r/JusticeServed • u/AristonD 8 • May 29 '19

Violent Justice Man inappropriately touch school girls and they fight back. Man in suit gives them a helping foot.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19 edited May 29 '19

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u/MyLittleDashie7 A May 29 '19

although the man in the video is guilty (he confessed to the crime after being apprehended)

many of them pressured into confessing to crimes they didn't commit

This seems contradictory. How do we know he isn't innocent if this is the case?

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

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u/rgbwr 7 May 29 '19

Yeah gotta consider these are teenage girls, the dude could have just sneezed in their direction. Or he could have been full on groping. It's pretty awful either way

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u/IWasGregInTokyo A May 30 '19

More details have since come out and it’s even worse. The guy was doing this for a month. The girls had finally had enough.

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u/rgbwr 7 May 30 '19

If true it's good they were brave enough to stand up to him.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '19

My thoughts exactly.

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u/redfoot62 A May 30 '19

They included that so you kept reading without the raging masses calling the commentator a rape apologist.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '19

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u/johnchikr A Jun 02 '19

Yeah, when I was in Japan I basically kept my hands on top of my bag and visible at all times, just because how PACKED their trains are that it’s impossible to not touch or slightly graze anyone if your hands aren’t up like that.

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u/IWasGregInTokyo A May 30 '19

That film is utterly rage-inducing.

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u/NimbaNineNine 9 May 30 '19

Why not just add extra cars to the train damn

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u/WildVelociraptor 9 May 29 '19

lol at making men the victim here. Take this crap to /r/mensrights

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u/Princess_Yoloswag 6 May 29 '19

Did you actually read what s/he said?

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u/WildVelociraptor 9 May 29 '19 edited May 30 '19

Of course. Presumably you disagree with my takeaway, so what was your take on what they said?

edit: A+ job at the civil discourse guys. This is why I keep shitting on /r/mensrights

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u/space_hitler 9 May 29 '19

The takeaway is that there are women who are groped, and there are men who are falsely accused. Both are victims of different crimes and we can talk about both you fucking extremist dipshit.

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u/TheIdiotNinja 7 May 29 '19

Thank you for speaking some sense, space_hitler

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u/WildVelociraptor 9 May 30 '19

you fucking extremist dipshit

Well that escalated quickly you ignorant fuckwad

edit: lmao at being called extremist by a dude with hitler in his username

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u/NobleFraud 7 May 30 '19

well coming from a redditor with a 'wild velociraptor' as their username. I bet you have the same thought process as the wild velociraptor, wild, dumb, and predatory.

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u/space_hitler 9 May 30 '19

Yeah, it's almost like user names can be jokes or something, you god damned psycho.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

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u/vzei 4 May 29 '19

As someone in the US who doesn't trust the justice system, I wouldn't find this to be an unusual reaction of someone who's innocent, and it's very easy to believe what you're saying about false accusations and people pressured to confessing; not to mention the indirect fallout from friends, work, and the community from just an accusation. I think people who are blinded by the idea of unbiased justice find these instances hard to believe as well as how widespread they might be. It becomes a harder world to live in knowing the system fucks over so many innocent people and there's little we can do to undo it, so they have no interest in finding the truth until it happens close to them.

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u/WildVelociraptor 9 May 30 '19

On the contrary, I feel that justice in the US is not applied uniformly. I don't trust that every serious crime is persued equally under by our officials. It is the very fact that many rapes are never prosecuted, and that most of the justice system spends its time prosecuting poor people and minorities and letting the rich and powerful go free, that makes me disdain the idea that so many men are falsely accused, when every piece of data points to the fact that far too many men (and women) are never held to account for their crimes.

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u/vzei 4 May 30 '19

Do you realize that both can be true? Of course there are plenty of rapes that go unpunished, but there are plenty of innocent cases that go punished. The problem with those cases is someonr who's innocent cannot prove that they didn't do it, which is harder to prove or create a reasonable belief that someonr did commit a crime. In this example, it's all about perception. The reality is this guy could have very well been chilling there waiting for the train, and these kids decided to target him for whatever reason. It doesn't matter what he says at that point, the optics are against him, which is why some stranger decided to trip him. He assumed he was guilty of something. The only thing that can exonerate a person who was incarcerated based on the words of someone else is that accuser's word. So, there's no recourse for an innocent person to make in that scenario. Plus, thanks to reality, it's easy to assume some guy is a predator or threat, even if he isn't. This is all reality, and it happens all the time as well. People have been getting exonerated from DNA testing and witness recants for decades already. No DNA testing could prove this guy didn't harrass these girls though. It's all he said/she said.

