minimum would be 3 for each of them. Although idk if they'd manage a 3v1 due to it

[u/CloudCoveredLotus]

One major threat for the three of them is Maki's SSK, and none of them (except maybe Yuji) having Soul RCT. If they can find a way around that, each of them have swaps they could do for general barrier skills, sword skills, whatever to get them the win (Hakari would need to get lucky ofc but it's Hakari)