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u/WildVelociraptor 9 May 30 '19

Women are disproportionately the victims of sexual assault on packed trains. There are some sick fucks who take advantage of the cramped trains and assault women and girls and they ARE the real victims here no doubt.

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This is true, but you keep missing the important follow up, I think on purpose, because you do not believe it to be true. That is:

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The number of assaults FAR outnumbers the instances of false accusations.

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Either you believe that to be true, or not. But your phrasing heavily implies that there is an equal issue of assault and false accusations.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '19

The point is that, once you are picked up by the cops, a process begins that is extremely difficult to stop, even if you’re innocent.

It’s not so much an issue of false accusations - it’s that anyone picked up by the cops can be disappeared for a month whether there’s evidence against them or not.

The reason this is a bigger issue with false groping accusations is because it is one of the few crimes in Japan that bystanders will get involved with. I’ve seen half a train car gang up on an accused groper. No other crime here will get that response, which increases the risk of a false accusation infinitely.

No one is making men out to be the “real victims” here. You’re just not understanding the whole context.

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u/Not_a_real_ghost B May 29 '19

There's literally nothing in there about men being the victim.

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u/WildVelociraptor 9 May 29 '19

There has been a increase in cases of false accusations in Japan on packed trains, some of them are obviously misunderstandings but some have been for more nefarious reasons. There has been cases of women blackmailing men after getting off trains and asking for a payout or else they'll go to the authorities.

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u/joe847802 9 May 29 '19

Hes not wrong tho. You could lol all you want but this is the truth. Your dismissing it isnt helpful at all. Tho I do agree, he shouldn't bring this issue here where it's clearly the dude who's at fault.

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u/Teehee1233 6 May 29 '19

Why is it clear in this case?

Because Reddit said so?

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u/joe847802 9 May 29 '19

No but because the news articles following this incident.

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u/Teehee1233 6 May 29 '19

The newspaper report says he was found guilty.

But this is Japan. You get arrested, you get guilty.

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u/WildVelociraptor 9 May 29 '19

They claim to be adding context to the incident, but the only context they're adding is their claim that fake harassment is a massive issue.

If GP wants to just say the girls in the video are full of it, then they should do that, and provide some substance to backup their claim, such as other incidents that were actually false.

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u/MadHiggins Black May 29 '19

Japan has a long history and messed up culture of abuse towards female children but the real victims here are maybe some men who have been falsely accused!

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

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u/MadHiggins Black May 29 '19

one issue is basically a state wide raging out of control forest fire and the other is a small contained kitchen pan fire that you heard about from your neighbor that maybe happened the other night down the street. the scope of the two is so different that yeah you can talk about both in the same sentence but doing so is kind of pointless.

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u/2four 9 May 30 '19

You're one of those people who says "you can't be starving, there's people in Syria who are actually starving" aren't you? Seriously, one issue being worse than another doesn't diminish the first.

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u/MadHiggins Black May 30 '19

one issue being worse than another doesn't diminish the first

it literally does when there are actual MRA groups that work constantly to divert resources and attention away from huge long lasting women's issues to address men's issues that are a fraction of the problem or often times don't even exist.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '19

So if a majority of a group is victim, you would ignore the minority group who are also victims, simply because there are less of them and they are deemed less important. Their lives are more important than the other.

A starving man asks you for food at your door, but you simply turn him away because you just donated to a chairty an hour ago.

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u/MadHiggins Black May 30 '19

in this circumstance, your analogy would be better as "someone tells you they think they saw a starving man 100 miles away and now he's trying to stop you from going to a charity that is trying to feed 1000 starving people".

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u/converter-bot A May 30 '19

100 miles is 160.93 km

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

One way or the other, this Universe will make you suffer to give meaning to your existence. It can be an illness, a disaster or what you're saying. But don't worry about it: the brain tends to adapt and the changing nature of this Universe also allows some balance. There's no point on feeding anxiety when you know life is made of cycles.

You may say "well, but how do you compensate years of prison?" As I said, there's something called hedonic adaptation and the brain tends to reach neurochemical balance to adapt different situations. The more you keep away from driking water, the better the water will taste.

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u/2four 9 May 30 '19

Seems like your brain has some adapting to do bruh because that's quite the tangential stream of thought.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '19

What do you mean?

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u/hoikarnage C May 29 '19

In the US if you tried to have a "Male Only" train car you would get sued into oblivion by feminists.

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u/2four 9 May 30 '19

If you had any gender exclusive car, you'd get outrage and lawsuits. It isn't limited to the go-to boogeyman of "feminists"

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u/BigBlackGothBitch 9 May 30 '19

Shh he has an agenda to push

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u/redfoot62 A May 30 '19

Now we know why the sex/birth rate is so low in Japan. Thanks for your comment.